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Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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1 posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: NautiNurse
About +/- four hours till darkness falls.

sincere yikes

I kinda doubt this presser would be talking about evacuating the city w/o some definitive information regarding the stability of the levees.

2 posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:26 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: aberaussie; Alas Babylon!; Alia; alnick; Amelia; asp1; AntiGuv; Bahbah; balrog666; blam; Blennos; ..

New thread with updated links and info.

3 posted on 08/30/2005 1:35:40 PM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)
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To: tomkat

Water problems are cropping up.


4 posted on 08/30/2005 1:36:26 PM PDT by brivette
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To: PhiKapMom

Yes, it was the governor; I was wrong about that the other day, too..........LOL.


5 posted on 08/30/2005 1:36:26 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: NautiNurse

Thank you very much for listing the charities!


6 posted on 08/30/2005 1:36:31 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocity of 11 Sept.)
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To: NautiNurse

Sorry, NN. I think I broke the last thread...


7 posted on 08/30/2005 1:36:36 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [Quicquid peius optimo nefas])
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To: tomkat

Why didn't they evacuate BEFORE the hurricane?


8 posted on 08/30/2005 1:36:51 PM PDT by milagro
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To: brivette

Fox: "Hear that hissing sound? That may be a gas leak..." Yikes.


9 posted on 08/30/2005 1:37:06 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: NautiNurse

Bump


10 posted on 08/30/2005 1:37:08 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (In Tampa Bay praying for all In Katrina's path.)
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To: NautiNurse
Seems that Sen. Mary Landrieu has to tell Gov what to say.
11 posted on 08/30/2005 1:37:11 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: NautiNurse

I just listened to that news conference by the LA Governor and it is beyond my comprehension that they really didn't, and seemingly still don't have a plan for this scenario.


12 posted on 08/30/2005 1:37:23 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: L,TOWM

You broke the whole internet!


13 posted on 08/30/2005 1:37:29 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg.)
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To: NautiNurse

Thanks, NautiNurse, for this thread. It's been more informative than some of the wire services. Is there a freeper (Non Red Cross way) of helping these people?


14 posted on 08/30/2005 1:37:41 PM PDT by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: Petronski; milagro

"Just lake water" is a good thing, because that means it's not river water. If the river breaks into the city, it's all over.


15 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:03 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: HapaxLegamenon
Seems that Sen. Mary Landrieu has to tell Gov what to say.

I caught that too. The "Katie Holms" syndrome, apparently.

16 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:14 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: tomkat

I feel sorry for Landrieu,,New Orleans is her heart, her family is there, her father was Mayor. She looks shell shocked.

The Gov is dumb I do believe. Bobby Jindal should have been Gov and I do think Mike Foster would have stepped up to the plate here.

But La is a poor state, democratic for the most part and we had Huey Long if you remember. Long history of poor government.

And I don't think the Gov wants to say that New Orleans is full of toxic chems, waste, bacteria and cess filled water at this point. I mean who would.


17 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:19 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: NautiNurse

in before the ZOT!


18 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:22 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (I Support the President on Iraq and Our Troops; But 'll Freep Him In A Second for Illegal Alien Mess)
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To: Howlin

OMG< the mayor is calling for a DAY OF PRAYER again.........she is a loon.

Good grief. She gets worse by the moment. She's approaching this like a spectator, not a leader. Heck, we've all been praying.


19 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:28 PM PDT by kenth (north Georgia mountains - prayers for all in the path of Katrina)
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To: brivette
Water problems are cropping up

That, brivette, will surely be in the running for 'Understatement of the Millenium'

20 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:28 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: dennis1x

by lake water she means ponchatrain.

this partisan ranting and raving against la/nola officials is getting tiresome and has to provide great laughs for the other side.

maybe this thread can stay on topic.


21 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:32 PM PDT by dennis1x
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To: NautiNurse

Question asked of the Governor. Is it weeks or months before they can move back in? Weeks before assessment... some homes may not be habitable structurally.


22 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:39 PM PDT by Sleeping Freeper
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To: NautiNurse

Live New Orleans Tv -

http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/wmPlayer.pl?title=beloint_khou&props=livenoad


23 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:39 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: NautiNurse

New link for relief donations:

http://wsbradio.com/MARKET/shared/info/katrinarelief.html


24 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:40 PM PDT by eyespysomething (What disgusts me the most is how other GStar families have had their wounds ripped back open! FU CS)
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To: jeffers
This is what you asked for from the last thread: Their projections including losing refineries and offshore pumping and then China taking the opportunity to up the antie and buying oil Mid-Atlantic that Russia was sending to us (at a higher price), putting a dent in home heating reserves and a particularly cold winter without adequate oil supplies to get everyone through this.

Maybe they will re-show it -- pretty sobering. Bottom line is this is the kind of disaster China has been waiting to befall us to give them the upper hand in the energy markets.

25 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:43 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: dawn53

I agree.

"It Will Turn" seems to have been their plan.

They are not exactly the most inspiring "leaders" I've ever seen.


26 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:46 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Howlin
OMG< the mayor is calling for a DAY OF PRAYER again.........she is a loon.

Unbelievable!

27 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:49 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: NautiNurse

Anyone with live pictures?


28 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:49 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: NautiNurse

Looks like the worst case scenario for New Orleans is indeed happening. The health hazards and other dangers will make the city untenable for weeks.


29 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:49 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: OXENinFLA; Dog Gone; Diddle E. Squat
Just below that picture (reposted below) is the lock holding back the Mississippi from Lake Ponchartrain, the Lake 14 feet lower than the Mississippi. The question is, is or is not that lock still in place?

It appears to me that it is not, and that the Mississippi is indeed flowing into Eastern NO.


30 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:54 PM PDT by Torie
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To: milagro



Not everyone has the means to do so. Let's not blame them when you don't know their situation.


31 posted on 08/30/2005 1:38:59 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: NautiNurse

They are showing video of some of the looters, and they are paying good attention to zooming in on their faces. Surely this will matter later. If these people are trapped and they are taking necessary supplies like food, diapers, water, I am sure we can all understand. If they are ripping off beer, tobacco, drugs, or nonessentials, or breaking into p eople's houses and taking personal effects, that is another story.

I am not quite sure how it is they are able to walk around unchecked, if most of the city is under water.


32 posted on 08/30/2005 1:39:01 PM PDT by LibWrangler
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To: r9etb

The question involved what was in the water: is it a toxic soup?


33 posted on 08/30/2005 1:39:25 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg.)
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To: tomkat

I mean drinking water....


34 posted on 08/30/2005 1:39:32 PM PDT by brivette
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To: HapaxLegamenon

Is the Gov. on the verge of a breakdown? The cube-bound, TV deprived of us think so.


35 posted on 08/30/2005 1:39:32 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (I Support the President on Iraq and Our Troops; But 'll Freep Him In A Second for Illegal Alien Mess)
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To: milagro

I can understand why some people didn't evacuate. Maybe they didn't have cars. Many people depend on public transportation.

Maybe they didn't have money for gas, many people live paycheck to paycheck.

I heard one woman at the Super Dome say her car broke down as she was leaving town.

Maybe they were old, with no family, or infirmed, etc.

What they should have done, though, and didn't was to get to the Super Dome as instructed. Seems to me that would have saved a lot of search/rescue time, if more people had come to the Super Dome in the first place.


36 posted on 08/30/2005 1:39:46 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: Torie

Heres some photos I dunno if we have seen all of them.
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/1756


37 posted on 08/30/2005 1:39:47 PM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: NautiNurse

I'd like to say some prayers for the souls lost and those trapped right now and that if they pump out the city, I'll be one of those toursist going to MARTÍ GRAU for the first time this year.


38 posted on 08/30/2005 1:39:51 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Check out my profile if you wanna buy a boat)
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To: cajungirl

Plague Soup


39 posted on 08/30/2005 1:39:55 PM PDT by najida (I run with scissors and I don't play well with others.)
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To: OB1kNOb; All

Updates as they come in on Katrina

03:25 PM CDT on Tuesday, August 30, 2005


Tom Planchet



3:25 P.M. - With conditions in the hurricane-ravaged city of New Orleans rapidly deteriorating, Gov. Kathleen Blanco said Tuesday that people now huddled in the Superdome and other rescue centers need to be evacuated.


"The situation is untenable," Blanco said during a news conference. "It's just heartbreaking."


3:15 P.M. - Charity Hospital is out of commission and they are trying to evacuate patients, but it is hard to get there because rising water is surrounding the hospital. They will try to evacuate the patients to other cities.


3:13 P.M. - Governor Blanco: A lot of people have lost their lives, but we have no numbers because the priority is saving those who are alive so we don't have more casualties.


3:12 P.M. - Senator Vitter: Mayor Nagin's calm and control and command of the facts showed me that we have one of the best leaders in the country right here.


3:12 P.M. - Senator Landrieu - Scenes are similar to what she saw after the Tsunami.


3:11 P.M. - Senator Landrieu: Those who evacuated should be patient and thank God that they are okay because so many still need to get out.


3:09 P.M. - Senator Landrieu: Plenty of people still on rooftops in N.O. East waiting to be rescued. Every boat available is being used to try to save people.


3:07 P.M. - Governor Blanco: We are looking for ways to get people out of the Superdome and out of New Orleans said Governor Blanco as she tried to keep from crying.


40 posted on 08/30/2005 1:40:03 PM PDT by flutters (God Bless The USA)
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To: Petronski

Maybe we'll just need to rebuild the whole thing inland, and a few more feet over sea level.

I apologize for that joke in advance to those of you that will be offended by my crass display of humor.


41 posted on 08/30/2005 1:40:05 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat [Quicquid peius optimo nefas])
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To: Howlin

Probably because it is hard to fathom a state would elect this woman as the Governor. She is way over her head IMHO and answers sound dumb in the press conference. She is now being talked over by people around her. She has no business being the Governor IMHO.


42 posted on 08/30/2005 1:40:07 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
Thank you very much for listing the charities!

If some Freepers work for corporations that "match" donations , Please donate that way. Your donations is worth 2xs as much!

43 posted on 08/30/2005 1:40:18 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (In Tampa Bay praying for all In Katrina's path.)
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To: dennis1x
this partisan ranting and raving against la/nola officials is getting tiresome

It's not partisan; it's truthful.

and has to provide great laughs for the other side

I didn't realize there was an "other side" in a disaster.

44 posted on 08/30/2005 1:40:39 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: bayourant
I am sorry I campaigned against her twice butshort of her doing a filiabuster and stopping all senate business if we didnt get the necessary funding there wasnt much she vitter jindal or anyone else could do.

Trying to prepare a city for a Category 5 hurricane is somewhat akin to fortifying the DFW Metroplex against an F-5 tornado.

You simply can't prevent widespread disaster in the face of that.

45 posted on 08/30/2005 1:40:50 PM PDT by sinkspur (We who have been given much must help those who now have nothing.)
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To: tomkat
are any of you watching local WVUE FOX news out of New Orleans? has the "weather girl" been on?
the one pictured here in the banner at the top HERE she was a very good friend of mine in college..I assume she stayed becuase she was media and she didn't return my call yet..i am worried sick
46 posted on 08/30/2005 1:40:58 PM PDT by janetjanet998
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To: LibWrangler

My sentiments...if they're taking water, or food, sobeit.

Anything else, they're criminals.


47 posted on 08/30/2005 1:41:11 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: NautiNurse

The problem now is how to get 80,000 people out, only way to move 80,000 people is boats, lots and lots of boats. Coast Guard/Navy should organize a Dunkirt operation of the poor city of New Orleans.


48 posted on 08/30/2005 1:41:19 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: brivette
Water problems are cropping up.

Ya think?

49 posted on 08/30/2005 1:41:23 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: NautiNurse

Nice to think that they will be partying come Fat Tuesday but this is going to be a massive task.


50 posted on 08/30/2005 1:41:38 PM PDT by eternity (What's it all about...Alfie?)
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