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Hurricane Katrina Live Thread, Part VIII
NOAA - NHC ^ | 29 August 2005 | NOAA - NHC

Posted on 08/29/2005 2:47:45 AM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: mware

streetcarcam is shaking


151 posted on 08/29/2005 3:47:39 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: mewzilla

Just got up...and saw Shep.

He sounds like this is going to be SO much less of a storm for NO than he thought yesterday...

Is that so? It would be amazing if so, because the storm looks pretty much the same as when I went to bed about 6 hours ago...


152 posted on 08/29/2005 3:47:40 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: DB

perhaps, but this is going to test that scenario described in detail yesterday here, repeated from Bastardi and all those modelers, about the western side of the eye pushing the lake into NO.


153 posted on 08/29/2005 3:47:45 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: tiredoflaundry

Re: Shep: "This way you can see his face. His face is his fortune! ;-)"

Yeah, unless a 2 by 4 makes a large tunnel between his eyes...


154 posted on 08/29/2005 3:47:47 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: kittymyrib

The imaging still shows a clean eye.

It is still Category 4.

Hardly over.

The thing has barely made landfall and everyone is celebrating...


155 posted on 08/29/2005 3:49:10 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: oceanview
its too early to tell right now.

Additionally, there could be delays in flooding and there will eventually be a large outflow from the Mississippi for a few days after. Flooding could also occur a long ways inland along the Mississippi. There will be flooding and local rescues everywhere this storm goes.

156 posted on 08/29/2005 3:49:41 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Txsleuth

I thought the same thing when I woke up the morning.
Not so.
We haven't heard from the step-dauther and her family of seven yet. Hoping it's because of the phone lines......I'm sure they are okay. They booked out of Gulfport yesterday at about 10:30.


157 posted on 08/29/2005 3:49:50 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: kittymyrib

It is 60 miles and 4 hours until the closest approach of the eye to NO proper. Even if it passes off to the east some, do NOT assume it is over. It is just barely hitting the coast now... look at the radar!


158 posted on 08/29/2005 3:50:02 AM PDT by muffaletaman
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To: benjaminjjones

can anyone figure whats jammed up against little tree in Streetcarcam? It sorta resembles a dog.


159 posted on 08/29/2005 3:50:07 AM PDT by I_dmc
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To: kittymyrib

Hurricanes change direction..NO is not out of the woods later as far as Lake Ponchatrain..and prayers for those in Mississipi..Cat 4 Hurricane is bad enough.


160 posted on 08/29/2005 3:50:40 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: DB
everyone is celebrating...

Not everyone, just Shep.

Damn, I have to get ready for work. This job really cuts into my day.

161 posted on 08/29/2005 3:51:04 AM PDT by Semper911 (Real estate is not real anymore.)
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To: DB
The thing has barely made landfall and everyone is celebrating...

I don't understand it either. I'm wondering where they are getting their info from.

162 posted on 08/29/2005 3:51:07 AM PDT by TomB ("The terrorist wraps himself in the world's grievances to cloak his true motives." - S. Rushdie)
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To: DB

Steve Keating just said things are starting to fall apart.
He's in NO....


163 posted on 08/29/2005 3:51:08 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: Txsleuth

"Just got up...and saw Shep.

He sounds like this is going to be SO much less of a storm for NO than he thought yesterday..."

Just got up too!

I hope he is right - and I hope it was all a bunch of doomsayers fed by all the people wanting to send the price of oil up.

Like someone posted earlier, if a seagull pops on an off shore rig, oil goes up 10%


164 posted on 08/29/2005 3:51:12 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: kittymyrib

"I'm afraid this will go down as ANOTHER example of media over-kill, which someday will lead to disaster."

Yes, God forbid people get out of harms way. Lets have them all sit in their homes next time and maybe they'll really get hit...ARE YOU KIDDING? I'm glad they evacuated and besides it's a VERY GOOD DRILL for the people of LA state if this hurricane doesn't cause mega damage. Now they'll see the pros and cons for future evacuate plans.


165 posted on 08/29/2005 3:51:41 AM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: kittymyrib
NO has dodged this bullet.

I'm not so sure about that. The eye is still about 60-70 miles from the mouth of Lake Ponchatrain. There's still the storm surge issue.

166 posted on 08/29/2005 3:51:58 AM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: I_dmc
can anyone figure whats jammed up against little tree in Streetcarcam? It sorta resembles a dog.

Think it was a hurricane badger

167 posted on 08/29/2005 3:52:03 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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To: NautiNurse

Storms in the storm!

http://www.wunderground.com/radar/radblast.asp?num=6&scale=1&delay=15&noclutter=1&showstorms=31&showlabels=1&ID=LIX&lat=0&lon=0&label=you&type=N0R&zoommode=pan&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&prevzoom=zoom

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168 posted on 08/29/2005 3:52:20 AM PDT by Tigen (Live in peace or rest in peace!)
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To: bobdsmith

ROFL


169 posted on 08/29/2005 3:52:50 AM PDT by I_dmc
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To: oceanview
In other words, if this storm does not flood NO, then the odds of any storm having the exact conditions needed to flood NO, is almost zero.

This statement is valid for today.

Unfortunately, the Mississippi River is not static, and brings more silt every day, so eventually the storm needed to breach the levees will be much smaller than what would be required today.

170 posted on 08/29/2005 3:53:04 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Txsleuth

Western side is weakened slightly, storm's proabably going a bit more to the east of NO, and it's trucking along about twice as fast now as it was last night. That's really important because there's less time for it to sit and spin and dump. Less rain and wind damage. Still possibly horrific, but not catastrophic. Here's hoping :)


171 posted on 08/29/2005 3:53:08 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Tigen

Phil Keating (what is his name??)
IS dodging plexiglass and other debris and trying to show trees that are bending over!
THEY NEED TO GET OUT OF HARM'S WAY!


172 posted on 08/29/2005 3:53:41 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: Semper911
Shep is acting like an idiot!

BTW I'll trade you my quadcane for your job...
173 posted on 08/29/2005 3:53:52 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: I_dmc

image sure seems to play tricks on me


174 posted on 08/29/2005 3:53:56 AM PDT by I_dmc
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To: mabelkitty

Oh, my goodness MK, I am sorry, you must be worried to death...saying a pray as I type for your family...do you know where they were headed?


175 posted on 08/29/2005 3:53:59 AM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: mabelkitty

Yes, things are falling apart.


176 posted on 08/29/2005 3:54:03 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (God Save New Orleans)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
The Weather Channel agrees with the 45 mile distance, looks like it to me. FNC is still reporting about 90 miles.
177 posted on 08/29/2005 3:54:17 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: NautiNurse

Hiya. Shep's been saying that all the hype hasn't panned out. Sounds good but is this only because the worst hasn't reached him or has Katrina fallen apart?


178 posted on 08/29/2005 3:54:29 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Cindy Sheehan: "All You Are Saying Is Give APPEASEMENT A Chance!")
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To: oceanview

The best news for NO is that the storm is moving north quickly. That reduces the west side wind speed by it's forward speed reducing the surge of water from the lake into NO.


179 posted on 08/29/2005 3:54:43 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: sonofatpatcher2

The nola cam is still up. It is wet there but I see no flooding and the electricity is still on.


180 posted on 08/29/2005 3:54:54 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
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To: MEG33

FNC: Back up generator working at Superdome but not enough for air conditioning. It only powers emergency lights.


181 posted on 08/29/2005 3:55:04 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: NautiNurse

are you getting ANY sleep?


182 posted on 08/29/2005 3:55:27 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: I_dmc
can anyone figure whats jammed up against little tree in Streetcarcam? It sorta resembles a dog.

It's not making any noise; I think it must be a mime.

183 posted on 08/29/2005 3:55:39 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: mewzilla

Can anyone read these charts of water levels .. http://waterdata.usgs.gov/la/nwis/current?county_cd=22051&county_cd=22071&county_cd=22075&county_cd=22103&index_pmcode_STATION_NM=1&index_pmcode_DATETIME=2&index_pmcode_00065=3&index_pmcode_00060=4&index_pmcode_MEAN=&index_pmcode_MEDIAN=&index_pmcode_00010=&index_pmcode_00020=&index_pmcode_00025=&index_pmcode_00035=&index_pmcode_00036=&index_pmcode_00054=&index_pmcode_00055=&index_pmcode_00076=&index_pmcode_00095=&index_pmcode_00300=&index_pmcode_00400=&index_pmcode_00480=&index_pmcode_00631=&index_pmcode_32234=&index_pmcode_61728=&index_pmcode_63160=&index_pmcode_70969=&index_pmcode_72019=&index_pmcode_72020=&index_pmcode_99900=&index_pmcode_99901=&index_pmcode_00045=&format=station_list&sort_key=site_no&group_key=NONE&sitefile_output_format=html_table&column_name=agency_cd&column_name=site_no&column_name=station_nm&column_name=lat_va&column_name=long_va&column_name=state_cd&column_name=county_cd&column_name=alt_va&column_name=huc_cd&sort_key_2=site_no&html_table_group_key=NONE&rdb_compression=file&list_of_search_criteria=county_cd%2Crealtime_parameter_selection


184 posted on 08/29/2005 3:56:26 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: SunnySide

yes, but there is also a flipside to that argument. if this storm doesn't flood NO, that tells us the odds of any storm doing it, is very low, because the convergence of a set of perfect conditions, is almost unattainable. and add to that they "they hyped it" mantra that will be leveled against the weather service and hurricane center - they will never be able to convince people to evacuate NO again.


185 posted on 08/29/2005 3:56:42 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Peach

It must be miserable inside!


186 posted on 08/29/2005 3:56:47 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: DB

I do not understand how anyone can say a bullet has been dodged. It is going to rain for a week and all that water will be coming down the Mississippi, wnon't it?


187 posted on 08/29/2005 3:57:40 AM PDT by don-o (Don't be a Freeploader. Do the right thing and become a Monthly Donor!)
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To: SunnySide; kittymyrib
SS, I think she was trying to say that IF a Storm of this magnitude doesn't do the predicted damage, that in the future people won't evacuate causing massive loss of life.

She's right, ya know.

sw

188 posted on 08/29/2005 3:59:04 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (God Save New Orleans)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Shep has his safety cap on backwards like the cool dude he is...

Now what would OSHA say about all this?!

189 posted on 08/29/2005 3:59:55 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: spectre
FNC earlier mentioned the New Orleans Saints, they have a home game with the Giants on week two, September 18th. Guess if the Dome is unavailable, they could play at Dallas as the Cowboys play the Deadskins on the following Monday night...
190 posted on 08/29/2005 4:00:06 AM PDT by sonofatpatcher2 (Texas, Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: I_dmc
jammed up against little tree in Streetcarcam?

My picture's really dark, and I think it's mostly water drops on the lens. All I can see is the traffic lights swinging like crazy in at the intersection of Charles and Napoleon Aves.

I saw a lot of violent shadows moving just now and it went blank.

191 posted on 08/29/2005 4:00:15 AM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: NautiNurse

Just got up. Raining here with a minimal amount of wind. Still have electricity - Yay!


192 posted on 08/29/2005 4:00:19 AM PDT by trillabodilla (just north of Baton Rouge, Louisiana)
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To: MEG33

And, the next time people will not go to a shelter.


193 posted on 08/29/2005 4:00:39 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: Txsleuth

No.
Last year they came up here and made it in 18 hours.
We think they may not have been able to come this way due to traffic (or time), so may have gone to stay with her mother who booked out of town much earlier.


194 posted on 08/29/2005 4:01:00 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: sonofatpatcher2
Football must go on!!

sw

195 posted on 08/29/2005 4:01:04 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (God Save New Orleans)
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To: MEG33

Shep says glass is breaking in the French Quarter. Idiot is outside.


196 posted on 08/29/2005 4:01:17 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: All

Shep's on!


197 posted on 08/29/2005 4:01:34 AM PDT by itsinthebag
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To: Peach

Is the power out at the superdome?


198 posted on 08/29/2005 4:01:47 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Cindy Sheehan: "All You Are Saying Is Give APPEASEMENT A Chance!")
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To: newzjunkey

On generator. No cooling. Currently...


199 posted on 08/29/2005 4:02:25 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: NautiNurse; Howlin
Thank you, NautiNurse.

Been up for a while listening to radio. Cat 4, slightly east of NO. Praying, praying, praying for those in LA.

Governor Easley, NC has just opened 4 shelters to help house evacuees post-storm.

200 posted on 08/29/2005 4:02:29 AM PDT by Alia
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