Posted on 09/01/2005 6:36:09 PM PDT by wagglebee
Selection:
The act of choosing between 2 or more options, based on a relative quality of a specific trait.
Natural Selection:
Mother Nature sets the parameters.
Mother nature makes lots and lots of selections. Some survive, most perish. In the battle for survival the weak die, the strong prevail.
The one big social policy question: What is best for our society?.
So are you saying we should claim to know something no one knows for the good of society? And that you know what that is?
Do you really want to step into that (add your own favorite phrase/word here)?
Fate of the SOUL, perhaps....
Why is it that Christianity and Islam alone among the worlds religions think they MUST convert everyone else to their religion.
I'll give Christianity this, at least the Christians stopped using torture and murder as a persuader and incentive a few hundred years ago.
I would love to hear from an ID person, what kind of evidence would decisively invalidate ID.
***I would venture something here. As far as I can tell, much of the current debate has resulted from probabilities of proteins doing their thing. I've seen estimates from 10^40 to 10^260. The theory is that when these chemical reactions take place over long periods of time in large volumes (the entire global ocean content volume as one example), the probabilities come down to something less than impossible. What I would consider decisive evidence of life happening by chance is that the probabilities come down to p=1, using the assumptions that there was perhaps 2 or 3 billion years of window of opportunity and starting from atmospheric models that use air that has been captured in buckyballs from meteorite impacts billions of years ago.
So are you saying we should claim to know something no one knows for the good of society?
***No. When I review what my post says, it does not say that, so please refrain from putting words in my mouth. I am here to debate what is best in terms of social policy. Policy gets decided by guys like GWB with inputs from people like you and people like me. Your vote counts the same as one of those jurors on the OJ trial, just like mine does, and those are the people we try to influence with our ideas. I find it interesting that the two best presidents in recent memory were both in agreement on this issue.
Why should any origins philosophy be taught in a high school science class? The subject is so complex that PhDs are basing entire careers on debating the finer points of it. Teach science in science classes. When someone decides to major in biology or whatever, let them learn about theories of origins at the appropriate time, perhaps in a philosophy class or 2nd year bio class. We don't teach calculus until after 3 years of mastery of algebra.
The subject is so complex
Actually, it's very simple...no one knows... any questions?
The one big social policy question: What is best for our society?. < So are you saying we should claim to know something no one knows for the good of society? And that you know what that is? Do you really want to step into that (add your own favorite phrase/word here)?
I'm sure that everyone else here is as tired of your alzheimerish game as I am. Go back and read the posts that you have so dishonestly responded to and you will find your answer. (but your eyes are not programmed to see it)
No. When I review what my post says, it does not say that, so please refrain from putting words in my mouth. I am here to debate what is best in terms of social policy. Policy gets decided by guys like GWB with inputs from people like you and people like me. Your vote counts the same as one of those jurors on the OJ trial, just like mine does, and those are the people we try to influence with our ideas. I find it interesting that the two best presidents in recent memory were both in agreement on this issue.
Back to the point. Should we teach in classes something we don't know is true because we believe it is for the good of society?
I think that's what's called propaganda.
Get lost with your dishonesty BS. The only evidence you've given for a global flood is your piece about the adult-juvenile fossil distribution. That's it. If you've got nothing else, don't go crying that others aren't playing fairly.
Get lost with your dishonesty BS. The only evidence you've given for a global flood is your piece about the adult-juvenile fossil distribution. That's it. If you've got nothing else, don't go crying that others aren't playing fairly. I've been civil to you, but I was obviously mistaken.
"Because unlike televangelists and other popular entertainers, scientists such notorious libertines."
I think you meant scientist take such notorious liberties!
"Julian Huxley never said it "
Dr. Kennedy said, "When I heard him say that, I nearly fell out of my chair." Dr. Kennedy was present when Julian Huxley uttered those words.
The web page you referenced is wrong.
"Dr. Kennedy said, "When I heard him say that, I nearly fell out of my chair." Dr. Kennedy was present when Julian Huxley uttered those words. "
Dr. Kennedy was lying. The quote is a gross distortion of an ALDOUS Huxley quote, from a book in 1937. If you read the link completely you would know that.
The facts are there, if you are willing to see them.
I notice in your profile that you are a programmer.
Perhaps you don't realize that each cell of your body contains approximately two meters of DNA. If all the DNA in your body was put end to end, it would reach to the sun and back over 600 times (100 trillion times six feet divided by 92 million miles).
Each length of your DNA comprises some 3.2 billion letters of coding, enough to provide 10 to the power of 3,480,000,000 possible combinations......that's a one followed by more than three billion zeroes.
It would take a person typing 60 words per minute, eight hours a day, around 50 years to type the human genome.
For evolution to have created even the simplest form of life would require that multiple complex systems to have come into existence simultaneously.
Created by an accident? I don't think so. We are fearfully and wonderfully made.
I like buffalo. Especially the ribs. Yum!
I've never had Buffalo ribs but our local Buffalos have evolved wings and they are delicious.
What do you mean he was present? That's a meaningless statement, Everybody alive is present somewhere at all times.
Aldous & Julian were brothers. Here's what Aldous said:
"Aldous Huxley once let the cat out of the bag when he said, in response to a question about the origins of modernism, that it began not in the minds of intellectuals but in their wills: they needed to come up with an intellectual system that would give them permission to behave licentiously. Darwinism serves a similar function: it gives intellectuals permission to think atheistically, as Richard Dawkins noted in his much-cited comment that evolution 'made it possible to be an intellectually satisfied atheist.'"
http://www.edwardtbabinski.us/evolution/aldous_huxley.html
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