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Paying the Price for Katrina and America’s Shadow Government
The Rutherford Institute ^ | 9/1/2005 | John W. Whitehead

Posted on 09/01/2005 2:04:58 PM PDT by Constitution Restoration Act

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To: shortstop

Looks like a fairly prolific writer......is that the point?


41 posted on 09/01/2005 2:49:32 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: Constitution Restoration Act

FEMA is the shadow gov't?


42 posted on 09/01/2005 2:49:43 PM PDT by RightWhale (Load counter)
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To: Constitution Restoration Act

Odd that Whitehead, whom I have always assumed to be one of the good guys and a conservative, suddenly comes out of the closet and attacks Bush.

A lot of conservatives had suspicions about FEMA during the clinton years. Clinton appointed the Arkansas State Policeman who used to procure women for him while he was governor as head of FEMA. There was a lot of talk back then that clinton might use FEMA to take over the country, after declaring a state of emergency. I thought at the time that there was something in this talk, because he certainly passed a lot of very suspicious presidential Executive Orders. If 9/11 had happened on clinton's watch, he probably would have used it to make himself President for Life.

Other than the clinton years, however, I have never seen FEMA as a shadow government, or feared it. So it seems especially odd that Whitehead mentions Bush and Reagan's connections with FEMA but NEVER MENTIONS CLINTON.

What gives here? Has Whitehead gone round the bend and decided to join the enemy?


43 posted on 09/01/2005 2:51:55 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: american spirit
**Looks like a fairly prolific writer......is that the point?**

Reads like tinfoil stuff to me.

44 posted on 09/01/2005 2:54:57 PM PDT by shortstop ( Win One For the Gipper)
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To: Cicero; RightWhale
You might want to read this before drawing conclusions about Whitehead's mental state.
45 posted on 09/01/2005 2:59:22 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: shortstop
I did`nt look any of the articles up.Are they liberal or libertarian?
Sometimes a distinction without a difference.
46 posted on 09/01/2005 3:02:09 PM PDT by carlr
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To: shortstop

Anything specifically?......I'm trying to figure out some of this stuff myself and I appreciate any insights from others?


47 posted on 09/01/2005 3:03:39 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: TradicalRC

There are right wing kooks, too.

In some ways, when they get far enough out there, they sort of morph into the same group.


48 posted on 09/01/2005 3:04:40 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: Constitution Restoration Act

Plans for the repair and upkeep of the levees were completed 20 years ago and no one acted on them. Even if Bush had tripled the money to NO and they had started working on the levees they wouldn't have been finished for Katrina.


49 posted on 09/01/2005 3:07:32 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Caipirabob

"Of course, it's not like anything could have been done since Camille hit in the past 35 years. Jeez, why don't they just say it in the title: It's BUSH'S FAULT!"

Already being done on some liberal blogs. Below is a example.. Its people like this below that makes believe that some of the liberals need.. well they need a attitude adjustment (What I want to say will probably land me in jail)




http://imprisonbush.com/index.php/archives/2005/08/31/politicizing-tragedy-get-a-new-schtick/


50 posted on 09/01/2005 3:09:26 PM PDT by Kitanis
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To: Constitution Restoration Act
Many critics believe that FEMA is a “shadow government” that will take over at any time.

Well, we know one of them. Who are the others? What are their credentials? Why should we believe them?

51 posted on 09/01/2005 3:10:41 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Have you visited http://c-pol.blogspot.com?)
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To: Cicero

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=541
In its Oct.17, 1994, issue, The Spotlight published an article titled "Dictatorial Powers for FEMA" based on Senate bill S. 1697, introduced in November 1993 by Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.). The bill died without reaching the Senate floor. But who needs actual legislation anymore? Bill Clinton accomplished the purposes of the bill and more when he signed Executive Order 12919 on June 3, 1994.

This executive order cited authority under the Defense Production Act of 1950 and one section of the U.S. Code. Thirteen executive orders were revoked or amended, definitions were expanded, and more presidential powers were delegated to the director of FEMA.

Of particular interest is Part VI of Executive Order 12919. The head of any FEMA department or agency is empowered to establish an expertise-based National Defense Executive Reserve. Section 602 authorizes any head "to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation. ..."


52 posted on 09/01/2005 3:13:50 PM PDT by Constitution Restoration Act
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To: Constitution Restoration Act

Anyone have some tinfoil I can borrow to make me a hat????


53 posted on 09/01/2005 3:14:09 PM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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To: TradicalRC

Even more scary that we have some dumb ones on our side too. Oh yeah, McCain and Hagel and Voinavich...I forgot.


54 posted on 09/01/2005 3:17:41 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Constitution Restoration Act

I have a question. Is FEMA in command of the operations at the Super Dome?


55 posted on 09/01/2005 3:18:59 PM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

http://www.fema.gov/library/eo12919.shtm


56 posted on 09/01/2005 3:19:59 PM PDT by Constitution Restoration Act
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To: Constitution Restoration Act

Just curious if there's any provision in the Constitution for executive orders and the fact they bypass normal Constitutional process.......it still makes my blood boil when I remember that idiot Begala saying........."stroke of the pen, law of the land.......kinda cool"


57 posted on 09/01/2005 3:21:19 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: tsmith130

Yeah, like the CoE can award that much in contracts in two months.

Cna any same person really believe that all the flood problems could have been solved with a mere $71 million?


58 posted on 09/01/2005 3:21:25 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Liberalism is an ill fated luxury that we cannot afford at this time; it does not work in a crisis.)
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To: verity

where is the tin foil alert on this post? Took a while to realize the writer is practiced at the use of adjectives to describe his opinions.


59 posted on 09/01/2005 3:22:30 PM PDT by q_an_a
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To: theDentist

We should stop debating the libs' talking points and totally refuse their premise. I don't think protection against hurricanes is the job of the federal government. This should be done at the local level. That would be New Orleans in this instance, who did not believe it needed to improve its levees or build a sea wall SINCE ITS INCEPTION!

Looking for government to help in every eventuality is the specialty of the libs. Let's not play by their rule book.


60 posted on 09/01/2005 3:28:05 PM PDT by winner3000
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