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Tide of Lies Swamps NY Times: Employees Riot and Steal Office Supplies
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 1 September 2005 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 09/01/2005 9:23:19 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob

No, this isn’t about Maureen Dowd or Paul Krugman. That’s too easy. It’s about a story on flooding in New Orleans today (1 September). Here’s the lead:

“The 17th Street levee that gave way and led to the flooding of New Orleans was part of an intricate, aging system of barriers and pumps that was so chronically underfinanced that senior regional officials of the Army Corps of Engineers complained about it publicly for years.”

The second and third paragraphs say:

“Often leading the chorus was Alfred C. Naomi, a senior project manager for the corps... [who] grew particularly frustrated this year as the Gulf Coast braced for what forecasters said would be an intense hurricane season and a nearly simultaneous $71 million cut was announced in the New Orleans district budget to guard against such storms.”

Here’s the source: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/national/nationalspecial/01levee.html?hp&ex=1125547200&en=8ee34432ae4fa984&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Not until the ninth paragraph does the story imply (but fail to state) that budget cut – even if the intended work could have been done instantaneously, had nothing to do with the flooding. It quotes an expert “at the University of New Orleans, [who] said that was particularly surprising because the break was ‘along a section that was just upgraded.’ ”

The implication, gleefully trumpeted by rabid Democrats, is that George Bush caused the destruction of New Orleans. Not until paragraph 16 does the article note the system was only designed to protect against a Category 3 storm. It neglects to mention that decision was made by local officials, all Democrats.

For the truth, see a Chicago Tribune article the same day. Its lede says: “The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said Thursday that a lack of funding for hurricane-protection projects around New Orleans did not contribute to the disastrous flooding that followed Hurricane Katrina.”

The Tribune notes the decision to build the levees for a Category 3 storm was “made decades ago.” Next, it says, “ ‘I don't see that the level of funding was really a contributing factor in this case,’ said Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, chief of engineers for the corps. ‘Had this project been fully complete, it is my opinion that based on the intensity of this storm that the flooding of ... [New Orleans] would have still taken place.’ ”

Here’s the source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475305/posts

A competent reporter would have discovered that fact. And honest reporter would have put that fact in or near the lede. The Times failed on both points.

As for possible rioting and theft by Times employees, that was a joke. I assume they steal office supplies year round.

John_Armor@aya.yale.edu


TOPICS: Free Republic; US: Louisiana; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: budgetcuts; chicagotribune; demorattabloid; flooding; georgebush; leveeconstruction; levees; lies; neworleans; nytimes; oldgrayhag; stinkinliars
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I just posted this on Newsbusters. Thought y'all would enjoy seeing it.

John / Billybob

1 posted on 09/01/2005 9:23:33 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob
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To: Congressman Billybob

Did they rehire Jayson Blair?


2 posted on 09/01/2005 9:25:36 PM PDT by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: Congressman Billybob

ROTFLMBO


3 posted on 09/01/2005 9:25:44 PM PDT by aworldtrader
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To: Congressman Billybob
Beat you to it.

Intricate Flood Protection Long a Focus of Dispute

4 posted on 09/01/2005 9:27:35 PM PDT by Conservative Firster
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To: Congressman Billybob

actually, it should be about Krugman in part....he jumped on the bandwagon with both feet in his mouth. Here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475312/posts


5 posted on 09/01/2005 9:31:10 PM PDT by stylin19a (In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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To: Congressman Billybob

Where is Hillary when you need her? </sarcasm>


6 posted on 09/01/2005 9:31:59 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

"All elected democRATS." And Hillary wants to be WHAT!


7 posted on 09/01/2005 9:32:14 PM PDT by Waco
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To: stylin19a
I view attacking Paul Krugman for dishonesty the same as shooting fish in a barrel. It's so easy that it's not sporting. LOL.

John / Billybob
8 posted on 09/01/2005 9:33:37 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (My tagline is on vacation, lying in the hammock with a cold beer.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
As for possible rioting and theft by Times employees, that was a joke. I assume they steal office supplies year round.

LOL!

9 posted on 09/01/2005 9:33:41 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: Congressman Billybob

When Sacramento California, a city of 200,000 that sits at the nexus of two large rivers and is 20' below the water level gets flooded, the situation will be even worse.

The water will be rain and snow runoff because the rivers swell there in the early spring. Sub 50 degrees, it will drown and cause death by hypothermia in minutes.

Tens of thousands will drown.

The flood, caused by aging levees could have been stopped by the construction of the Auburn Dam, a project that started in the 60's, but was stopped by river rafting companies and their allies in the environmental movement and the Democrat party.

When that happens, everyone will say "We saw it coming", they will cite Army Corps of Engineer studies that showed that the only real protection for Sacramento was the Auburn Dam, which was funded and in construction when it was shut down.

Because the rivers won't stop flowing for months, the flooding will be catastrophic, continuous, and unlike New Orleans where the weather is warm right now, it will be freezing cold and hundreds of thousands will be evacuated to nowhere.

Just watch.


10 posted on 09/01/2005 9:34:36 PM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Congressman Billybob
Great article, as usual, John. But...

Its lede says: "The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said Thursday that a lack of funding for hurricane-protection projects around New Orleans did not contribute to the disastrous flooding that followed Hurricane Katrina."

A competent reporter would have discovered that fact. And honest reporter would have put that fact in or near the lede.

lede ???

And ???

I professionally edit and/or proofread for a small fee :)

11 posted on 09/01/2005 9:35:09 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks for your efforts John.

I am reposting your link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475305/posts


12 posted on 09/01/2005 9:36:05 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Waco

the decision to build the levees for a Category 3 storm was “made decades ago.”

I'm blaming FDR and Huey Long who failed to use all those CCC workers to reinforce the levees adequately


13 posted on 09/01/2005 9:36:14 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Congressman Billybob
It quotes an expert at the University of New Orleans, [who] said that was particularly surprising because the break was along a section that was just upgraded.

The implication, gleefully trumpeted by rabid Democrats, is that George Bush caused the destruction of New Orleans. Not until paragraph 16 does the article note the system was only designed to protect against a Category 3 storm. It neglects to mention that decision was made by local officials, all Democrats.

This needs to be screamed from the rooftops.

But don't hold your breath till you see this on CNN.

14 posted on 09/01/2005 9:39:04 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Congressman Billybob

LOL !...Trust me. I understood what you meant. I wasn't sure you had seen Krugman's latest effort, as it is about the flood.. (due out tomorrow - 9/2/05)


15 posted on 09/01/2005 9:42:50 PM PDT by stylin19a (In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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To: Congressman Billybob
Just highlighting this....

"Not until the ninth paragraph does the story imply (but fail to state) that budget cut – even if the intended work could have been done instantaneously, had nothing to do with the flooding. It quotes an expert “at the University of New Orleans, [who] said that was particularly surprising because the break was ‘along a section that was just upgraded.’ ”

16 posted on 09/01/2005 9:48:37 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Our military......the world's HEROES!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I just posted this on Newsbusters. Thought y'all would enjoy seeing it.

That's good information thanx. The rats still think they can win the propaganda war with the MSM. It's stuff like this that proves to Americans that the MSM is liberal and full of liars.

17 posted on 09/01/2005 9:49:32 PM PDT by Once-Ler (14 months til Byrd is ousted from office, and Kennedy ain't getin younger)
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To: Congressman Billybob

**The implication, gleefully trumpeted by rabid Democrats, is that George Bush caused the destruction of New Orleans**

I heard Mary Landrieu mouthing this a couple days ago. Sickening.


18 posted on 09/01/2005 9:52:40 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: upchuck

lede-The first paragraph of a newspaper story. It should contain the most important information.


19 posted on 09/01/2005 10:03:33 PM PDT by elli1
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To: upchuck
Come on,stop being a ninny! ;)
20 posted on 09/01/2005 10:10:04 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: konaice

This is just a simple matter of cultural misunderstanding. Liberals are public scruel products, and therefore think that the word 'upgraded' means weakened.

It's just a simple cultural misunderstanding. ;-)


21 posted on 09/01/2005 10:24:15 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: quantim
She will be in her rightful place when we are all done with her!

Greetings from all of us at FlushHillary.com

22 posted on 09/01/2005 10:26:08 PM PDT by Stayfree (Greetings from all of us at FlushHillary.com!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
A little levity to break the funk??? Good job.

Some BACKGROUND.

FGS

23 posted on 09/01/2005 10:36:25 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

It's a great article...love seeing a little sanity finally taking place amid all the other crap.


24 posted on 09/01/2005 10:37:36 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I just posted this on Newsbusters. Thought y'all would enjoy seeing it.

I did! Thanks Congressman.

25 posted on 09/01/2005 10:50:48 PM PDT by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I CAN Face Tomorrow)
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To: upchuck
The "and" is a mistake. It should have been "An." However, the word "lede" is now accepted usage for the first paragraph of any story. The former word "lead" could be misread as the heavy dull metal. Hence the new usage (which I only decided to use after checking with a couple grammarians last week).

John / Billybob
26 posted on 09/01/2005 10:51:24 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (My tagline is on vacation, lying in the hammock with a cold beer.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Not until the ninth paragraph does the story imply (but fail to state) that budget cut – even if the intended work could have been done instantaneously, had nothing to do with the flooding.

Evidently the article wasn't very clear in explaining that the Band-Aid "upgrading" of levees wasn't the whole fix, and that the parts of the system that were not funded were also important. The drainage portions were not completed.

So yes, proper funding and preparation could have helped. But...the question is, why should the Feds be on the hook for this? What contribution did LA and NO make?

Interesting articles:
"THE CREEPING STORM"
(June 2003, Civil Engineering Magazine)

"Reengineering the Mississippi"
(July 2004, Civil Engineering Magazine)


ASCE Policy Statement 498: Louisiana Coastal Wetlands

On May 3, 2003, ASCE's Board of Direction adopted a policy statement declaring its support for the “ efforts to reduce coastal land loss in the Louisiana coastal area, an area that has been named America's Wetland because of its national importance.” The statement urged continued support of the existing program for Louisiana's coastal wetlands funded by the 1990 Coastal Wetland Planning, Protection, and Restoration Act. It also endorsed “ the ongoing effort to implement the comprehensive Louisiana Coastal Area (LCA) Program, which will further reduce land loss and provide additional preservation and restoration.” In support of this policy, the statement noted the following:


27 posted on 09/01/2005 10:54:54 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Another good one.

If you like - try having a little fun with this P.C. take on looting & looters...see my tagline... :)
28 posted on 09/01/2005 10:56:01 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Looters: undocumented consumers || Looting: purchases with indefinite deferred payment plans)
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To: GladesGuru

If it is the scientist I suspect (a geomorphologist at New Orleans) then she's from the UK.


29 posted on 09/01/2005 10:56:28 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Nice job. It must be repeatedly pointed out that the NY Times and certain other papers/TV stations repeat a tired pattern of seeing the news for each day and blaming President Bush for everything bad while claiming that everything good either isn't really good, isn't as good as it could be due to President Bush, or is due to someone else entirely.

For the NY Slimes, everything is politicized and viewed through ideological lenses. That's not news reporting, that's cheerleading for Socialists by rabid Leftists. Propriety is absent from the NY Times. It's gone.

The staff at the NY Times is so radicalized that they even ran off their own left-wing ombudsman (Daniel Okrent), a feat in and of itself (he couldn't take their overt non-objectivity).

Newspapers and TV networks should be accredited by a democratically elected national organization of term-limited citizens.

No doubt that the NY Times would fail to keep, if obtain in the first place, any fair-minded accreditation.

That shouldn't shut the paper down, but they should have to list their lack of accreditation on each front page every day.

30 posted on 09/01/2005 11:07:59 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Congressman Billybob

I'd be curious to see how much money has been sent to Lousiana the past decades for "hurricane protection" and where that money really went. Nice job.


31 posted on 09/01/2005 11:54:27 PM PDT by Troublemaker
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To: Congressman Billybob
I saw a clip on TV the other night; some chick interviewing one of the Engineers of that Levee. He said it had been designed to withstand a CAT 3. She immediately went after him: "Don't you think NOW that you should have made it stronger?" (Like it was his fault as coming from "Mother Dearest")

This guy was unflappable, he did very well, he responded by saying that in consideration of all known history of hurricane activity in LA and cost/benefit ratios -- designing the levee to withstand a CAT 3 was given unanimous approval.

Camera panned to her self-righteous mug. I turned the tv off.

32 posted on 09/02/2005 4:00:19 AM PDT by Alia
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33 posted on 09/02/2005 4:01:17 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Congressman Billybob

A thorough report on the danger to NO because of its inadequate levee system landed on the president's desk and was ignored. The year was 1998. The president was William Jefferson Clinton. The NYT must have failed to include that information in it's daily rant against Pres. Bush. Who would buy this rag except DUmmies?


34 posted on 09/02/2005 4:08:09 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Congressman Billybob
However, the word "lede" is now accepted usage for the first paragraph of any story. The former word "lead" could be misread as the heavy dull metal. Hence the new usage (which I only decided to use after checking with a couple grammarians last week).

Then you should keep your affectations more consistent. Your lede graf says "lead"... :-)

35 posted on 09/02/2005 4:29:21 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Alia
From: Clinton's Rule on Levees

Quoted here:

To emphasize the correctness in saying that politics will make big decisions like this, recall this HISTORICAL FACT!

In 1998, the DoD and the US Army Corps of Engineers drafted a document detailing the fact that New Orleans was protected by levees which were designed to protect N.O. from a LEVEL 3 hurricane. These groups wanted to go into N.O. and assess what needed to be done to improve the levees to at least withstand a LEVEL 4 OR 5 hurricane.

This serious request and supporting information was deemed highly necessary to protect N.O. and was presented in full to the President of the United States for approval of this critical project.

THE REQUEST WAS DENIED BY WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON. For those interested in the details, they are available in the FEDERAL REGISTER as a matter of permanent record.

So, how many more deaths do we attribute to this horrid excuse for a criminal, negligent, incompetent excuse for a human being ???

In summary, politics in critical situations, usually costs lives, it always has.

----

Liberals live by the "blame game". It's what they do, in all situations.

36 posted on 09/02/2005 4:43:07 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Gondring
Yes, I know. As my uncle who was a publisher told me long ago, "The best time to find a typographical error is immediately after a book has gone to press." The same applies to the Internet, in the nanosecond right after you click the "Submit" button.

John / Billybob
37 posted on 09/02/2005 5:01:24 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (My tagline is on vacation, lying in the hammock with a cold beer.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Thanks for the education CBB. The use of "lead" in the first sentence confused me.


38 posted on 09/02/2005 5:39:02 AM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Congressman Billybob

ping for later read


39 posted on 09/02/2005 6:28:59 AM PDT by Uncle Donuts (The sooner I can leave N. Va., the better.)
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bump for later read...


40 posted on 09/02/2005 7:32:30 AM PDT by eureka! (Hey Lefties: Only 3 and 1/3 more years of W. Hehehehe....)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Yes, I know. As my uncle who was a publisher told me long ago, "The best time to find a typographical error is immediately after a book has gone to press." The same applies to the Internet, in the nanosecond right after you click the "Submit" button.

Hehehe...exactly right! It's absolutely amazing. I am a scientist now, formerly a newspaper editor, and I admit nearly reaching into the realm of pseudoscience to explain the absolute impossibility of catching every typo prior to press. There's some dark magic about that fact...some ancient curse, I swear!

BTW, if you don't use it, you lose it. I think my staff would be appalled to see my writing now--not that editors ever COULD write!

41 posted on 09/02/2005 8:18:39 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: gusopol3

I think we should start blaming Thomas Jefferson. He should have spent money for the levees instead of sending Lewis & Clark out west.


42 posted on 09/02/2005 12:48:19 PM PDT by teacherwoes (If you can read this...thank a caring teacher)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Brother Billybob, you need to visit this forum and give 'em hell for a while. the "romper room" gang
43 posted on 09/02/2005 4:28:47 PM PDT by Desert_Girl (teach Africa to fish)
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To: quantim; Congressman Billybob; doug from upland; Mia T; NYTexan; bitt; speedy; Howlin; Boazo; ...

"Where is Hillary when you need her? </sarcasm>"


You're confusing levees with dykes....


44 posted on 09/02/2005 5:37:17 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (SAVE THE BRAINFOREST! Boycott the RED Dead Tree Media & NUKE the DNC Class Action Temper Tantrum!)
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To: teacherwoes

maybe that's why he's slipping off the edge of the new nickel


45 posted on 09/02/2005 6:15:00 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: Congressman Billybob

bookmark


46 posted on 09/02/2005 7:11:54 PM PDT by Big Giant Head (I should change my tagline to "Big Giant Pancake on my Head")
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To: Congressman Billybob
Thank God for you!! and others, who can shed some humor while shedding light on these immoral "journalists? LOL

In addition the levees did not break where they were vulnerable. I would also add that the Gov of LA did not get her guard in place, and did not call for assistance and to let feds know it was that bad, and when she finally did, it was too late.
47 posted on 09/02/2005 8:03:14 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Alia

Available in the Federal Register under what title,
heading, or document number, etc?


48 posted on 09/02/2005 10:07:00 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: Congressman Billybob
...in the nanosecond right after you click the "Submit" button.

That brief period of time is also known as an 'oh-no-second'. :=)

49 posted on 09/02/2005 10:17:46 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Congressman Billybob

It's all well and good to point this out - but it so doesn't matter. It's attempting to reason with rabid animals. As someone who's basically atheist/agnostic, I'm wondering if we've become so secular that we've simply lost touch with the concept of fate and misfortune. There's not always someone to blame for every bad thing that happens.


50 posted on 09/02/2005 10:21:08 PM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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