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Australian's struggle in New Orleans - (No decision yet to aid "richest country in the world")
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | September 1, 2005 | Jano Gibson

Posted on 09/01/2005 1:29:18 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

.......AAP reports: No Australian citizens appear to have been killed or injured in Hurricane Katrina, Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Alexander Downer said today.

"We've been surprised by how few calls we've had to our consular operations branch in DFAT, the Foreign Affairs Department, because we thought there may be more Australians affected in New Orleans than turned out to be the case," Mr Downer told ABC Radio.

"We know of a small number of Australians who have been there. We have no reports though of Australian injuries or deaths. We'll just have to keep waiting to see."

Mr Downer said anyone concerned for the welfare of someone they believe to be in the area should contact the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade and "we will try to follow up if they are Australians".

He said the Federal Government was considering providing assistance to non-government organisations operating in the United States.

"Normally we would, particularly with developing countries, we provide assistance to non-government organisations," he said.

"In this case we are having a look and seeing whether - bearing in mind America nevertheless is the richest country in the world - whether it would be a good thing if we, being the Government, made a financial contribution to one of the non-government organisations helping there such, for example, as the Red Cross.

"But we haven't made a decision yet."

(Excerpt) Read more at smh.com.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; disasterrelief; foreignhelp; humanitarianrelief; hurricane; katrina; neworleans
I'm shocked.
1 posted on 09/01/2005 1:29:20 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Seems its a one way street for America, all give and no get.


2 posted on 09/01/2005 1:33:03 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Any MOOSE LImB countries forking over some bread?


3 posted on 09/01/2005 1:36:38 AM PDT by zarf
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To: SeaBiscuit; Cincinatus' Wife

This article is quite out of date at this point. Since Mr Downer made these statements, the Prime Minister Mr Howard has said that Australia is looking at ways of providing assistance if the US requests it. Australia has made it clear to the government of the United States that if we can help, we will. But it's up to the United States to tell us what help we can provide - the United States hardly needs Australia to tell them what they need.

Australia has provided support to the US during natural disasters in the past (and for that matter, the US has provided support to Australia in such situations). It will do so again - if the US needs our help and tells us what help we might be able to provide.


4 posted on 09/01/2005 1:37:19 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
.......AAP reports: No Australian citizens appear to have been killed or injured in Hurricane Katrina, Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Alexander Downer said today.

Sounds like all Australians in the Big Easy were smart enough to get out before the hurricane hit.

5 posted on 09/01/2005 1:38:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: naturalman1975

What about the Dutch? I think we could use some of their dike engineering there. As a bonus, NOLA will be criscrossed with scenic windmills.


6 posted on 09/01/2005 1:39:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Eh, I hope they don't do it. Let the individuals donate instead of this showboating pseudo-charity.


7 posted on 09/01/2005 1:40:21 AM PDT by MitchellC (Foolishness isn't a mental disorder.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
We should end aid to other countries and use it to aid our folks effected by this disaster. Of course we won't. We'll just spend ourselves into more debt.
8 posted on 09/01/2005 1:40:51 AM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Unfortunately not - there's at least two in New Orleans whose daughter is complaining that the Australian government isn't doing enough to help them (oh, and that the National Guard isn't protecting them). They were on holiday.

Personally, I've no sympathy for them - in my opinion anyone on holiday in New Orleans should have got out as soon as evacuations were mooted - people who live there may have good reason to stay - people on holidays should get out of disaster areas and potential disaster areas, so resources don't have to be wasted on helping them and can go to those who had less choice in the matter.


9 posted on 09/01/2005 1:41:06 AM PDT by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Hmmm...French and Dutch Quarters...anything in Napoleonic Law about space cakes?

[all I know about Napoleonic Law I learned in high schol from Street Car Named Desire...]


10 posted on 09/01/2005 1:43:00 AM PDT by cambridge (prayers for all)
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To: SeaBiscuit

Alexander Downer (sometimes called Alexander Bummer) has an unfortunate way of saying things - so they made him Foreign Minister!

Australia will send what aid the US requests - they might not wish for anything. Private citizens are making donations to the Red Cross, etc. In the past, the US and Australia have exchanged personnel and equipment during mass fire emergencies.


11 posted on 09/01/2005 1:43:23 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: naturalman1975
.... Prime Minister Mr Howard has said that Australia is looking at ways of providing assistance if the US requests it....

Thanks for the information.

12 posted on 09/01/2005 1:58:26 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MitchellC

It's not so much for them to do it (easy for me to say, I'm not in the mess) but it's the way he said it.


13 posted on 09/01/2005 1:59:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Razz Barry

You know, it would be nice to hear something like, (name of country) "The American people have been so generous with their blood and treasure, we are OFFERING (fill in the blank) to help ease their loss."


14 posted on 09/01/2005 2:02:45 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BlackVeil
....Private citizens are making donations to the Red Cross, etc. In the past, the US and Australia have exchanged personnel and equipment during mass fire emergencies.

Thank you for the information.

15 posted on 09/01/2005 2:04:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What about the Dutch? I think we could use some of their dike engineering there.

The Dutch don't know jack about hurricanes.

Eeeshant dat veeeard?

16 posted on 09/01/2005 2:13:19 AM PDT by XpandTheEkonomy
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To: XpandTheEkonomy

They do know about a lotta watta.


17 posted on 09/01/2005 2:15:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A get well card would be nice.


18 posted on 09/01/2005 2:18:47 AM PDT by hershey
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To: hershey
......Australian Foreign Affairs Minister Alexander Downer......

Mr.Downer should embark on a new career path.

19 posted on 09/01/2005 2:23:35 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What about the Dutch? I think we could use some of their dike engineering there. As a bonus, NOLA will be criscrossed with scenic windmills.

I know you're talking about the advanced hydrolic dike managment system in Denmark (something this country COULD have done if we had polidical leadership WILLING to take on the environmental lobby).

Instead, I keep thinking of a guy wearing clodhoppers, liederhozen, and using his finger.

Sometimes, I'm just bad. bad bad pokey.

20 posted on 09/01/2005 2:49:52 AM PDT by PokeyJoe (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those that don't.)
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To: PokeyJoe

Denmark? Try Holland (or more properly the Netherlands)


21 posted on 09/01/2005 2:58:03 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Absolutely!

Another vote here to ask the Netherlands for expert advise.


22 posted on 09/01/2005 4:29:29 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Forget money. How about brain power. Have they got a way to plug a hole in a levee? If so, that would help.


23 posted on 09/01/2005 4:30:59 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: naturalman1975

Send Foster's.


24 posted on 09/01/2005 8:08:14 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Only two requisites to be a judge. Gray hair to look wise and hemorrhoids to look concerned.)
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To: All

If I remember my history correctly, after the 1900 hurricane which completely wiped the city of Galveston off Galveston Island, the city fathers did the folowing:

1. They filled in the Island, raising it several feet higher than previously. They even jacked up the few buildings which remained and filled in under them. They used sand dredged from Galveston Bay, I believe.

2. They hired some Dutch engineers to come up with and build the present seawall. The idea was so good that the seawall was extended in the 1950's-60's well down the Island from its original western end.

This fix brought Galveston through the 1915 hurricane in good shape. The 1915 storm was much worse than the one in 1900. (At least that's what all my kinfolks said).

Incidentally, out of a population of 20,000 or so, it is "guesstimated" that 5000 people perished.


25 posted on 09/01/2005 1:50:30 PM PDT by BLASTER 14
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To: BLASTER 14

OOPS--- "city fathers did the following"...


26 posted on 09/01/2005 2:18:43 PM PDT by BLASTER 14
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To: BLASTER 14

OOPS--- "city fathers did the following"...


27 posted on 09/01/2005 2:19:08 PM PDT by BLASTER 14
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To: BLASTER 14

OOPS !!!


28 posted on 09/01/2005 2:23:59 PM PDT by BLASTER 14
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why don't Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton ask their pals in the U.N. to pitch in and help us? I don't think Kofi Anus has even so much as issued a statement expressing regret over this terrible tragedy.


29 posted on 09/01/2005 2:38:32 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

later read


30 posted on 09/01/2005 2:41:20 PM PDT by Red6
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To: BLASTER 14
They took the 5000 bodies out to sea for burial and they floated back in. They had to burn them on the beach. They had to get "volunteers" by gunpoint to do the job. They spent months dredging to raise the level of the island 17 feet and build the seawall. A truly Herculean effort. I met a woman a few years ago in a Clear Lake, TX grocery store, who told me how she had clung to a berm and survived.


31 posted on 09/01/2005 2:46:14 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I stand corrected. ouch. my finger hurts.


32 posted on 09/01/2005 4:36:28 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those that don't.)
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