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IEEE-USA LEGISLATIVE ACTION ALERT...PA
IEEE-USA ^ | Sept 2,2005 | dat mon

Posted on 09/02/2005 1:40:24 PM PDT by Dat Mon

PA CARE Members:

IEEE-USA has just posted an informative Action Alert on HB 1920, introduced into the Pennsylvania House of Representatives earlier this year. This bill is an attempt to reform your state's sales tax to provide funds for the state's local primary and secondary schools. One of the consequences of the bill would be the imposition of a 5% sales tax on engineers within Pennsylvania.

IEEE-USA has not taken a position on the bill because we usually do not take positions on state legislation. However, it is going to impact our PA members, so we wanted you to know about it.

IEEE Members who are interested in the bill can access IEEE-USA's Legislative Action Center here: https://www.capitolconnect.com/ieee. Access the site by using your IEEE Web Account login. The Action Alert is titled "PA Tax Reform To Impact Engineers" under "Current Issues."

If you feel IEEE-USA should be more active on this bill, or if you have questions about it, please contact me.

Thank you.

Russell T. Harrison Legislative Representative - Grassroots Affairs IEEE-USA (202) 530-8326


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Technical; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: economy; engineering; ieee; pa; technology
All members of IEEE in PA or anyone who hates big creeping tax and spend government, please contact your legislative rep in PA and fight this proposal. Here in PA we have some of the highest business and personal income taxes, sales taxes, business insurance, health insurance, auto insurance. Business is fleeing the state...and yet here we are again killing the emaciated golden goose of technology.
1 posted on 09/02/2005 1:40:24 PM PDT by Dat Mon
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To: Dat Mon

The similarities to Atlas Shrugged are uncanny.


2 posted on 09/02/2005 1:48:52 PM PDT by wolfpat (The world is upside down when Snoop Dogg is selling cars.)
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To: Dat Mon
One of the consequences of the bill would be the imposition of a 5% sales tax on engineers within Pennsylvania.

Huh?

3 posted on 09/02/2005 1:55:32 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: Dat Mon

The list of reasons to get the hell out of PA just got longer!! ;-)


4 posted on 09/02/2005 1:56:19 PM PDT by No_Doll_i
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To: No_Doll_i

You aint kiddin doll!!!!


5 posted on 09/02/2005 1:57:44 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: sionnsar

My response entirely.

Just got this...havent checked out the details...but it sounds like a total mess whatever they are.


6 posted on 09/02/2005 1:59:01 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Dat Mon

I don't understand. What is that tax on?


7 posted on 09/02/2005 1:59:43 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: sionnsar

Apparently any goods or services provided by an engineer...who knows?


8 posted on 09/02/2005 2:01:17 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Dat Mon

Okay. Whatever it is, I'm glad I don't live or work in PA. If there's somebody needing taxing in PA, it's their legislators. But then again, it sounds like they're over-taxed already trying to do their job correctly.


9 posted on 09/02/2005 2:01:50 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: Dat Mon

Punish engineers and the engineers will leave.


10 posted on 09/02/2005 2:02:00 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: DB
You know, one of my employer's big competitors is in PA. Hmmm.. maybe I should support this....

(not)

11 posted on 09/02/2005 2:03:19 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: DB

You bet.

People on this site may be sick of my rants on technology and engineering...but this kind of crap here shows you what we in the profession who also own businesses or do consulting face.

To me...it shows a total contempt and disregard for engineering and technology.

No politician would ever suggest taxing lawyers, or guys who cut lawns, or teamsters, or teachers, or heaven forbid...government workers!


12 posted on 09/02/2005 2:06:20 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: indthkr

Get a load of this ...mon.


13 posted on 09/02/2005 2:09:49 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Dat Mon

It is simply stupid.

But that's okay. If they want to continue to destroy their technology base let them.

Now taxing lawyers... Hmmm... That's more like putting out shark repellent... That puts serious conflict in my principles...


14 posted on 09/02/2005 2:11:01 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Willie Green

Get a load of this ...mon


15 posted on 09/02/2005 2:12:38 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Dat Mon

Amazing, a tax on engineers.

What are the politicans in PA smoking?


16 posted on 09/02/2005 3:53:06 PM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (Lunatic Fringe. We all know you're out there...)
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To: Dat Mon

Amazing, a tax on engineers.

What are the politicans in PA smoking?


17 posted on 09/02/2005 3:55:04 PM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (Lunatic Fringe. We all know you're out there...)
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To: Dat Mon
I JUST PAID ALMOST $1,100.00 FOR SCHOOL TAXES!

The PA State Legislature is out of control!

18 posted on 09/02/2005 3:57:39 PM PDT by airborne
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To: Dat Mon

Apparently any goods or services provided by an engineer...who knows?


It's the same thing in New Mexico, except worse. You pay sales tax on everything, including dentist bills.

Texas does charge sales taxes on drafting (including drawings generated by CAD), but only if the drawing is being done if contracted out. However if I am given a sketch and told to design it to make it work, then some engineering time is included (which is hard to separate out when I am on the CAD - yes an engineer that works with AutoCAD).


19 posted on 09/02/2005 4:05:05 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: airborne

And way way OVERPAID !!!!!!!!


20 posted on 09/02/2005 4:09:10 PM PDT by unojook
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To: unojook
Well, it looks like the fine folks of PA agree. The lawsuit against the pay raise is going to shake the foundations!

And a lot of politicians are going to give up the raise, or give up the job.

21 posted on 09/02/2005 5:16:48 PM PDT by airborne
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To: Dat Mon
Mindboggling.

At the same time PA is supposedly trying to establish itself as a major nanotech development center in the U.S. Hopefully, any potential entreprenures will read the fine print in state law.

If anything, the situation should be completely reversed. If a state really wants to spur tech, they should give income tax breaks to people who do engineering (not their companies). I would add the caveat that the people getting the tax breaks be U.S. citizens.

Taxes should be increased on people/workers whose work output is zero-sum and not subject to international competition (lawyers principally).
22 posted on 09/02/2005 8:58:11 PM PDT by indthkr
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