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Benicia paramedic pitched in (First person account from MS -- bodies in trees and on beach)
Times-Herald (CA) ^ | Sept 2, 2005 | RACHEL RASKIN-ZRIHEN

Posted on 09/03/2005 10:07:13 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor

Paramedic Patrick Keathley of Benicia happened to be in New Orleans with seven colleagues for an industry convention as a small storm called Katrina, off the coast of Florida, changed course and picked up steam.

"We didn't realize the storm was going to be as big as it was, or that it would turn and hit Louisiana," Keathley said.

"By the time we did, we couldn't get a rental car, even though we had one reserved, because everyone was fleeing," he said by rapidly dying cell phone as he made his way back to California.

The eight paramedics were forced to ride out the storm in their hotel on the Louisiana coast.

"It was like hell," Keathley said. "Completely black. We heard structural-sounding noises, and we went out to take a look and we saw debris flying. Palm trees."

Keathley said the men barricaded themselves with about 40 others inside the hotel for 12 hours as the storm raged around them.

"We thought we were going to die. And that was before the water started rising. We got out before the flooding, just as the city started to flood," Keathley said. "We met this little old lady with a car who wanted to go to Lafayette. So we piled into her VW and drove her there."

The men rented a car in Lafayette and drove to their firm's location in Baton Rouge where they volunteered to stay and help.

"We wanted to assist. It was Ground Zero in a place called Hancock, Mississippi. Half the town was wiped out. They had a 50-foot wave destroy the hospital. Cars were piled on top of each other. There were bodies in the trees. There were bodies littering the beach.

"This is catastrophic," he added. "We were just as much in shock as anyone. We set up like a M.A.S.H. station. People came in carrying dead people. They came in with broken bones, and we didn't have the equipment to help them. We could only give them something for the pain.

"People were fighting for food. It was just a mess. There are still 1,000 people missing from there."

Keathley told of a young boy, about 13, arriving at the makeshift hospital asking for a tetanus shot.

"We told him he needed parental consent, but he told us he didn't have parents. They floated off, he said. I worked in Oakland after the Loma Prieta quake, and that was terrible, but it was nothing like this. This is such a huge scale. It's just hard to explain," Keathley said.

Keathley and his colleagues have had little water, food or sleep for several days, and now that he's home, Keathley said he plans to rest.

"First, I'll see my wife. Then I'll take a nap and some time off," he said. "I can't go back there right now. It's just too much."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; katrina; mississippi
The body count in MS looks like it will be much higher than the current official count
1 posted on 09/03/2005 10:07:14 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: SauronOfMordor

Much higher.


2 posted on 09/03/2005 10:13:07 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: SauronOfMordor

The media focuses on the thugs rapes and murders in N.O.
but the rest of the disaster area is in every bit as much
in need ...and they aint killing their neighbors...and stealing their supplies...

Which makes them far more worthy of our help

Whole 'small towns' were wiped out...

imo


3 posted on 09/03/2005 10:15:58 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: SauronOfMordor; My Favorite Headache

MFH had this three days ago, much to the consternation of many people.


4 posted on 09/03/2005 10:17:34 AM PDT by Maigrey (1-800-PrayerWarrior - Just a ping away)
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To: MEG33

This will defintely be the biggest natural disaster to ever hit the U.S. I wouldn't be surprised to see the total casualty count, including those who've died in hospitals,etc. in the week after the hurricane, approach 15-20,000.

When you compare it to other bad hurricanes in the recent past that killed double digits at the most, it puts the emergency response in perspective. Everyone's saying things weren't done fast enough but this disaster was on a magnitude hundreds of times greater than any other U.S. hurricane in modern times. You can't expect everything to be under control within 2 days. That fast a response wasn't even accomplished with hurricanes whose effects were infinitesimal compared to this one.


5 posted on 09/03/2005 10:21:36 AM PDT by saquin
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To: Maigrey

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473894/posts

Here is the link. Once again, FR scoops the world. The pajamahadeen beats the MSM every time.


6 posted on 09/03/2005 10:28:32 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: SauronOfMordor

You know...there are going to be alot of children in need of adoptive homes. :(


7 posted on 09/03/2005 10:32:18 AM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: My Favorite Headache

ping and prayers for the 13 yo boy seeking the tetanus shot who saw his parents float away...


8 posted on 09/03/2005 10:32:28 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: I still care

FYI

From a Navy guy:
Haven't read much about this in the news .... but a Navy info source that I receive sent this out this morning.

Thanks to the Navy's new readiness model 28 ships were ready to get underway within 24 hours.

Bataan (a helicopter carrier) and HSV (High Speed Vessel) 2 Swift, out of Naval Station Ingleside, Texas, are off the affected coastline providing support. Four MH-53s (huge helos capable of moving 40-50 troops) and two HH-60s (capable of moving about 20 troops) off the Bataan are flying medevac and search and rescue (SAR) missions in Louisiana, and supporting the Coast Guard's 8th District. Bataan's hospital and staff has been augmented by an additional contingent from the Navy's Bureau of Medicine (BUMED), consisting of 85 personnel, including 12 physicians and 4 surgeons.

The Iwo Jima (large helo carrier) Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG) is sailing from Norfolk, Va. loaded with disaster-response equipment. The USNS Arctic (T-AOE 8 - an oiler, ammunition and stores (as in refrigerated stores)) is currently off the Gulf Coast. USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) (large helo carrier), USS Shreveport (LPD 12) (large helo capable troop transport ship), and USS Tortuga (LSD 46) (large, helo capable troop transport ship) are expected soon. A medical staff augmentation for Iwo Jima is expected to be en route tomorrow.

The hospital ship, USNS Comfort (T-AH 20), is departing Baltimore by September 3 to bring some 270 medical staff, capable of supporting 250 hospital beds, to the Gulf region. Project Hope has offered to embark additional medical personnel, and the Air Force's Surgeon General has offered to provide still further staff if needed.

USS Harry S. Truman (aircraft carrier) (CVN 75) and USS Whidbey Island (LSD 41) (same as Tortuga above) are sailing today for areas off the Gulf Coast in support to FEMA relief operations. Truman will serve as a command center and an afloat staging base, and will carry additional helicopters from Naval Air Station Jacksonville to support search and rescue efforts. Whidbey Island will bring to the region the ability to employ a movable causeway.

USS Grapple (ARS 53) (salvage ship) is currently en route in order to assist with maritime and underwater survey and salvage operations.

Military Sealift Command has transferred control of five of its ships to the Navy's Second Fleet to provide further support to relief efforts. USNS Bellatrix, Altair, Pillilau, Bob Hope, and Argol are in the Gulf of Mexico already (all capable of carrying lots of food stuffs, and supplies). USNS Arctic is also at sea in the Gulf and acting as a FEMA support ship and providing logistics services support for the other ships at sea.

Navy helicopters from Jacksonville and Mayport, Fla., are supporting relief efforts, and Navy Seabees from Port Hueneme, Jacksonville, and Norfolk are on scene or making preparations to deploy to assist in relief operations.

USNS Pollux is operating onboard dialysis equipment for the patients of a local hospital, providing diesel fuel for area hospitals' generators, and providing meals and berthing to relief workers.

More info at www.navy.mil


9 posted on 09/03/2005 10:48:31 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: zip

ping


10 posted on 09/03/2005 10:55:35 AM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: saquin
Look I'm the biggest conservative around but there is absolutely no excuse for thousands of people on an off ramp being past by day after day by rescue trucks and not even being given water, meals or even an idea of where to go for help.
This was big yes but the response from the feds was very saddening.
11 posted on 09/03/2005 11:16:06 AM PDT by jetvol1 (Yeah yeah yeah i love ya. now roll over.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

bttt


12 posted on 09/03/2005 11:21:34 AM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: jetvol1

Part of the problem is that assets that could've been used to deliver supplies were needed for people who were either unable to evac thanks to poor local planning or idiots who refused to leave. I don't think the feds ever figured the numbers of both would be so high. If they're to be faulted for anything, it's assuming the state and local pols knew what they were doing and that those who could get out would be smart enough to get out of the way.


13 posted on 09/03/2005 11:25:00 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: SauronOfMordor; My Favorite Headache; WKB; WoodstockCat; Altair333; truthluva; struggle; ...
Mississippi ping!


14 posted on 09/03/2005 11:27:01 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Virtute et armis" - By valor and arms)
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To: saquin

I do the math over and over. In NO alone, with a population of 1.4 million, the report is that 400,000 left before the storm. They have maybe 200,000 in shelters or waiting on buses. Where are the remaining 800,000?


15 posted on 09/03/2005 11:33:37 AM PDT by granite (I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.)
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To: granite

The 1.4 million figure is not for the City of New Orleans, it is for the whole New Orleans metropolitan area. The population of the City itself is a little more than 1/3 of that figure. There are a lot of folks left in Jefferson Parish and other places who don't need to leave because they aren't underwater.


16 posted on 09/03/2005 11:37:23 AM PDT by pollyg107
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To: pollyg107

That is more optimistic, thanks.


17 posted on 09/03/2005 11:42:34 AM PDT by granite (I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.)
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To: saquin

"This will defintely be the biggest natural disaster to ever hit the U.S. I wouldn't be surprised to see the total casualty count, including those who've died in hospitals,etc. in the week after the hurricane, approach 15-20,000"

I have a sinking feeling it will be 4 to five times higher!


18 posted on 09/03/2005 11:42:50 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (Even when a dog discovers he is barking up a wrong tree, he can still take a leak on it!)
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To: granite

I've been trying to find out exactly how many of the 1.3 or 1.4 million people in the metro New Orleans area are homeless and need to leave. I can certainly understand that the City (or most of it) has to be totally evacuated. However, I am hearing that there are areas in the suburbs that can be repaired and put back in working order. I think we'll hear more about this in a week or so.


19 posted on 09/03/2005 11:45:18 AM PDT by pollyg107
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To: SauronOfMordor

Little of the national TV is showing the small MS towns wiped out by this.

As of Thursday, a friend of mine STILL hadn't heard from her family in south MS --- who lived at least 1 1/2 hours drive inland from the coast!

I think 80 MPH winds came through that section. No phone service, no electricity, etc.

It's a small rural area, so neighbors are most likely helping each other. But she was hoping to hear something soon!


20 posted on 09/03/2005 11:55:51 AM PDT by Cedar
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To: jetvol1
Instead of blaming the feds, who were 1000+ miles away, where was the state EMA groups? The "leadership" was local, and all they could do was wring their hands, cry in front of the cameras, and ask for prayers. There was no real leadership in LA, unlike in MS and AL.

For a bureaucracy, the feds were moving like lightning in a bottle, (and the corporate and charity groups were moving at lightning speed) while the state EMA groups were slugs stuck in sewage.

21 posted on 09/03/2005 11:56:40 AM PDT by Maigrey (1-800-PrayerWarrior - Just a ping away)
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To: SauronOfMordor; My Favorite Headache

Kudo's to My Favorite Headache for putting out a "first person" account! Must be the total pitts when you know what you were told was true (the cell phone call), and no other way to back-up was available - except time itself.


22 posted on 09/03/2005 12:28:17 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Maigrey

Yep, I remember Hugh Hewitt was railing against that thread.


23 posted on 09/03/2005 12:35:03 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: Cedar; My Favorite Headache
Little of the national TV is showing the small MS towns wiped out by this.

re: shortage of news about MS deaths:

There are a lot of people who are out of contact with their friends and relatives in MS. For most, that lack of contact is because phones are down. For some unknown percentage, the lack of contact is because the people are dead

The Gulf Coast is a big area. If the news media broadcast lots of stuff about large numbers of deaths, you would have hundreds of thousands of concerned people clogging the roads to the affected areas to go and find out what happened to their relatives and friends. I don't think the government wants that while theyre still working on rescue efforts

24 posted on 09/03/2005 12:40:59 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: txradioguy
FYI ping

Funny...nothing on the MSM and they have reporters crawling all over ther area you say your friend is at. Color me skeptical.
25 posted on 09/03/2005 12:47:25 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: Issaquahking

Click on the skycopter tour of the coast links on this site. MS has been utterly devasted along the entire coast

http://www.wlbt.com/


26 posted on 09/03/2005 1:15:25 PM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: Issaquahking

Nobody wants numbers like I have been hearing to be true. But there is a legal process that is being followed and Haley is going to creep those numbers up daily as time goes along.


27 posted on 09/03/2005 1:32:46 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Issaquahking

Nobody wants numbers like I have been hearing to be true. But there is a legal process that is being followed and Haley is going to creep those numbers up daily as time goes along.


28 posted on 09/03/2005 1:32:48 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: Maigrey

A little vindication for MFH! Nice to see after all the flack in the earlier thread.


29 posted on 09/03/2005 1:38:06 PM PDT by Uriah_lost
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To: SauronOfMordor

Senator Vitter said 10,000 in NO would be a place to start with number of dead. I suspect this will far surpass the worst hurricane loss in the USA which was the 1900 Galveston hurricane that killed 8,000.


30 posted on 09/03/2005 1:38:58 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Issaquahking
Funny...nothing on the MSM and they have reporters crawling all over ther area you say your friend is at.

I don't know if they have reporters there or not, they are too busy calling President Bush a racist because NO wasn't evacuated.

31 posted on 09/03/2005 2:13:00 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: AliVeritas

Thanks for the post!


32 posted on 09/03/2005 3:49:44 PM PDT by JLO
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To: SauronOfMordor

I expect it will go higher. It's going to take time to scour the woods and go through the rubble. It's so sad that it hard to take it all in.


33 posted on 09/03/2005 3:59:28 PM PDT by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: dixiechick2000; WKB

I love it when a lady pings the list. Female pings are much more graceful than our crude male pings.


34 posted on 09/03/2005 4:40:36 PM PDT by bourbon (It's the target that decides whether terror wins.)
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To: Issaquahking; All

This post was not meant to be my comment- it should have been been italicized as it is not my thoughts - it is a quote from another thread - I couldn't be that crass. I might ask questions, but cannot begin to imagine what it must be like to be on the MS coast.


35 posted on 09/03/2005 4:50:02 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: MEG33
Much higher.

It SHOULD be possible for FEMA to take what they know for sure about some localities and make a model that would predict the death toll to within 10%.

Makes you wonder what we will be told about a bioterror attack.

36 posted on 09/03/2005 5:14:51 PM PDT by Spike Spiegel
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To: Spike Spiegel
Makes you wonder what we will be told about a bioterror attack

The numbers are easy to fudge, as long as you never issue a comprehensive list of the names of the dead. If there's a list, then anybody who knows about names that are not on the list can start raising a stink on blogs all over cyberspace.

But as long as they just say "XXX deaths" how can you tell, unless you or a group of friends can compile a list of names that's bigger than XXX?

37 posted on 09/03/2005 5:44:01 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: jetvol1
no excuse for thousands of people on an off ramp being past by day after day by rescue trucks

A bit belated...like the rescue response supposedly is.

If I can stand on an off ramp or overpass; and vehicles can come IN past me, then I can damned sure walk OUT, to where they are coming from. One priority, among several others, is those who can't get to that ramp.

38 posted on 09/03/2005 7:28:55 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Marching Morons are coming...and they're breeding more Democrats beyond all reason!)
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To: jetvol1

Read the Constitution, please.

The blame the Feds crap is so old, the chain of command should be explained on FR home page.


39 posted on 09/03/2005 7:40:40 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Lurk forever, but once you post, your newbness shines like a new pair of shoes.)
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To: bourbon; WKB

Well, aren't you the sweetest thing.
You two are true Southern Gentlemen, make no mistake about that. ;o)


40 posted on 09/03/2005 10:02:42 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 ("Virtute et armis" - By valor and arms)
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To: My Favorite Headache

bttt


41 posted on 09/04/2005 1:14:54 AM PDT by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
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To: mabelkitty

AMEN! the responsibility for this tragedy lies squarely on the shoulders of that Mayor and that Gov.

I have never witnessed more ineptitude in my life.
Both should be brought up on charges of Criminal Neglect at the very least.

MSM is trying to lay this on Bush and we need to insure that everyone knows the real scoop.


42 posted on 09/04/2005 4:52:17 AM PDT by halfright (3 Days post Hanoi (Jihadi) Jane... 2200hrs meeting to urinate on her grave...Semper Fi !)
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To: My Favorite Headache

Bttt.


43 posted on 09/04/2005 4:59:11 AM PDT by Prince Charles
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