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Sharpton Evades Police for 9 Miles
NewsMax ^ | 8/29/05 | AP

Posted on 08/29/2005 6:16:24 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: doug from upland

Your song was great, as usual. I don't know how you come up with this stuff so fast!

I remember that Beep Beep song from when I was a kid!


151 posted on 08/29/2005 9:02:00 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: Black Tooth
The driver is responsible for not pulling over, not the passengers.

Well, that's not exactly true..the Right Rev should have ordered the driver to stop immediately.
I would like to have been inside that limo and heard the conversation.

152 posted on 08/29/2005 9:09:35 PM PDT by concretebob (Give a man a fish, etc..Teach him to use the internet, and he won't bother you for weeks.)
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To: atomic conspiracy
OK. I'm just trying to fill in the pieces. This is what I imagine occurred earlier in Cindy's motel room in Crawford:


Al: Oh no! I have to go! (Looking at his watch).
Cindy: Al! Al! Don't go yet! (She blows in his ear).
Al: I have to catch a plane!
Cindy: Al, won't you stay ten more minutes for meeeeeeeee?
Al: Cindy! Cindy! I'm going to be late!
Cindy: Just think, you'll be able to tell your grandchildren that you knew Casey Sheehan's mom.
Al: In that case, I'll stay ten more minutes. . .

Twenty minutes pass . . .

Al: Cindy! Cindy! I'm going to be late!
Cindy: You'll be able to tell your . . . .
153 posted on 08/29/2005 9:11:05 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: DaveTesla
Today's Arizona Repulsive says Jarret (running for Phoenix Council) is 18 years old. The father (Deputies arrested Jarrett Barton Maupin, 43,) I think is the one arrested in Crawford. Both Father and son have a show on Err America Sunday afternoon.
154 posted on 08/29/2005 9:16:00 PM PDT by p23185
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To: sit-rep

Poor Al was probably just wanting to get to a hot shower after hugging Taliban Cindy.


155 posted on 08/29/2005 9:17:22 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Why are we "freepers"? Shouldn't we be "freereps"? Are we dyslexic?)
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To: Larry Lucido

Al: "Cindy! Cindy! I'm going to be late!"

Heh heh.


156 posted on 08/29/2005 9:20:42 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: windcliff
I wonder how many months he "the driver" will have to work at Err America to pay his fine of $1,000.

Will the voters of Phoenix be DUmb enough to elect him to the city council?

157 posted on 08/29/2005 9:39:28 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: Black Tooth
Hi Black Tooth-

The simple fact-of-the-matter is that Reverend Al Sharpton is likely going to walk away from this speeding incident unscathed. I have no idea why fellow FReepers are desperately clinging to the notion that the driver was "following orders" and that charges will stick to Fat Al or anyone else in the car.

If a bunch of college kids riding in a sportscar use "peer pressure" to convince the driver to speed, do they ALL go to jail when pulled over by a state trooper? The answer is clearly, "No." The driver (in both cases) is the only one punished and the passengers are free to go.

~ Blue Jays ~

158 posted on 08/29/2005 9:43:04 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: I Drive Too Fast

The Rev. Al Sharpton's travel plans through Ellis County were interrupted Sunday afternoon after sheriff's deputies took his driver into custody.

"Sgt. Jeremy Osteen clocked the vehicle going 110 in a 65 mph zone," sheriff's Lt. Danny Williams said of the incident, which began at about 2 p.m. near the Forreston rest area on Interstate 35.

"At that point, Sgt. Osteen attempted to catch the vehicle, which continued at a high speed, weaving in and out of traffic," Williams said.

The chase continued for about nine miles to about the 400-mile marker, where Department of Public Safety troopers had set up, Williams said. "The troopers were waiting and were able to get in front of the vehicle and slow it down. The vehicle finally came to a stop at the 401-mile marker, which is at (U.S. Highway) 287 Business." The driver, Jarrett Barton Maupin, 43, of Phoenix, Ariz., was taken into custody without incident. He has since posted bonds totaling $1,000 on two charges: evading arrest/detention with a vehicle and reckless driving.

Maupin told the officers he was in a hurry trying to get Sharpton, a former New York senatorial candidate who vied for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004, and two other passengers to the airport. Sharpton had been in Crawford earlier in the day to visit with Cindy Sheehan, who lost a son in the war with Iraq. Sheehan has been leading a several weeks long protest near President George Bush's ranch.

The vehicle, a 2005 Lincoln, was impounded after deputies contacted its owner, a rental car company.

"Avis officials requested that we impound it," Williams said.

"They (the vehicle's other occupants) were offered a ride to the hotel across the highway, but they declined and said they would walk."

159 posted on 08/29/2005 9:46:25 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Blue Jays

Thanks, and I agree.


160 posted on 08/29/2005 9:50:51 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: evilC
LOL... wish we could've seen video of this! ;-D

So... did Al make his flight or not?

161 posted on 08/29/2005 9:56:16 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: i_dont_chat

I don't think J.B. Maupin II was the driver, since another site I found says he's only 18, and the JBM mentioned in the article was described as 43. The driver might be JBM II's father.


162 posted on 08/29/2005 9:57:39 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: Black Tooth
>>>You answered your own question. He's the "next" mouth piece and paid instigator. Sharpton and a few others hold the current title of pied pipers of violence and instigation. <<<<
Speaking of pied pipers of violence, on this afternoon's Randi Rhodes show on ERR America, she was bemoaning the fact that when she was in Crawford at Camp Cindy over the weekend, the neocons were ever so rude, vicious, and vile that she almost got sick. HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER LISTENED TO THIS MOST VILE SPOKESPERSON OF ERR AMERICA? Talk about hate America every day. She is the one that brought on the Secret Service for airing a skit shooting Bush. I listen for the entertainment because they really are imploding!
163 posted on 08/29/2005 10:04:09 PM PDT by p23185
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To: Black Tooth

I don't see that Al is to blame. This guy has plenty of attitude on his own.


164 posted on 08/29/2005 10:09:41 PM PDT by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: concretebob
The driver is responsible for not pulling over, not the passengers.

Well, that's not exactly true..the Right Rev should have ordered the driver to stop immediately.

Not quite. If the driver was an employee, on Sharpton's payroll, that may be true. But even if ordered, and the driver failed to stop, the driver would still be responsible, and arrested, as he was.

I would like to have been inside that limo and heard the conversation.

I can help you with that. I went something like this, "F the cops!"

165 posted on 08/29/2005 10:18:03 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: gogeo

Agree, that's what I said earlier. The driver is clearly no friend of law enforcement, and clearly proved this today.


166 posted on 08/29/2005 10:19:40 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: linn37
You have two options on I-35 ,ride in the right lane and get stuck there at 60 or ride in the left lane and go like hell with everyone else.

You could always pull over, take a few puffs of loco weed, then take a nap like Willie Nelson. Same part of I-35 I think.

I once got lucky, and tucked in behind a Deputies car just south of Dallas. The only time we slowed down to less than a 100 was in Austin. He had a steady following of about five cars all the way to San Antonio.

167 posted on 08/29/2005 10:23:04 PM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!avigable waters)
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To: Black Tooth
I can help you with that. I went something like this, "F the cops!"

You should be careful. ErnBatavia might think you into the cornfield...

168 posted on 08/29/2005 10:23:24 PM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (Previously known as Pookie Me, a Freeper since 7 September 1998. All who joined later are newbies!)
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To: wagglebee

Newsmax. I'm sure AP and Reuters pick it up directly. Ha!


169 posted on 08/29/2005 10:23:31 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: rock58seg

What were YOU driving? More worried about tires than the make of car, though.


170 posted on 08/29/2005 10:26:52 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Joann37
If I'm wrong, then why didn't Sharpton DEMAND that the guy stop if the police were in pursuit of the vehicle?

Bing, bing, bing!!! You get the prize!! Driver was hired (contracted) to do a job. If contractor violates the law, and the person letting the contract is aware of it (as Sharpton obviously was), and doesn't take corrective action, he too is at fault, and not merely an innocent bystander...

the infowarrior

171 posted on 08/29/2005 10:27:25 PM PDT by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Amos the Prophet; Black Tooth
A murder for hire finds the contractor and the contractee equally guilty.

Amos....non sequitur. Murder has NOTHING to do with Texas Motor Vehicle Laws. The driver is responsible for control of the car. Period. Unless Al has a gun to his head, he is responsible -and he alone- for the operation of the vehicle. If his employer asks him to do something illegal, the driver stops, quits the job, and can sue employer for damages in civil court.

You'd LIKE to think that the law holds Sharpton responsible for this, and morally, he really is,.... but LEGALLY the buck stops at the wreckless driver.

172 posted on 08/29/2005 10:31:45 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: wagglebee; Lijahsbubbe; aculeus; dighton
The car ignored deputies' attempts to stop it and continued speeding and weaving in and out of traffic before it was stopped, Williams said.

Did I miss it on FOX?

173 posted on 08/29/2005 10:34:31 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal (Wisely investing in quality tin foil wardrobe basics since 1998)
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To: Black Tooth; TheCrusader; Amos the Prophet
Most of these guys that travel, hire drivers and cars.

BT, you are correct. But the main reason rich folk have drivers (or cannot drive themselves) is specifically for liability. If they have an accident, and someone is killed, then the floodgates open in a civil trial. The primary way to protect themselves from liability is that they hire a professional driver.

Look. Forget about my 'splainin. Do you think the State Troopers are ignorant of Texas Traffic Law? Do you think they just arrested only the driver because they only had room for one more in jail? C'mon! If there was a criminal statute potentially violated by Rev Al, he'd be in jail. Since there was no wreck, and nobody injured but an affront to the People of Texas through the law, then there is no civil case to be brought, either.

174 posted on 08/29/2005 10:39:19 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: DaveTesla; wagglebee

Does not matter if he's an employee, son, husband or godfather of Al. The driver is ultimately responsible for control of the car. Short of a gun to your head, the driver is responsible for following traffic laws. Period.


175 posted on 08/29/2005 10:41:55 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: basil

You shoulda sent your Buddy from Hutto after him;)


176 posted on 08/29/2005 10:43:33 PM PDT by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking...)
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To: wagglebee

And this man was our presidential candidate? The highest representative of law and order in the land? What a joke.


177 posted on 08/29/2005 10:46:52 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: infowarrior; Joann37

Sorry, IW. As much as we'd LIKE al to be held responsible, he's got no criminal liability. And there are no injured parties to bring a civil suit. See #172-174, etc.


178 posted on 08/29/2005 10:50:07 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: rock58seg

IH-35, Lead, Follow or get the H&ll outta the way!


179 posted on 08/29/2005 10:52:10 PM PDT by ChefKeith ( If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking...)
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To: wagglebee
This guy is such a joke? Why does Sean Hannity even take this clown seriously... He is so pathedic... His driver should be locked up... Sharpton is not above the law...
180 posted on 08/29/2005 10:53:11 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: sam_paine

Agree. And double agree with the celebrity types and the liability issues. Even when armed escorts are required, they are usually contracted out. Thus freeing them of the liability.

Good post.


181 posted on 08/29/2005 10:53:11 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: sam_paine
Does not matter if he's an employee, son, husband or godfather of Al. The driver is ultimately responsible for control of the car. Short of a gun to your head, the driver is responsible for following traffic laws. Period.

And that's what I said earlier. It just didn't appear to be appreciated by some. Oh well.

Thanks for that.

182 posted on 08/29/2005 10:58:17 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: RobbyS

Almost new F-150, I think the guy was on cruise control cause we sort of sat on 100 or slightly less. If it had been any faster the chip/module would have started cutting out.


183 posted on 08/29/2005 10:59:05 PM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!avigable waters)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
Maybe your right. That was probably a little too explicit. But I'd bet it's right on the money though.
184 posted on 08/29/2005 11:02:59 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: sam_paine
"Does not matter if he's an employee"

Criminally no...
Unless the State can prove that AL conspired with the driver.

Civilly yes it does.

Especially with Al in the car.

Tacit permission is an acceptable in civil court.
Unless Al can prove that he tried to stop the driver.
185 posted on 08/29/2005 11:11:50 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: sam_paine
One thing I don't quite understand here.

In Los Angeles for instance, in a vehicle pursuit like this one, they conduct a high risk, felony stop tactics, once the vehicle is stopped, and all occupants of the vehicle are ordered out at *gun* point and interviewed to determine what crimes may be involved, or what involvement the passengers may have had in any crimes prior to the pursuit. I am sure you've seen it on television many times.

The only thing I can think of is once they realized sharpton was a passenger they didn't want to push it, due to obvious reasons. But I can tell you, if this happened in LA, all occupants would have been ordered out at gun point and been face down, once the vehicle stopped.

Bottom line is, like you said, the driver is ultimately responsible for operating the vehicle within the law. Period.

186 posted on 08/29/2005 11:18:20 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: DaveTesla
Civilly yes it does.

Hello? Who is the plaintiff? There is no criminal case against Al, and their are not two parties for a civil case. Next?

187 posted on 08/29/2005 11:18:35 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
You don't own a business do you?

I am held both civilly and even criminally liable if an employee is told to do something illegal.
It's called acts by employer in conspiracy.
Many employers go to jail for the acts of their employees.

Happens every day.
Not that I believe Al will be held accountable.
But he could.
188 posted on 08/29/2005 11:28:47 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla
Stay on track. Don't confuse this discussion with the fact that we'd BOTH like to see Al pay for SOMETHING...ANYTHING.

But we're almost there. You've attained a plateau, you agree that there's no criminal case against Al.

Now, don't get off on a tangent. Just name who the plaintiff would be for the civil case and I'm on board with you. (Hint: There isn't one, which is why he can't be held responsible in a civil suit either.)

189 posted on 08/29/2005 11:35:00 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine
Most traffic citations are civil.

When a driver or employee gets caught running a red light by a camera the state comes after the owner of the vehicle for the offense, the employer. In some states if a driver is drunk the state impounds the owners vehicle and assesses huge fines not only for the driver but the owner as well. If the owner fails to pay he is then arrested.
190 posted on 08/29/2005 11:35:16 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: sam_paine

I can wish can't I? :<)

Guess today is the day for me to be mean to Al and his communist cronies.


191 posted on 08/29/2005 11:37:15 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: sam_paine
If someone was injured like the Law Enforcement Officer
or another motorist during this escapade
it would be Al's A$$.
192 posted on 08/29/2005 11:40:10 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: wagglebee

Itwas a Lincoln!! A Lincoln Liberal!


193 posted on 08/29/2005 11:42:26 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (this country could use a good purge)
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To: sam_paine
Sorry, IW. As much as we'd LIKE al to be held responsible, he's got no criminal liability.

I suppose you're correct, and it would be difficult to prove legally at any rate. I would like to see him held accountable, but there are a lot of things in life, I'd like to see yet never will...

the infowarrior

194 posted on 08/29/2005 11:51:13 PM PDT by infowarrior (TANSTAAFL)
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To: DaveTesla

My daughter goes to the high school mentioned in the article, Saguaro. However, I think the driver was actually this guy's FATHER, since they listed the age as 47. He's a piece of work too, IMO.


195 posted on 08/30/2005 12:00:06 AM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: DaveTesla
It's a shame some brave soul didn't "take one for the team" and pull out in front of Al, to sue his pants off. But alas, no intercept was to be had! LOL! (I doubt I'd be brave enough to pull out in front of that much MASS going that fast!)
196 posted on 08/30/2005 12:24:08 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: IrishRainy
Good catch.
Jarrett Maupin Sr.
Also one of Al Sharpton's employees (NAN).

My mistake.


Jarrett Maupin Sr. at the NAN offices: "When you get
disrespected, all kinds of stuff that you've had to deal
with your whole life crops up."

Phoenix Times: Kid Sharpton (Page 2)
197 posted on 08/30/2005 12:33:16 AM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: ChadGore; windcliff
Oops and thanks. Looks like it was the kids father.

Well if he is a good candidate, he can run on the "If I am elected, I will see that fathers will not have to drive 110 mph to get to the airport on time! I will pour millions into better transportation, etc".

198 posted on 08/30/2005 12:57:20 AM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: wagglebee
"Oh baybay....my love gon' come down on you like a chargin' hippopotamus"


199 posted on 08/30/2005 5:04:26 AM PDT by NRA1995 ("People do stupid things...." and I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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To: wagglebee

Al "tawana" Sharpton, the race hustler. This POS is a disgusting human being but guilty white liberals kiss his black ass and moderate democrats are afraid of him. Imagine if the republicans had let David Duke run for president? There is NO difference between Sharptoon and Duke except the color of their skin.


200 posted on 08/30/2005 5:07:56 AM PDT by JarheadFromFlorida
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