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Congress Likely to Probe Guard Delay
AP ^ | 09/03/2005 | SHARON THEIMER

Posted on 09/03/2005 7:19:37 AM PDT by Truthsayer20

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To: YaYa123

"Did you see this?

"The state hurricane control center runs the entire operation. The LA governor delayed until Monday setting up her control center and did not hand out satellite phones to all the parrish control centers . so no communication to the key parrish in the south part of LA.
I should know I am involved in the hurricane operations in Brevard county FL. The marching orders come from the state capital not the feds!
We evacuated nursing home patients for katrina and the storm was 200 miles away !
The scoop I heard from FL officials was LA
governor's office was in inexperienced and in over there heads."

Yes, Ma'am. And it needs to be repeated.


81 posted on 09/03/2005 10:32:26 AM PDT by SuzanneC
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To: YaYa123
And any congressional investigation will be designed to cover it up.

Of course, you're leaving out the part where they all are going to use this for their 2006 and 2008 campaigns, right?

S**THeads.

82 posted on 09/03/2005 10:34:39 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

" The President commands the NG. Period. "

Governor Blanco commands the Louisiana National Guard.
Blanco is a scary preview of Hillary Clinton as Commander in Chief.


83 posted on 09/03/2005 10:35:25 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Getsmart64
And, hind sight is 20/20. It took quite awhile to figure out what happened and how to deal with it.

Actually the National Weather Service declared Sunday morning what would happen when Katrina hit and they were totally right. This wasn't a case of bad intel. Bush declared an emergency Saturday. I'm suggesting that given the intel and the fact that Bush recognized the threat was imminent, that he didn't have a plan ready to activate as soon as Katrina hit, or that he decided not to activate it, which is odd since he knew the maroons he was dealing with in Nagin and Blanco, especially with the scope of the damage that would occur.

84 posted on 09/03/2005 10:36:09 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: McGavin999
Oh yes, let's start a civilian airlift before the airports have been inspected for storm damage.

Better yet, let's send all the planes and the NG and all the supplies in BEFORE the storm.

Then they could have been trapped, too!

85 posted on 09/03/2005 10:37:31 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: GatorGirl
Florida is down with hurricane preparedness.

So is North Carolina; and we sure don't go looking for the president OR FEMA until AFTER the storm.

86 posted on 09/03/2005 10:38:31 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: tarheelswamprat; Darksheare
Look, this entire situation borders on the ridiculous.

Let's assume that Governor Blanco was for one reason or another unable to act and coordinate the request for New Mexico NG federalization with NM Governor. Meanwhile, anyone watching CNN early wednesday saw people dehydrating on the streets of New Orleans and city descending into chaos. The White House was surely aware of what was happening. Couldn't the White House have a fricking telephone call with the governors down in Louisiana, New Mexico etc. and agree with them to federalize the necessary NG units and send them their way?

If it turns out that the bumbling idiots at state and federal levels couldn't have the fricking paperwork put in order IMMEDIATELY, and this was the reason for the delay in troop deployment, well, I don't know what to say.

I'm not necessarily interested in whose 'fault' the situation was, I'm only commenting on the evident inablity of the government to get even the simplest things done in a common sense manner.

The hard part about handling natural disasters should be logistics and similar things not the inability of the top-level decision makers to push the god-d*mn button on time!

87 posted on 09/03/2005 10:39:23 AM PDT by Truthsayer20
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To: libsl

Bump.


88 posted on 09/03/2005 10:40:54 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Libertarian444
Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., said the situation has shown major breakdowns in the nation's emergency response capabilities. "There must be some accountability in this process after the crisis is addressed," he said.

I am sick to DEATH of this A$$hole.

You mark this down: I will NEVER -- EVER -- under ANY circumstances vote for this man; if he is the nominee in 2008, I simply will leave that space blank.

89 posted on 09/03/2005 10:42:02 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Darksheare
When not activated for war, the governor acts as the commander of troops in his or her state.

or national emergency.

He could have formally declared one.

90 posted on 09/03/2005 10:43:11 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: BurtTpa
The scoop I heard from FL officials was LA governor's office was in inexperienced and in over there heads.

I agree

They also didn't have the brains to ask for help until it was too late

91 posted on 09/03/2005 10:43:57 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: SuzanneC; YaYa123

One of the things we have going on here is that the people who are pontificating about HOW LONG IT TOOk, and I do mean those on this forum, are not in states that have ever dealt with a hurricane!


92 posted on 09/03/2005 10:43:57 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Truthsayer20

Hmmm. The Dems may not want to 'GO THERE'. They might not like what they find at the end of that road.


93 posted on 09/03/2005 10:49:06 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: GraniteStateConservative

OK..you win...it's Bush's fault...sheesh...


94 posted on 09/03/2005 10:49:36 AM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Gov. Rendell, who just successfully sued the feds arguing that PA's National Guard troops are his, would disagree with you, although he probably won't be saying much because that would damage the case against Pres. Bush.


95 posted on 09/03/2005 10:49:37 AM PDT by michaelt
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To: Truthsayer20

Loiusiana has national guard units, but they seem to be conspicuously absent.

In playing the blame game, why don't we first look at why the LA Gov did not activate her own troops and position them in place BEFORE the storm?

And then there are the demanding ungrateful b@stards who don't appreciate what is being done for them.


96 posted on 09/03/2005 10:50:15 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Liberalism is an ill fated luxury that we cannot afford at this time; it does not work in a crisis.)
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To: Truthsayer20; Darksheare
If it turns out that the bumbling idiots at state and federal levels couldn't have the fricking paperwork put in order IMMEDIATELY, and this was the reason for the delay in troop deployment, well, I don't know what to say.

You can't blame this on "paperwork" - any necessary documentation could be handled in good time, as circumstances permitted. All that was necessary was for Governor Blanco to call President Bush and say: "Mr. President, as Governor of Louisiana I hereby authorize and request that you provide federal National Guard assistance to Louisiana." That's it.

97 posted on 09/03/2005 10:52:12 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: Fishtalk
"Dear Lord, I just want the TRUTH."

The truth is New Orleans for whatever reason allowed a large degenerate criminal subculture to live there. This large degenerate criminal subculture stopped massive volunteer relief efforts that would have greatly reduced the suffering in New Orleans days ago and mitigated the need for a huge national guard law enforcement presence. That was unexpected by all levels of government but should have been anticipated by local level (at least). Katrina was bad, but the degenerate gangsta subculture is making things much much worse and that was not planned for. Planners will do doubt revise their plans.

98 posted on 09/03/2005 10:52:57 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: mystery-ak

That is not the way it happened in Little Rock.

Ike sent in the 101st AND federalized the guard. The 101st left after a while and the FEDERALIZED guard took over police actions for the rest of the school year.


99 posted on 09/03/2005 10:53:09 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: michaelt
Gov. Rendell, who just successfully sued the feds arguing that PA's National Guard troops are his, would disagree with you, although he probably won't be saying much because that would damage the case against Pres. Bush.

Knowing Fast Eddy ... he'll figure a way to attack the President

100 posted on 09/03/2005 10:54:36 AM PDT by Mo1
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