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The Decline of Fox News
Media Monitor ^ | 8/31/2005 | Cliff Kincaid

Posted on 08/31/2005 8:40:33 AM PDT by Mike Bates

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To: Alberta's Child
I hate to break this to you, but Fox News ain't really "conservative" at all. Do a little research on Mr. Rupert Murdoch and his media empire and then ask yourself what would make anyone think he's a conservative (in the American sense of the word).

You are using the same illogical argument the left uses. They say the Washington Times has no credibility because they are owned by the Rev. Moon. Then they say that ABC, CBS and NBC cannot be biased to the left because of their corporate owners. Those arguments are just so much B.S. What Fox news has done is not lean to the right, but to present both sides, which no one else does. I don't watch Fox when Whorealdo is on. I rarely watch BOR and Greta. I can't watch much of H & C because of C. However, I do watch their news segments because I believe they are not biased to the left. So what if Greta talks about Natalie Holloway. Does CBS, ABC and NBC present news all the time? I think the only channel that does that is the CNN headline news and I will not watch a minute of anything CNN.

You must have missed the thread the other day when a few Freepers were referring to Ann Coulter as a "lightweight." Of course none of these pseudo-intellects were doing any syndicated writing to show Ann how to do it.

There are Freepers who apparently live to bash Rush on any thread he is mentioned.

And anyone who claims that Fox is for a certain IQ level is nothing but a pompous ass whose own IQ I would question.

151 posted on 08/31/2005 11:06:43 AM PDT by saminfl
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To: Mr. Mojo

You're right about Cavuto, IMHO. He's worth watching much of the time.


152 posted on 08/31/2005 11:08:53 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

bump


153 posted on 08/31/2005 11:09:09 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Alberta's Child
Everything I need to know I can find right here on FreeRepublic.
Then how can you make the observation, "Fox News is nothing more than the same tabloid sh!t that pervades all of Rupert Murdoch's media outlets." ?????
154 posted on 08/31/2005 11:16:20 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Mike Bates
I find myself spending less time watching FoxNews. Brit Hume's program is now the only one I regularly try to catch.

My thoughts, exactly. I would not be upset if the FoxNews Programming Director or Peter Chernin showed up on the side of a milk carton, as some other erstwhile notables have:




155 posted on 08/31/2005 11:31:19 AM PDT by OESY
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To: Mike Bates

AMEN to every word. I have been saying this for along time. Except for the top of the hour news, a find myself avoiding FOX because of their obsession crime cases. And I use to be a FOX News junkie. Are you listening Hannity?


156 posted on 08/31/2005 11:36:55 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: ARCADIA

What FOX is doing is appealing to a broad spectrum of people. For Instance, I don't watch Greta but apparently huge numbers of people do. There is a show for everyone so to speak. And if it gets apolitical people who watch the news/entertainment show to consume les liberal bias at other stateions and gets them to watch more of Hannity or Brit, then FOX is doing a masterful long term marketing job AND it will help get people to have access to non-liberal biased news....which is a good thing.


157 posted on 08/31/2005 11:39:40 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: highball

Well since we are allowed to express our opinions on this site, and you have expressed yours:

Mine is this:

(1) Fox is a good source of news, alot better than blathernews and the other msm's.
(2) The only other source of good news is Rush.

MY OPINION!


158 posted on 08/31/2005 11:47:16 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: ZULU; billbears

Krauthammer also came out strong against coddling of illegal immigrants, while Barnes tried to wave it off.


159 posted on 08/31/2005 11:49:29 AM PDT by Clemenza (Proud "Free Traitor" & Capitalist Pig)
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To: Clemenza

Another surprise. Barnes has always been conservative.


160 posted on 08/31/2005 11:50:30 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Mike Bates
Yep, Brit is the only one I watch now too. I tuned in the other day to see the counter protest, but they couldn't be bothered with it. Their coverage of the hurricane has been laughable.

I don't know what they do with the money they earn, but they sure don't spend it on news.

161 posted on 08/31/2005 11:51:52 AM PDT by McGavin999 ("You must call evil by it's name" GW Bush ......... It's name is Terror)
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To: Mike Bates

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474026/posts


162 posted on 08/31/2005 11:59:17 AM PDT by pookie18 (Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: Mike Bates
What ticks me is that the perceived "right-of-center" stance of Fox was bait and switch.

The bait was heady and remained on a long time.....the switch has been more abrupt with liberal step at a time.

I don't like sleight-of-hand perpetrated on me.

Leni

163 posted on 08/31/2005 12:08:25 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: llevrok
"Tragedy TV" is a term I first heard on Laura Ingraham's radio show, somewhere in between all her cutesy sound effects and her making fun of people's clothing and speech patterns (another good Conservative going into a slump). I agree with the majority here that Fox News isn't as good as it used to be. These days they will interrupt any interesting political discussion in favor of a view of anything, anywhere, that's on fire. They seem to be obsessed with live TV cameras on helicopters, showing a car accident or police standoff or warehouse fire that's always irrelevant to national news. Also, consider all of the local missing persons and murder victims who have become national news for no other reason than a desperate hope for lurid sexual details later:

Natalee Holloway - May, 2005
Jessica Lunsford - February, 2005
Lori Hacking - July, 2004
Dru Sjodin - November, 2003
Laci Petersen - December, 2002
Elizabeth Smart - June, 2002
Chandra Levy - What we were watching just prior to 9/11/2001
Matthew Shepard - October, 1998
JonBenét Ramsey - December, 1996
Polly Klaas - November, 1993

Take a look at the Court TV Message boards - this stuff is immensely popular, but IMHO it's not really news. Look at the bottom of the message board main page and you'll see this:

"There are currently 223 members and 273 guests on the boards. | Most users ever online was 3667 on 12-13-2004 at 10:12 PM."

Ridiculous! These are all local stories, unworthy of national news coverage.

But what is this NWI of which some of you are speaking? Is this a different TV news channel? The only thing I see that may be of interest is Newsworld International, but as far as I know that's not available on my cable system.

By the way, the link to the other FR thread about "Conservative Fox News Channel Up 32% (WOW) In August Ratings As Other Cable News Operations Crash" has been posted in #22, #48, #143, and #162. I think we've all seen it by now so it doesn't need to be posted any more.
164 posted on 08/31/2005 12:37:20 PM PDT by Tarantulas (http://borderpundit.tarantulas.net - the BorderPundit blog - a Border Issues weblog)
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To: NonValueAdded

CNN also trounced them on the tsunami coverage. I have thought a million times, if CNN would take the "fair and balanced" approach themselves and hire some real (as opposed to faux) conservative pundits, they could probably beat Fox at its own game.


165 posted on 08/31/2005 1:06:35 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: Mike Bates
All righty then, I guess FOX News should just pack it in huh.

They're DOOMED!!!


Good grief.
166 posted on 08/31/2005 1:14:22 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: Mike Bates
CNN doing the weather as only they know how. LOL!
167 posted on 08/31/2005 1:20:23 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: bethtopaz
Then he reported something the New York Times said about Bush - something like "Bush said that the supporter are giving aide to the Enemy." Brit said, "That's not what he said at all," and then said the correction. Love that man's style!

I caught that and doubt the NY Slimes ran a retraction.

168 posted on 08/31/2005 1:51:51 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: nutmeg

Are you still a big fan nutmeg?


169 posted on 08/31/2005 1:52:43 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: StarFan

Me neither - they don't seem to care about the truth.


170 posted on 08/31/2005 2:05:35 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: Mike Bates

To all (not just Mike Bates, sorry, just responding to the thread issue here)...

I noticed that FOX News' website has now changed from a red background to a blue one.

Seriously, I think this reflects a noticable change. About the details, I can only speculate and as to what this means, but the site is certainly displaying other interesting changes.

The Aruba obsessive themes do appear to be a deflection, in my opinion, from other coverage. Otherwise, FOX has viewer opinions that are completely opposite from those written recently by most (other) viewers.


171 posted on 08/31/2005 2:13:37 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: TommyDale

Yet the Fox news numbers continue to rise. The ratings actually showed that more people WANTED to see the Aruba story. Someone please explain that one.



Because, the others suck sooooooooooo bad!


172 posted on 08/31/2005 2:15:33 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: atomicpossum

Yeah, I agree, Brit Hume's broadcast is great. I always watch. Also watch Neil Cavuto ALMOST daily (not always) and O'Reilly nearly always.

But, Hume's the show I rely on for great discussion and excellent coverage.


173 posted on 08/31/2005 2:15:39 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS
Who is this Media Monitor anyway?  According to DrudgeReport.com...
 
CABLE NEWS RACE
TUES NITE AUG 30
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS GRETA 4,392,000
FOXNEWS HANNITY/COLMES 4,195,000

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 4,136,000
CNN LARRY KING 3,804,000
CNN PAULA ZAHN 3,795,000
CNN BROWN 3,708,000
MSNBC RITA 1,761,000

174 posted on 08/31/2005 5:08:30 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: TheForceOfOne

Thanks very much. I didn't know what I was missing.


175 posted on 09/01/2005 10:38:49 AM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

Yup. Exactly my feeling. I change the channel every time I see Aruba or the missing groom from the cruise ship, etc.

Even Kasich's show was all about that nonsense.


176 posted on 09/02/2005 6:25:10 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: Mike Bates
FOX has degenerated to a lelel where the Shopping Network and the Food Channel are more interesting.

Sheppard Smith is now competing with Julian Phillips as the BAFFOON of the TV networks!
177 posted on 09/02/2005 6:29:30 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: leprechaun9

Shep must be aiming for Keith Olbermann's slot.


178 posted on 09/02/2005 6:48:55 PM PDT by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: leprechaun9
FauX News - 2 hours of real news packed into a 24 hour day of tabloid presentation.
179 posted on 09/02/2005 7:30:14 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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