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Colorado: Police Return Medical Marijuana
Rocky Mountain News ^ | August 29, 2005

Posted on 08/30/2005 5:17:02 AM PDT by Wolfie

Police Return Medical Marijuana

Along with feeling redemption, Timothy Haas was also feeling queasy today as he picked up a plastic bag containing half an ounce of marijuana at the Denver Police Department.

"I just want to go home and lie down," Haas said. "The marijuana will calm me down."

Denver police returned the marijuana to Haas after authorities confiscated the drugs a month ago. Haas is prescribed to use medical marijuana for post traumatic syndrome and post concussion syndrome.

He suffered the ailments when he was attacked with a bat and stabbed three times in an attempted robbery at his wine business in 2001. Haas started using medical marijuana to deal with the pain three years ago.

In late July, Haas said he was stopped for a security check at Denver Health Medical Center when he visited his brother who was in an automobile accident. Haas showed his medical papers to police when they found marijuana in his backpack.

The drugs were taken away and Haas was never charged.

Robert Corry Jr., Haas' attorney, said he had threatened to file a lawsuit if the marijuana was not returned to his client. The two were happy after leaving the police department.

"This shows Colorado's medical marijuana program is alive and well," said Robert Corry Jr., Haas' attorney. "He wishes he didn't have to go through a lawyer to get it back."

Colorado is one of 10 states to allow people with certain medical conditions to use and grow marijuana with a doctor's approval.

Haas said the marijuana helps him deal with his muscle spasms and the constant vibrations he feels in his spine from his injury.

"I'm the voice for all the terminally ill and legitimate marijuana users who can't get out of bed," Haas said. "It's the last thing a terminal man wants to go through."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: billofrights; colorado; constitutionlist; denver; donutwatch; govwatch; libertarians; police; wodlist

1 posted on 08/30/2005 5:17:02 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

I suppose he would rather drift though that psychotic cannibis haze.....

bad choice for him....bad choice for America.


2 posted on 08/30/2005 5:20:53 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein)
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To: Wolfie
Haas is prescribed to use medical marijuana for post traumatic syndrome and post concussion syndrome.

I'm all for legalization but this perscription does sound like BS. Still, when I think about the "pharmecutically approved" drugs out there that could have been perscribed for the same thing and are daily, this guy is probably safer with the weed.

3 posted on 08/30/2005 5:22:09 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Vaquero
...psychotic cannibis haze....

If there were such a thing.

4 posted on 08/30/2005 5:23:20 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
...psychotic cannibis haze.... If there were such a thing.

Give Pfisor some time... "Call your doctor now and ask for psychotic cannibis haze" :-)

5 posted on 08/30/2005 5:24:33 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: PaxMacian; WindMinstrel; philman_36; headsonpikes; cryptical; vikzilla; libertyman; Quick1; ...

ping


6 posted on 08/30/2005 5:26:30 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: rhombus
I'm all for legalization but this perscription does sound like BS.

It's not hard to find a handful of corrupt doctors who are sympathetic to drug abuse, and the pot users do talk to each other. That's why in states with medical marijuana, it all becomes medical marijuana.

7 posted on 08/30/2005 5:32:55 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: Moonman62
It's not hard to find a handful of corrupt doctors who are sympathetic to drug abuse, and the pot users do talk to each other. That's why in states with medical marijuana, it all becomes medical marijuana.

This should surprise no one and is no less BS than the drugs that are pushed daily by the medical profession. There are so many more important things to get stressed about. Pot smoking should be way way down on the list.

8 posted on 08/30/2005 5:39:08 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Wolfie; Vaquero
...psychotic cannibis haze.....

If he only knew...


9 posted on 08/30/2005 5:46:27 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Moonman62
It's not hard to find a handful of corrupt doctors who are sympathetic to drug abuse, and the pot users do talk to each other. That's why in states with medical marijuana, it all becomes medical marijuana.

A handful of doctors is going to write a prescription for every user in the state? Sure. In barking moonbat land.

10 posted on 08/30/2005 5:48:29 AM PDT by tacticalogic (Say goodnight, Grace.)
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To: Wolfie
"I'm the voice for all the terminally ill and legitimate marijuana users who can't get out of bed," Haas said. "It's the last thing a terminal man wants to go through."

But you're not terminally ill, and you're able to get out of bed...

11 posted on 08/30/2005 5:51:48 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Moonman62
It's not hard to find a handful of corrupt doctors who are sympathetic to drug abuse, and the pot users do talk to each other.

Hell, they even talk to other people, as well!

Your "handful of corrupt doctors" is news to the AMA... and to the millions of sufferers, everywhere. So what if a buzz goes with it! Are you the arbiter? Is it any of your business?

My grandma gave me honey and WHISKEY, when I was five. I'll bet you think that's child abuse!...


12 posted on 08/30/2005 5:52:17 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: pageonetoo; Wolfie

http://www.health.vic.gov.au/drugservices/pubs/cannabis.htm


13 posted on 08/30/2005 6:02:27 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero

That relates to psychotics using cannabis, not cannabis causing psychosis.


14 posted on 08/30/2005 6:10:49 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

You know, it gets boring to come to these threads and have to kick the sh*t out of the same cast of morons.

It's mostly not even amusing - just pathetic.

Take the losers vaquero and the Dentist on this thread this AM. They're no fun to mock!

I demand fresh morons or you can find someone else to ping!


15 posted on 08/30/2005 6:45:57 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: Vaquero
That study is bogus because it doesn't account for the fact that people with mental illness are more likely to be drawn to drugs and alcohol. If as the study says cannabis smokers are 2.4 times more likely than non cannabis smokers to develop psychosis, is it that the marijuana caused the psychosis or that these people with underlying psychological problems turned to marijuana in hopes that it would make them feel better? And how many of these marijuana smokers were also drinkers? From your link: "[S]ome evidence suggests that substances such as alcohol and amphetamines have a greater effect than cannabis in the development of a psychosis."
16 posted on 08/30/2005 7:29:23 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: TKDietz

there are plenty of studies out there....the stuff is a menace.


17 posted on 08/30/2005 7:32:15 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
I wouldn't argue that it's good for you, but close to a hundred million Americans have smoked marijuana and these people didn't all turn into a bunch of raving lunatics. In fact, I looked a while back at statistics from SAMHSA on both marijuana use and serious mental illness. Interestingly enough, the ten states with the highest rates of serious mental illness had lower than average marijuana use rates, and the ten states with the highest marijuana use had lower than average serious mental illness rates. The difference in rates of serious mental illness was fairly significant. If marijuana makes so many people crazy why is it that we don't see much higher than average rates of serious mental illness in states with the highest percentage of marijuana smokers? Why do we see exactly the opposite?

Here is a snip from a post I made before on this with numbers and links to the data:

"I saw this study you were talking about before and found it highly suspect. It did not prove causation. Just out of curiosity I did some checking into statistics on marijuana use and serious mental illness. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) collects data on both mental health issues and drug issues. My thinking was that if marijuana really causes serious mental illness, there would be correspondingly higher rates of mental illness in states with higher rates of marijuana use. Doesn't that seem logical?

First I looked at the state with the highest past month marijuana use, New Hampshire. In that state 10.23% reported use of marijuana in the past month on the last survey and and according to SAMHSA 8.8% of New Hampshire's population suffer from serious mental illness compared to the national average of 8.76%. Then I looked at the state with the lowest marijuana use, Utah. There only 4.00% reported past month marijuana use but SAMHSA says 10.97% suffer from serious mental illness.

Now, that was interesting to me but there are too many variables that can come into play that call into question the results from just two examples. So, I dug a little deeper and looked at the ten states with the highest and ten states with the lowest marijuana use. The national average past month marijuana use was 6.18%. The top ten states averaged 8.93%. Serious mental illness in these states averaged 8.73%, compared to the national average of 8.76%. Serious mental illness in the ten states with the lowest marijuana use averaged 9.44%, even though past month marijuana use only averaged 4.73% in these states.

Why is it that the states with the highest marijuana use actually lower rates of serious mental illness than the states with the lowest marijuana use? I honestly don't know. I don't think you could conclude from that that marijuana use reduces mental illness, but it certainly does call into question research that shows that marijuana use drastically increases mental illness.

Here are the tables I used from SAMHSA's 2003 NSDUH. The link to the past month marijuana use by state is here: http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/2k3State/appB.htm#tabB.3

The link to the serious mental illness numbers by state is here: http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/2k3State/appB.htm#tabB.21 "
18 posted on 08/30/2005 7:47:41 AM PDT by TKDietz
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To: headsonpikes; Wolfie

Wolfie, thanks for the ping, and I must agree with HOP, we need new morons, and hopefully they will have a better argument, other than it turned one kid into a bat. (LOL)


19 posted on 08/30/2005 8:15:06 AM PDT by vin-one (REMEMBER the WTC !!!!!!!!)
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To: Allosaurs_r_us; Abram; AlexandriaDuke; Annie03; Baby Bear; bassmaner; Bernard; BJClinton; ...
Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
20 posted on 08/30/2005 12:42:12 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: Vaquero
this is from your link in post 13

A great deal of the data has been derived from small studies, some of which have contained inherent flaws and

The findings of some of the larger studies conducted over the last 20 years have varied considerably

this is the link your using to support your argument that smoking weed causes phychosis?A website that admits at the outset that they are wrong and make stuff up?Thats not the best argument you can make against smoking weed.Heres a link for you to check out if you want to know the mindset of the people that first had cannabis outlawed.See if you see any similarities in what the proponents of outlawing marijuna said back then and these flawed studys that were in your link today please take special note of wehy they stopped spelling marihuana whith and h and started spelling it with a j before they had it outlawed The History of the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937

21 posted on 08/30/2005 12:54:31 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: vin-one
I don't think it is clear at all to the anti-marijuana people-

To how great an extent the federal government has deceived them about marijuana.

The extent of damage that the government is doing to our population by dividing our population against itself by pitting people who do not use marijuana against those of us who prefer to consume marijuana.

It's not a matter of making enough laws against marijuana to prevent it's use. People who choose to use marijuana are going to do so. It's a matter of how society is going to respond to those of us who enjoy using marijuana. We would all be much better off without the witch hunt.

22 posted on 08/30/2005 3:30:20 PM PDT by winston2 (Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness! :)
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To: Moonman62
It's not hard to find a handful of corrupt doctors who are sympathetic to drug abuse

Exactly, how many enabled Rush Limbaugh's drug abuse?

23 posted on 08/30/2005 3:36:47 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Vaquero

A majority of voters in Colorado have spoken. They support Medical Marijuana, and to think that you have to stop them because it violates your unique morals is the height of arrogance.


24 posted on 08/31/2005 4:37:51 PM PDT by rasblue (Vive le libre Alberta!)
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To: rasblue

yeah me and the feds.....


25 posted on 08/31/2005 5:43:02 PM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
Yes, the feds are also displaying the height of arrogance by exceeding their Constitutional limitations. Real conservatives are against that sort of thing.
26 posted on 08/31/2005 6:26:49 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: headsonpikes
I demand fresh morons

Maybe the next generation of morons has noticed how badly the previous generations have been thrashed on this topic.

27 posted on 08/31/2005 6:30:05 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
No real, libertarians are against those things.....Conservatism tends to agree with my stand.... Funny thing is, I am more of a libertarian, (small "L" please)than a conservative.....but on this issue...I have seen so many wasted human beings who have had so much potential. I guess being brain dead and happy is an individuals perogative...
28 posted on 09/01/2005 3:13:00 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein)
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To: Vaquero
the feds are also [...] exceeding their Constitutional limitations. Real conservatives are against that sort of thing.

No real, libertarians are against those things.....Conservatism tends to agree with my stand....

Conservatives want to flush the Constitution?!

I have seen so many wasted human beings who have had so much potential.

Ever seen alcohol waste human potential? I have. Should it be banned?

I guess being brain dead and happy is an individuals perogative...

Criminalization has had no demonstrable deterrent effect, but has created its own problems.

29 posted on 09/01/2005 3:44:31 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights

I love the way you edited out my caveats.....

you could write for the MSM.


30 posted on 09/01/2005 6:12:32 PM PDT by Vaquero (a red stater trapped in the body of a blue state.)
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To: Vaquero
I love the way you edited out my caveats.....

*yawn* So you like to think of yourself as near-libertarian. So what? Have any responses to my points, or just more whining?

31 posted on 09/01/2005 6:40:05 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: rhombus

Psychotic Cannabis Haze would be a great name for a rock group.


32 posted on 09/01/2005 9:15:34 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Know your rights
Your pointless.

must be a cannabis sativa sense of false importance on your part...
33 posted on 09/02/2005 3:49:52 AM PDT by Vaquero (a red stater trapped in the body of a blue state.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Psychotic Cannabis Haze would be a great name for a rock group.

OK Robert. Yes, psychotic... it almost sounds medical so it must be. Canibis Haze Syndrome is pretty good too but I really like Psychotic Pharmecutical Haze or PPH better. When I go to their concerts not only does my health insurance pay for everything but they also pay for drug companies and physicians to rock on that old cash cow too. PPH is so much more leeegal and it makes me feeeel so right about myself. I really hate those PCH followers, too. They should all be in prison. Imagine the nerve, taking money away from the pharmecutical industrial complex - bastards. They've got to be crazy.... no psychotic. Yeah, that's it. Isn't it time for my next pill? It's medicine you know!

Somehow Robert, I don't see you lining up to buy the anthology from either band.

34 posted on 09/02/2005 4:04:34 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus

Not a big fan of Dave Barry, I guess.


35 posted on 09/02/2005 7:28:21 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Wolfie

It still has to carry a tax stamp on it like cigarettes and whiskey do. No kidding. They passed that law in the 1930s. The catch-22 was that you had to purchase the tax stamp but you couldn't purchase the tax stamp unless you were in possession of actual marijuana which was illegal at the time. Well, if it's no longer illegal to possess -- time to purchase the tax stamps!

Kansas Cannibis Stamp Regulations

36 posted on 09/02/2005 7:41:23 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: robertpaulsen

Yeah, i've read him but not regularly. Not my kind of reading.


37 posted on 09/02/2005 8:02:24 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: FreedomCalls

Yep. Modeled after the method they used to make machine guns illegal.


38 posted on 09/03/2005 5:30:29 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: rhombus
Ever seen alcohol waste human potential? I have. Should it be banned? [...] Criminalization has had no demonstrable deterrent effect, but has created its own problems.

Your [sic] pointless.

No, but you're semiliterate.

must be a cannabis sativa sense of false importance on your part...

Ah, here come the unfounded personal attacks ... stock in trade for drug war fanatics.

39 posted on 09/03/2005 4:57:35 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Vaquero
See post #39.
40 posted on 09/04/2005 7:35:48 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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