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Ten Year Old, Arrested for Giving Food to Terri Schiavo, Apologizes
LifeSite ^ | August 31, 2005

Posted on 09/01/2005 9:51:24 AM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer; 8mmMauser; Brad's Gramma; Diva Betsy Ross; Earthdweller; floriduh voter; ...

Now THAT's an apology! LOL

What would you do if a judge ordered you to apologize for doing what Jesus wants you to do? Joshua did a great job!


101 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:24 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter

I thought it was Schindler supporters they won't talk to.


102 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:10 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Modernman

Oh, please. The judges are the fanatics in Florida and they were derelict in their duties and violated laws, much like the thugs who are shooting at the guard in NO.


103 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:21 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham; txrangerette
If they really wanted to slug this thing out, I think they'd have grounds on the basis that a court cannot force a person to apologize for something. To do so is to force a person to admit guilt; something anathema to our justice system.

He pled guilty - they would ahve no legal legs to stand on.

104 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:22 AM PDT by drungus
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To: Just Kimberly
So you really believe that he came to this idea all by himself and that his parents actually tried to discourage him? Really?

Yes

Fair enough - I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't believe a 10-year-old is capable of making these types of decisions and implementing them completely on his own.

105 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:40 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: bahblahbah

God was not wrong to use Joshua.


106 posted on 09/01/2005 11:03:18 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Salt Grain; wideawake; GBA; My2Cents

Well, Salt Grain - I don't know about your children, but either one of my sons could have written that apology by the time they were 10.

I would never ask my son to do what this boy did, but I wouldn't be surprised if it had happened here in my town, that one of them would have thought about wanting to do it.

Have a little faith - some kids are just good kids.


107 posted on 09/01/2005 11:03:56 AM PDT by HeadOn (Don't talk to me about global warming unless you don't own a car.)
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To: NYer

After reading the title and before reading the article I was all set to rant and rave about why this kid never should have apologized, etc. What an awesome kid!! I don't care if he had help writing it or not. To "apologize" and still be able to hold to his beliefs is fantastic. I would be so proud if I were his parents!


108 posted on 09/01/2005 11:05:17 AM PDT by samiam1972 (Live simply so that others may simply live!)
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To: Stone Mountain

So let me ask you again - what if this child was arrested protesting the Iraq war? Would you still be as supportive of a child protesting and being arrested in this way? Would you still believe that this child came to the conclusion he did completely on his own as you believe Joshua did?


109 posted on 09/01/2005 11:05:29 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: floriduh voter
And now the bashing of the act by the trolls.

One poster here called the Terri supporters fanatics. Well, it's those who hated Terri and wanted make sure she died a horrible, painful death, even if it meant denying her due process, who are the fanatics.

A normal person would not want to see an innocent person starved and dehydrated to death. Or would a normal person prevent the parents from the bedside of their dying child.

What Michael Schiavo did to Terri and her family was sadistic.

110 posted on 09/01/2005 11:05:51 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: NYer

In light of the order for him to write an apology for doing the right thing, I have to wonder what assignment he got for community service. One of our local judges has been known to order kids to help out at one of the churches. I'm sure that wasn't the case here.


111 posted on 09/01/2005 11:06:13 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Stone Mountain; Republic
Folks, all the kid did was take 2 steps from the sidewalk towards the Pd who had a nice $100.00 tent over their post so they didn't get hot outside while Terri was being murdered inside for two weeks.

The indoor cops were even worse. The kid got nowhere NEAR the door to Hospice Woodside. The one person who did was TAZERED. Someone tried to go in the back and the K-9 team got him. HW has a large parking lot and a lovely FOUNTAIN before their parking overhang and front door.

The police inside and out were RUDE and they also LIED on numerous occasions.

112 posted on 09/01/2005 11:07:04 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: Stone Mountain

Great.... I'm talking to myself now... : )


113 posted on 09/01/2005 11:07:04 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain

If the kid was exploited by his parents as you speculate despite their denials, forcing his apology is a more exploitive act on the part of the judge.


114 posted on 09/01/2005 11:07:10 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "ROFLOL!" -- tuliptree76)
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To: Just Kimberly

So let me ask you again - what if this child was arrested protesting the Iraq war? Would you still be as supportive of a child protesting and being arrested in this way? Would you still believe that this child came to the conclusion he did completely on his own as you believe Joshua did?


115 posted on 09/01/2005 11:07:40 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain

Does anybody bother reading the articles any more? Sheesh!


116 posted on 09/01/2005 11:08:05 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: AmishDude
If the kid was exploited by his parents as you speculate despite their denials, forcing his apology is a more exploitive act on the part of the judge.

Interesting point. I've never really been a fan of forced apologies anyway. An apology is only real if one means it.
117 posted on 09/01/2005 11:09:34 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: floriduh voter
Oh, please. The judges are the fanatics in Florida and they were derelict in their duties and violated laws, etc. etc.

As has been demonstrated to you many, many times on the Terri threads, the judges involved in the case followed the letter of the law.

You just didn't like the law and wanted activism from Florida's judges.

Let it go.

118 posted on 09/01/2005 11:09:50 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Stone Mountain

Since I don't know the mindset of the child and his position on the war, I'm unable to comment on that.

For sake of debate however, if this child felt moved to protest the Iraq war, then so be it. We all have that right, even a 10 year old.

I'm sure he did hear his parents discuss this death watch. Great. His parents taught this boy to pay attention to society changing issues that are simply wrong. Wrong not because of "politics", but wrong because of life being taken for no reason other than "politics".

The war is much more than politics. Millions now have an opportunity to be free. That is a noble cause and certainly worthy of the effort.

The only reason to protest against Iraq is all selfish reasons. I have yet to hear one valid non-selfish reason not to be there.

All of us will die, yet only a few will die with honor while attempting to free a whole society...or even 1 person. That is a true hero and may God Bless them all.


119 posted on 09/01/2005 11:10:04 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica
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To: BykrBayb
Does anybody bother reading the articles any more? Sheesh!

What did I miss?
120 posted on 09/01/2005 11:10:30 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: floriduh voter

Wish I knew their names...would love to send them a short email asking how it felt to stop a child from offering water or food to a person dying due to lack of it...


121 posted on 09/01/2005 11:10:56 AM PDT by Republic (Michael Schiavo comes to mind...ulitimate control is never relinquished with ease)
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To: Stone Mountain

The fact that Joshua decided on his own to do what God asked of him. His parents didn't force him.


122 posted on 09/01/2005 11:12:07 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: NYer; Coleus
Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me,
naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.'
Then the righteous 16 will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?'
And the king will say to them in reply, 'Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.'
Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink,
a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.'
Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?'
He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.'
And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

Matthew 25:34-46

Of course to some, this is nothing more than a parable and therefore not something that we need to take literally. Amazingly, this young man has a better grasp of the meaning of life and our relationship to the Lord than most adults.

123 posted on 09/01/2005 11:12:35 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: NYer

he should not have plead guilty. no jury would have convicted this boy.


124 posted on 09/01/2005 11:13:59 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Dante3
Well, it's those who hated Terri and wanted make sure she died a horrible, painful death, even if it meant denying her due process, who are the fanatics.

There were no such people, at least not on FR.

125 posted on 09/01/2005 11:14:02 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: BykrBayb
The fact that Joshua decided on his own to do what God asked of him. His parents didn't force him.

I addressed that point. Doesn't anyone read posts anymore? Sheesh.

Okay, with that condescending crap out of the way, I will say that I don't believe that a 10-year-old is capable of coming to that conclusion, getting to the hospital site and getting arrested without the help and encouragement of his parents.
126 posted on 09/01/2005 11:16:22 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: NYer
This is one very special and brave child. ..


Terri Schiavo Before dehydration

God Bless you Terri.
Let everyone who said your beautiful smile was fake be haunted by it for the rest of their days.

127 posted on 09/01/2005 11:16:33 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Earth to liberals, we were not in Iraq on 9/11 so how did the war cause terrorism again?)
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To: BykrBayb
DISGRACEFUL
~ Impeach the judge ~


128 posted on 09/01/2005 11:17:29 AM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Salt Grain
"It was a ham-handed symbolic act and he was put up to it by adults who don't even have the decency to stand up in court and take the heat off him. What "courage"."

I have 3 children who are all Christians, meaning they are born again believers, new in Christ Jesus. This is a choice they made personally, to let Him be their Lord and God. He, Jesus Christ their Lord, has come into their hearts forever and will never leave. I watch them everyday and watch how their Lord and God, Jesus, compels them to live by His laws and please Him and obey Him and speak for Him. Children and adults who have Him in their hearts do what they do based on a choice they have made and the free will they have been given by their Lord and the LOVE they have for Him and others.
129 posted on 09/01/2005 11:18:31 AM PDT by Esther Ruth (I have loved thee with an EVERLASTING LOVE, Jeremiah 31:3)
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To: Stone Mountain

At what point do you believe a child develops a brain of his/her own? If a 10 year old isn't capable of knowing that it's wrong to torture a woman to death for the crime of being disabled, at what age would he be old enough?


130 posted on 09/01/2005 11:18:59 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Modernman; All
The judges violated the law and are guilty of FELONIES. You failed to mention that Terri's rehab monies were robbed and they started trying to murder her in February of 2000.

HOW TERRI WAS SWINDLED AND MURDERED BY JUDGES AND THE STATE OF FLORIDA: http://www.judgegeorgegreer.com

131 posted on 09/01/2005 11:19:10 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: wideawake

Love the apology.

A Babylon 5 fan would think of Sheridan's "apology" to the Centauri.

< /obscure reference >

Dan


132 posted on 09/01/2005 11:19:54 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BykrBayb

This is going to be the September Terri Daily Thread. Please put the AUDIO of Terri's dad telling her the feeding tube is coming out on this thread for the folks who are still unaware of Terri's true condition: alert and aware of her surroundings.


133 posted on 09/01/2005 11:20:41 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: Salt Grain
SOMEBODY was expressing themself but I assure you it wasn't the boy.

You shouldn't be bitter just because the ten-year-old has better communication abilities than you do (in the future don't mix plurals with singulars).
134 posted on 09/01/2005 11:21:31 AM PDT by newguy357
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To: AmishDude
It is sad that some people on this thread are unable to believe that a child is capable of performing a good act - I can imagine what they or their children, if they have any, must be like.

I've seen children do good deeds. And yes, as a parent, I'd urge my children do to the right thing and teach them compassion.

135 posted on 09/01/2005 11:22:08 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: floriduh voter
The judges violated the law and are guilty of FELONIES.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. No prosecutor, from the local county people up to the Federal level, agrees with you, however.

And neither do the majority of Americans.

136 posted on 09/01/2005 11:22:36 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: Republic; tutstar
The cop's names? Just write to the Pinellas Park PD a letter to the Chief. I'm sure HE'S PALS WITH SHERIFF COATS, JUDGE GREER AND THE OTHER murderers who aided and abetted.

I saw a picture of Jeb Bush this morning. He's starting to look like Jim King. Jeb's hair is getting white and he's put on at least fifty pounds.

137 posted on 09/01/2005 11:23:27 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: oceanview

I don't think juvie court has a jury, just a Judge who hopes to have Judge Greer's job someday.


138 posted on 09/01/2005 11:24:36 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: Modernman

Zogby poll: IN FAVOR OF TERRI'S LIFE 79%. FREE REPUBLIC POLL: IN FAVOR OF TERRI'S LIFE 87%.


139 posted on 09/01/2005 11:26:20 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: floriduh voter

Direct link to the audio file of Terri crying when she heard the news about the tube coming out. http://www.apfn.org/audio/terri.mp3

Warning! If you have any morals at all, this will be hard to listen to. If you get off on torturing and murdering disabled people, you'll really enjoy this.


140 posted on 09/01/2005 11:28:37 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: atomicpossum
"In essence, he tells the judge 'You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order!'"

Exactly. That judge was an idiot for sentencing the kid to write an apology. He is supposed to apologize for trying to save someones life? That is so twilight zone weird the judge needs his head examined. Honestly how retarded can you get?

He should have left it at community service. If he had this wouldn't have even made the paper. Now everyone knows what a moron the judge is.
141 posted on 09/01/2005 11:30:00 AM PDT by monday
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To: Republic

FLORIDA IS ON THE SIDE OF THE CULTURE OF DEATH. Charlie rist, Judge James Whittemore, Senator Jim King, Judge George Greer, LE and former Sheriff Rice who resigned as Sheriff to become a House member so he could vote to KILL TERRI. He's given MICHAEL SCHIAVO a job at the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office. CONNECTED, HINO IS CONNECTED and Terri was murdered.

142 posted on 09/01/2005 11:30:13 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: BykrBayb

Can't vote for TOM LEE for CFO because as Senate President, he was unable to get these GOP killers to vote for Terri's life.

143 posted on 09/01/2005 11:31:48 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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To: floriduh voter
Zogby poll: IN FAVOR OF TERRI'S LIFE 79%. FREE REPUBLIC POLL: IN FAVOR OF TERRI'S LIFE 87%.

That's not what we were talking about. The question was whether the majority of Americans consider Judge Greer to be a criminal.

Clearly, they do not.

144 posted on 09/01/2005 11:31:55 AM PDT by Modernman ("A conservative government is an organized hypocrisy." -Disraeli)
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To: floriduh voter
Video of Terri with her father.
145 posted on 09/01/2005 11:32:16 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb
If you get off on torturing and murdering disabled people, you'll really enjoy this.

Only someone seriously sick and twisted would take pleasure in that.

146 posted on 09/01/2005 11:33:07 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Stone Mountain

"Way to exploit a child for a political cause - what a wonderful father...."

According to the article the father warned his son he would be arrested but the son decided to do it anyway. You think he is a lier?


147 posted on 09/01/2005 11:34:04 AM PDT by monday
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To: floriduh voter

Sounds like corruption to me. The US attorney in Tampa needs to investigate.


148 posted on 09/01/2005 11:34:16 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: Modernman

The majority of Americans agree that murder is illegal.
The majority of Americans agree that Terri was murdered.


149 posted on 09/01/2005 11:34:36 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Modernman
Judge Greer is a criminal. You keep changing the topic slightly but that won't work. www.judgegeorgegreer.com

"The law of the case is that she will die."

That is and was B.S. It is judicial tyranny. If he didn't have such powerful friends, Terri would still be alive.

It is unprecedented to kill a disabled person with a death order. You don't understand. THIS IS WHAT ADOLPH HITLER'S T-4 PROGRAM WAS ABOUT. (listen to the audio of Terri.) over and out.

150 posted on 09/01/2005 11:36:31 AM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Daily Newsfeeds & Weekly Update)
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