Posted on 09/01/2005 6:49:26 AM PDT by Brilliant
National Guard troops in armored vehicles poured into New Orleans Thursday to curb the city's growing lawlessness after Hurricane Katrina.
About 10,000 National Guard troops from around the country were ordered to shore up security, rescue and relief operations along the hurricane-battered Gulf of Mexico coast.
Meanwhile, the evacuation of the Louisiana Superdome was suspended after shots were fired at a military helicopter assisting in rescue efforts. No immediate injuries were reported.
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts and stop thieves who were becoming increasingly hostile. "They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas -- hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Mr. Nagin said.
President Bush said Thursday the federal government has launched the most massive relief effort in history to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina, pledging to reach thousands of victims still needing to be rescued. "I fully understand people wanting things to have happened yesterday," Mr. Bush said in a live interview in the Roosevelt Room of the White House with ABC's "Good Morning America" program. "I understand the anxiety of people on the ground. ... So there is frustration. But I want people to know there's a lot of help coming."
With more than a thousand people feared dead, some refugees that had been staying in increasingly deteriorating conditions at the Superdome sports arena began arriving by bus at a new, more comfortable home at the Astrodome in Houston. Conditions at the Superdome had become horrendous: There was no air conditioning, the toilets were backed up, and the stench was so bad that medical workers wore masks as they walked around. The first of 500 busloads of people arrived early Thursday at the Astrodome...
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What you have there are thousands of people who've never taken care of themselves, who don't have a clue as to how to innovate, adapt, or overcome, save to loot some stores.
Somebody in authority there better put out the order to shoot these freakin' rabid animals on sight. No trial, no question, bang...dead. Two in the chest, one in the head.
Many good people will likely die simply because help cannot be brought to them due to shooters and looters. The National Guard should be ordered to shoot these evildoers.
Shooting at rescue helecopters? FFS! bring in the armored attack helecopters and let them have it.
What We Know So Far:
1) People need to evacuate New Orleans due to lack of water, food, shelter.
2) African Americans are looting and in some cases shooting at rescuers and the media -- as seen on national TV.
3) The Governor and Mayor of New Orleans are AWOL.
4) The levy is still breached and water cannot be pumped out until it is repaired.
5) The New Orleans police can not handle the problem as evidenced by the wide spread lawlessness. Martial law is just a term and not enforced. New crews (NBC) (CBS) (FOX) are having to hire professional armed security to guarantee their safety.
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If martial law is really in place, it has to be enforced otherwise it is a joke. Perhaps some USMC LAV's and Tracs would be helpful.
The failure of both the mayor and the governor to issue orders to shoot looters now results in the need to remove law enforcement from the effort to get decent, honest people out of harm's way. 1500 police officers could be a big help in getting some people out of there before they die, but, instead, they're diverted to address a problem that has now grown so large it probably can't be stopped short of the use of serious firepower. If just a couple of looters had been shot right at the beginning, this wouldn't be happening. A bit of judiciously applied violence saves freakin' lives.
National Guardsmen getting shot at? Some will no doubt be killed. Better brace ourselves for the mother of one of them to come forward and ask "why did my son have to die??" The media will then ask "why did Bush send troops to Louisiana?!"
Don't forget the new protest in Crawford..
Because the MSM audio will not reflect what you are going to see with your own eyes!
What you have there are thousands of people who've never taken care of themselves, who don't have a clue as to how to innovate, adapt, or overcome, save to loot some stores.
I would add hollywood's endless promoting of a hopeless, nihilistic culture.
The politics of disaster, DEMOCRAT POLITICIANS ARE INCOMPETANT AND CANNOT DO THE NEEDED THINGS TO PROTECT PEOPLE! Blanco will be the last Democrat governor of Louisiana for a LONG (Huey & Russel) time......
This was a disaster that waiting to happen. I'd be surprised to learn the environmentalists haven't been predicting this.
Here is information from a pre-Katrina web page.
The levee system that has been built along the river, coupled with the canal system to keep the interior of the city dry, prevent the land from being replenished by the annual spring floods. As a result, the land will continue to sink until eventually there will be nothing to stop the waters of the Gulf to rush back upon the fragile land.In addition, the fresh water that is pumped into the brackish wetlands surrounding the city is creating an ecological disaster. When the Bonnie Carre Spillway is used in order to spare the city of New Orleans from floods, the consequences to the coastal estuary system is profound. As a result, in order to save itself from the waters surrounding it, the city of New Orleans is slowly destroying its own environment.
The final death knoll of the city may very well come from the river itself. Scientists and environmentalists know that the Mississippi is trying to change its course that will bypass the city in favor of the shorter route to the Gulf through the Atchafalaya basin. So far, the Corps of Engineers has prevented the river from doing this. But, one day, it will happen, perhaps following a direct hit from a hurricane. As late summer and early fall approach every year (hurricane season), New Orleans stands with the threat that it will lose its own lifeline. No canal system and no levee system will prevent the disaster that will follow.
1. Abbott Labs = 4 million in cash and supplies.
2. Pfizer = 2 million to rebuild hospitals
3. Bayer = 2 million in cash and supplies.
4. Kellog = 7 Truckloads of cookies (nutra bars) and crackers.
Johnson & Johnson = $250,000 in toothbrushes, soap, shampoo, pain relievers.
Cingular, Verizon and Motorola...free calling and emergency communication equipment.
Well, you may be right about the party affiliation, but I don't think many Republicans would have done much better. They're all gutless weenies more afraid of looking bad or being sued by some ACLU thug than they are committed to doing their prescribed duties.
I was thinking the same thing. Where will all that detritus go? I remember reading about the subject after one of the Florida hurricanes, how junk was piled into staging-areas, but what then?
Uh emmett there, who are the democrats biggest supporters.
I'll give you a hint, the ACLU thugs(etc. etc.), maybe you shouldn't act like a liberal, by blaming the victim, instead of the thugs(ACLU, liberals, etc.etc.)
Use it as clean fill and raise the city above sea level ?
I have heard of very little looting in Mississippi, run by Republican Haley Barbour. He put the word out in the immediate aftermath that looting would not be tolerated. Blanco and Nagin have not said anything at all before last night, when it was too late...........
The principal author of the Constitution, James Madison, certainly thought that this "general welfare clause" allowed the expenditure of federal funds only for purposes specifically described and outlined. This includes the power to coin money, establish rules for naturalization, regulate interstate commerce, conduct a census, establish post offices, support the military, establish copyright laws and a few other purposes.Charity is beautiful. It is not, however, a power delegated to the federal government of the United States of America.
Economist and columnist Walter Williams points out that other presidents vetoed "humanitarian" bills, finding no allowance for them in the Constitution. In 1854, President Franklin Pierce vetoed a bill to provide monies for the mentally ill: "I cannot find any authority in the Constitution for public charity. ... [It] would be contrary to the letter and the spirit of the Constitution and subversive to the whole theory upon which the Union of these States is founded." In 1887, President Grover Cleveland vetoed an appropriation to help drought-stricken Texas counties, saying, "I feel obliged to withhold my approval of the plan to indulge in benevolent and charitable sentiment through the appropriation of public funds ... I find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution."
How exactly am I blaming the victim - or acting like a liberal? The number of politicians of either party who are willing to stand up to criminals, whether those criminals be looters, murderers or ACLU thugs, is infinitesimally small. I want those in positions of authority to do what they swore to do when the took office, not back down from marauding savages because they're afraid to act decisively.
On what freakin' planet is that "liberal", pal?
Painful as it is, I tuned into the Today show for a few minutes - Carl Quintanilla (sp?) used the phrase "I have to be careful here" (presumably about how he reported the looting and lawlessness, especially not mentioning anyone's race) at least 3 times when reporting from NO about the looting, and he looked very scared.
(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
Use non-organic rubble for fill.
If they get enough fill, they won't have to move New Orleans, it'll be sitting on a hill, like old Hissarlik (the Troy of Homer).
Dunno if you saw the presser, but Barbour had a steely-eyed NG commander with him . . . after Barbour said that looting would not be tolerated, the NG guy said "Looters will be given No Quarter." No Quarter means you can't even surrender - they just shoot you dead even if you throw your hands in the air.
I don't know if your average looter has any idea of the technical meaning of No Quarter . . . but the guy's expression probably gave them the general idea.
Even if they may feel privately that food and water is o.k. because of total government breakdown, officials may NEVER approve, condone, or ignore looting. Because the looters don't ever stop with food and water.
I thought the Dumbocrats said Bush was doing nothing.
Bwa-hahahah. I can just see this guy: "Katie, the ni . . . . ,er, make that the LOOTERS are everywhere."
Forget that. It's $1.25 at Starbucks, anyway.
Exactly what do these fools think used to happen back before the Mississippi was "leveed up", and far larger amounts of fresh water were flushed into the marshlands with every spring flood???
The Million dollar question is now...How many innocent lives were lost as a result of the hoodlum looters? It may be that hundreds of lives have been lost due to the reallocation of police and NG forced to stop rescue operations in order to restrain or contain these criminals. This miserable lot of smash&grab scum demonstrate the lowest deplorabe state of mankind. The world watches as able bodied strong young men and grossly overfed women hoist bulging clothing racks and heavy electronics from local merchants, yet they are unwilling to lift a finger to help a brother? How dare they pass by ignoring fellow neighbors or kin facing mortal danger? How much closer to hell do they dare to dance?
Uh feweut(whistleing sound). No mention of that ultra large megaphone the "infintesimally" small ACLU has called ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Wash Compost, by you.
What to do with the debris?
Let the Mississippi have it. The river will clean the area if allowed to do it's thing.
9/11 was 4 years ago. Homeland Security Agency has been touted as being there not only to prevent security breaches but also to handle disasters. The Feds and each state have Homeland Security agencies. The storm was headed on its way to New Orleans area for at least 3 days before it hit. New Orleans is the largest (in terms of tonnage) port in the US, it has immense strategic signifcance...it is closed now. There was no viable plan of disaster mangement for New Orleans in place before the storm. In short, the authorities cannot handle major disasters no matter what they say to build, falsely, public confidence. The money spent on homeland security agencies is a total waste.
"Exactly what do these fools think used to happen back before the Mississippi was "leveed up", and far larger amounts of fresh water were flushed into the marshlands with every spring flood???"
They're environmentalists, don't confuse them with facts.
LOL---ain't it the truth!!
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