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Nagin's Failure
Bill Hobbs ^ | September 2, 2005 | Bill Hobbs

Posted on 09/02/2005 8:01:12 PM PDT by george76

Edited on 09/02/2005 8:06:13 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

This AP photo shows scores of New Orleans school buses sitting in flood waters after Hurricane Katrina - sitting where they sat instead of being used to evacuate thousands of poor people before Katrina hit.

Why are scores of school buses sitting in the flood waters of New Orleans today? Blame New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, who is one reason things have gotten worse, not better, in his stricken city since it was hit by Hurricane Katrina. His laissez faire approach to looting allowed the looters to become increasingly armed and violent, interrupting rescue and recovery operations.

But even before Katrina hit, he failed his poorest citizens horribly. He told them to evacuate the city - and then gave his city's poorest residence no way to do so.

Nagin lashed out at federal officials yesterday for the government's relief efforts, pleading for the government to round up "500 buses" to send to New Orleans to evacuate survivors.

But Nagin, who ordered a mandatory evacuation of New Orleans before Katrina hit, ought to be made to answer this question: Where are the buses of the New Orleans Regional Transit Authority? Under water? Destroyed? Why?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: hurricane; katrina; nagin; neworleans
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1 posted on 09/02/2005 8:01:12 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

Buses sitting in Lake Nagin


2 posted on 09/02/2005 8:03:13 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: george76

His laissez faire approach to looting allowed the looters to become increasingly armed and violent, interrupting rescue and recovery operations.
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You elect a scumbag, you get scumbag behavior and performance. There are no free lunches. The voters of N.O. should look a bit closer AT WHAT they put into the mayor's office.


3 posted on 09/02/2005 8:03:20 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: george76

Do you think the MSM is finally catching on?


4 posted on 09/02/2005 8:03:48 PM PDT by Arkie2 (Mega super duper moose, whine, cheese, series, zot, viking kitties, barf alert!)
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To: george76
His laissez faire approach to looting allowed the looters to become increasingly armed and violent, interrupting rescue and recovery operations.

Hmmm...this seems like a rather odd usage of the phrase...

5 posted on 09/02/2005 8:04:08 PM PDT by zahal724 (We use words to describe things. If it confuses you I suggest a Dictionary.)
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To: george76
Ain't that the truth!

He's a lowdown liberal who now lashes out at others trying to pick up the pieces. He made a colossal mess of things. God only knows how many died because of his arrogant stupidity.
6 posted on 09/02/2005 8:04:14 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: george76

Here's the thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475574/posts


7 posted on 09/02/2005 8:05:11 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Arkie2

No. This is not an AP story. It only references a photo of some flooded school buses.


8 posted on 09/02/2005 8:05:21 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: george76

Oops. Sorry, I thought this was an MSM story. For a moment there I was hopeful.


9 posted on 09/02/2005 8:05:50 PM PDT by Arkie2 (Mega super duper moose, whine, cheese, series, zot, viking kitties, barf alert!)
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10 posted on 09/02/2005 8:06:12 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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12 posted on 09/02/2005 8:06:25 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: george76
This will be buried in about two hours won't get much play cause it doesn't fit in with the MSM and FNC view of the NOLA failure to act.
13 posted on 09/02/2005 8:06:37 PM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: zahal724

He's corrupt and winks at crime on normal days so in days of desperate people ... he's not going to change course.


14 posted on 09/02/2005 8:08:19 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: dts32041

It's gotten plenty of play today. And I sent it to Brit hume.

Probably on five or six threads.


15 posted on 09/02/2005 8:08:35 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Arkie2
Do you think the MSM is finally catching on?

That they had better start covering for incompetant Democrats that were actually in charge of the area? Yeah, I think they've been on to that one since the day of the levee break.

16 posted on 09/02/2005 8:09:00 PM PDT by MichiganMan (Thank Michael Moore for 2004!!)
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To: george76

Don't ever ever ever ever put a RAT in charge of ANYTHING! They'll swear to it too!


17 posted on 09/02/2005 8:09:19 PM PDT by Waco
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To: george76
Where are the buses of the New Orleans Regional Transit Authority?

The buses appear to be school buses, not part of the RTA system.

They obviously should have been made available, but when dissing your opponent, being factual is important.

18 posted on 09/02/2005 8:09:29 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Salvation
Yeah good old Brit where has he been for the past couple of days looks like he took a long weekend after his vacation.
19 posted on 09/02/2005 8:11:22 PM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: Salvation

Nigan should be put on suicide watch. To hear from O'reilly about the 80 seniors in the nursing home who died was hard. Deriliction of duty.


20 posted on 09/02/2005 8:11:56 PM PDT by swheats
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To: george76

Oh yeah. The same Nagin who quietly slipped about 400 residents of the Ritz Carlton past the lowly sick and starving peons who've been awaiting transportation to safety for five days.

Yet they'll reelect him. You see, he has the GOLDEN D after his name!

They're all blaming Bush. It makes me sick that they're sooo ignorant!


21 posted on 09/02/2005 8:12:21 PM PDT by Humidston (It's Bush's fault)
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To: Dane

I counted roughtly 200 bus's times 40 people

8000 could have gotten out in one trip


22 posted on 09/02/2005 8:12:47 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the beeber)
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To: swheats

I had not heard about that. Is there a thread you can link?


23 posted on 09/02/2005 8:13:13 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

I'll see what I can find. Just heard it on the replay of O'Reilly.


24 posted on 09/02/2005 8:14:10 PM PDT by swheats
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To: finnman69
Lake Nagin

That's a good one!!

25 posted on 09/02/2005 8:14:40 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Echo Talon

Photo in New Websters Dictionary for the definition of...

"Coward"


26 posted on 09/02/2005 8:14:46 PM PDT by Shadow V (EVER FOWARD)
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To: Salvation
This photo should be tattooed to Nagin's forehead...

This will be the standard reply I'd present to all presstitutes and others who carry the water (make excuses for DUmocrats) when the subject is to blame Bush for all:

The nanny state/welfare mentality - it's always someone else's job. What part of MANDITORY EVACUATION do these fools in the media not get? The people on the coast were warned, told to leave, and chose to stick it out thereby endangered themselves and their families. That would be considered neglect when parents put their children in danger.

The Governor and Mayor's extreme ineptitude is what the bozos in the lame-steam media should be focused on. It was their job to prepare their constituents, NOT the federal government. There was ample time to prepare, and most responsible adults took to the road for safety. Yet all that was offered on the state level was another poor evacuation plan from the dimwit dimocrats. Either using "one way out" stuck in traffic or holing up in the dome, what choices!

Before the storm, they could have used all the school & city buses to evacuate those who couldn't make it on their own to higher ground further inland. But they chose weakness in the face of real danger instead.

After the storm, all resources were put at their disposal, yet they delayed making the request as well as delayed the delivery when aid arrived. Martial Law was declared and yet they still sat on their hands allowing lawlessness to erupt. Neither can handle their jobs, yet refuse to step aside and allow someone else to handle it.

If President Bush hadn't announced the evacuation order, there would be more loss and suffering, mainly due to the clueless Democrats who failed to do anything - who, by the way, have been in charge of that state long before Bush ran for office.

When you have your hand extended, you shouldn't b!tch about getting aid when you were told to prepare for 3-5 days of food and water. When it comes to your family's safety, waiting on government to solve your problems is no better than waiting on a welfare check instead of getting off your arse and finding work.

But I guess wading around in sewage and griping about it is a much more pleasing alternative if you always pull the "D" lever when it's time to elect leadership. The failure of a democrat-led state is why the media is out in force trying to point fingers at Bush, when they all know the reality of the situation...their own failures cause many more to die than would have if they hadn't been slow to react.

27 posted on 09/02/2005 8:14:48 PM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: Arkie2
Do you think the MSM is finally catching on?

FFC. (they may know, but it's still a "FFC" they'll disseminate their newfound wisdom)

28 posted on 09/02/2005 8:15:02 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Cindy, ya shoulda stuck with "offshore drilling" as your cause)
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To: dts32041

I figure he's the head of the news team and has a lot to say about what kind of coverage gets broadcast.

I'm thinking he let Special Report go for the last half of this week so that he can be on board with it when the Senate starts with the Roberts' hearings.

(Just my reasoing FWIW.


29 posted on 09/02/2005 8:15:07 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: george76

Greta interviewed a kid who stole a working school bus, stuffed it with 80 suffering people--the old, infirm--and drove them to the Houston Astrodome. He'd never driven before.


30 posted on 09/02/2005 8:15:42 PM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: nmh
God only knows how many died because of his arrogant stupidity.

Or just plain evil within him.

31 posted on 09/02/2005 8:15:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Dog Gone

Another good question to ask mr naggin.


32 posted on 09/02/2005 8:16:07 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: swheats

That WAS an accidental misspelling of his name, I hope.


33 posted on 09/02/2005 8:17:01 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Dog Gone

Even if they are school buses he could have commandeered them for the busing of New Orleans' residents out of the town before Katrina hit.

Good point about the municpal fleet, though. I'll bet they are underwater too!

Poor planning on the part of the city of New Orleans.


34 posted on 09/02/2005 8:17:33 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Echo Talon

Excellent....I've (errr, ummm) lent that one out for a few minutes.


35 posted on 09/02/2005 8:18:17 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Cindy, ya shoulda stuck with "offshore drilling" as your cause)
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To: george76

In addition to the city's transit and school buses, they also had access to the city's fleet of cars, vans, and trucks that are used by their various departments. First response starts at the local level and that means Nagin.


36 posted on 09/02/2005 8:19:11 PM PDT by Venerable Bede
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To: Arkie2

yup , they're catching on to the fact that promoting the poisonous worst aspects of the racial component to this unfolding story will get them viewers[ratings] , I'm disgusted,... I see it building and the air isn't being let out,YET!! They'll play this for as long as they can


37 posted on 09/02/2005 8:20:48 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: fhayek

of course who proofreeds anymoore


38 posted on 09/02/2005 8:20:56 PM PDT by swheats
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To: george76

Nagin, like most urban "leaders", are in way over their heads. Of course it doesn't show until something like this happens.


39 posted on 09/02/2005 8:21:34 PM PDT by ILS21R (The Constitution is a living document (Bush/Cheney '08))
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To: finnman69

Gretta VanSus... had a 17 year old boy on her show tonight who stole one of those buses. He'd never driven a bus before. In desperation, he broke into the yard, found the keys, and took the bus downtown NO where he picked up 80 people. He then drove them to the refugee center in Houston. For gas money, they all pooled whatever cash they had in their pockets.

Now if he did it, seems to me that ALL those buses could have been used, moving at least 8000 people (100 buses).

What a story!!!!


40 posted on 09/02/2005 8:21:48 PM PDT by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: Indy Pendance
HERE'S THE FIRST STORY. We appreciate Drudge paying attention to FreeRepublic, the number one website in unique hits.

FReeper hole_n_one was the first one to find the photo and post it on FR.

41 posted on 09/02/2005 8:22:33 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: dts32041
it doesn't fit in with the MSM and FNC view of the NOLA failure to act.

FOX is full of drama queens these past few days...but Bill-O and the newly arrived Geraldo must be going the fast-track route for some sort of Pulitzer or Emmy or sumpin; delusional to say the least.


42 posted on 09/02/2005 8:23:00 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Cindy, ya shoulda stuck with "offshore drilling" as your cause)
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To: Arkie2

Have you seen any headlines about the Gov or the Mayor?

The LA Times has one on Barbour. What?


43 posted on 09/02/2005 8:23:14 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: al baby

Most school buses, like those in the photo, are 55-pax, so 11,000 people. If he started at the 72 hour point, and made a run every 12 hours, we're talking 55 to 66,000 people evacuated before landfall. Add a few more per busload if you had people sitting in the aisle, or on stretcher there.


44 posted on 09/02/2005 8:23:34 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: george76
I just got off the phone with a person in N.O. and she said before they storm they were driving around on buses with megaphones telling people to get on the buses and most did not.
But they did not "force" anybody to leave and they took "NO" for an answer.
45 posted on 09/02/2005 8:23:53 PM PDT by msnimje (TAKE CNN OFF YOUR REMOTE - THEY ARE THE ENEMY OF THE US)
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To: CommandoFrank

That kid has the can-do, never-say-die spirit that made America great. Kid has to be a republican.


46 posted on 09/02/2005 8:23:54 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Salvation

Nagin had a plan for evacuation. Here it is on the NOLA website:



http://www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx?portal=46&tabid=16

Browse around the site and see how prepared they were.


47 posted on 09/02/2005 8:23:58 PM PDT by Roccus (Able Danger? What's an Able Danger?)
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To: dts32041

It is being mentioned on talk radio. The story will not stop.


48 posted on 09/02/2005 8:24:24 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Arkie2
Sorry if my post was not the best.

I was trying to give proper credit to AP for the picture and then to Bill Hobbs for the writing.

I think I also forgot to check excerpt.

My bad.
49 posted on 09/02/2005 8:24:24 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: MarMema
his arrogant stupidity

Can a public official be charged with negligent manslaughter?

50 posted on 09/02/2005 8:25:36 PM PDT by Peelod (Decentia est fragilis. Curatoribus validis indiget.)
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