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KATRINA: RESPONSE TIMELINE
RightWingNuthouse ^ | September 04, 2005 | Rick Moran

Posted on 09/04/2005 1:00:05 PM PDT by coffee260

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Well done Rick
1 posted on 09/04/2005 1:00:05 PM PDT by coffee260
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To: mewzilla
FYI- haven't taken a close look at this ( or the other one,
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1476694/posts ) yet.

2 posted on 09/04/2005 1:06:44 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: coffee260

Here is the site of the State of Louisiana's "Emergency Operations Plan".
http://www.loep.state.la.us/plans/EOPSupplement1b.pdf
http://www.loep.state.la.us/plans/EOPSupplement1a.pdf

You need only read from page 7 to about 16 to see who is responsible for this mess. It is the Parish Presidents and the other local and state elected officials.
Do not blame anyone until you read this!!!


3 posted on 09/04/2005 1:06:57 PM PDT by hophead
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To: coffee260

Nagin is quoted as saying " I didn't use the schoolbuses to evacuate because they didn't have toilets"..

No snack lunch either.


4 posted on 09/04/2005 1:13:22 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: coffee260

9-11: Major failure of government

Border Crisis: Major failure of government

Hurricane Katrina: Major failure of government

We have a problem.

5 posted on 09/04/2005 1:13:37 PM PDT by rimmont
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To: hophead
It is the Parish Presidents and the other local and state elected officials.

That's why Broussard was crying and whining on tv this morning. More deflection and CYA.

6 posted on 09/04/2005 1:14:37 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: coffee260
It's all Bush's fault. He should've been there sooner. He should've been standing on the levee in the face of the hurricane, stretched to the wind to prevent the force of nature from harming the city.

Oh, no, wait, that was a comic book.

7 posted on 09/04/2005 1:14:45 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (By defiintion, we cannot have Consensus until you agree with me.)
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To: coffee260

Great post! and bump


8 posted on 09/04/2005 1:15:19 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: coffee260

What a fantastic timeline. Just fantastic.


9 posted on 09/04/2005 1:15:25 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: rimmont

Nagin also failed to warn the elderly and infirm to bring their own evacuation bus if they wanted to escape alive.


10 posted on 09/04/2005 1:16:01 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: coffee260
Great job! I'm saving a copy of this for friends and neighbors who want to blame the FedGov for this!
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"I need troops, man. I need 500 buses.” Nagin said.

I'll show you a picture of where your buses are, you pea-brained fork-off!

If you'd used them to get people out, you would have saved the buses as well!

11 posted on 09/04/2005 1:17:44 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: coffee260

Another bump for reality versus spin.....


12 posted on 09/04/2005 1:19:49 PM PDT by jimtorr
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To: coffee260

Great resource. Thanks.


13 posted on 09/04/2005 1:20:46 PM PDT by rottndog (May God have mercy on and bless the victims of Hurricane Katrina. Let us not forget them.)
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To: coffee260

Very informative and interesting read. Way to go TP.


14 posted on 09/04/2005 1:20:58 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: hophead

I'll bet NO and local government have never deployed their buses to evacuate the needy in previous hurricanes until AFTER the storm. They want to save the buses. It's about money.

Criminal negligence.


15 posted on 09/04/2005 1:21:15 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: coffee260

Thank you so much, and bump.


16 posted on 09/04/2005 1:22:41 PM PDT by Desert_Girl (Where are we going, and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: rimmont

"9-11: Major failure of government
Border Crisis: Major failure of government
Hurricane Katrina: Major failure of government
We have a problem."

Never have we needed people to take personal responsibiltiy on themselves as today.

Everyone who remained expects the government to do it, to fix it, to hold their hand, for them.

That you demorats and fifty years of dependency.


17 posted on 09/04/2005 1:22:44 PM PDT by George from New England
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To: coffee260

I'm not sure this is at all accurate. I have read that the Bush administration contacted Blanco on Friday evening and requested that she allow FEMA to take over the evacuation and relief effort. She refused, saying that to allow them to control the effort would be like declaring federal martial law and she compared it to sending troops into Iraq.

I'm not going to do your homework for, but I think that you had better go back and do a little checking.


18 posted on 09/04/2005 1:26:22 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Colonial Warrior

Ping


19 posted on 09/04/2005 1:31:02 PM PDT by Hushpuppie
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To: coffee260

Nice job!. However, you missed the mayor's order to commandeer all buses immediately and evacuate the elderly and infirm 24 hr prior to katrina's arrival. ...He didn't?...Bad mayor, bad mayor.


20 posted on 09/04/2005 1:34:56 PM PDT by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims have already started. 1600 replies and not a single post!)
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To: coffee260

bookmark.


21 posted on 09/04/2005 1:35:26 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Eva

Eva you are exactly correct.


22 posted on 09/04/2005 1:35:57 PM PDT by HannaUSA
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To: coffee260

Self evident from the TL that state and local officials fiddled around, until New Orleans drowned.


23 posted on 09/04/2005 1:37:18 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: coffee260

bump


24 posted on 09/04/2005 1:37:54 PM PDT by jonno (We are NOT a democracy - though we are democratic. We ARE a constitutional republic.)
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To: backhoe

Aug 28th Sunday - In the face of a catastrophic Hurricane Katrina, a mandatory evacuation was ordered Sunday for New Orleans by Mayor Ray Nagin.

This is what should have happened on Friday Aug 26th when the weather satelite images clearly showed Katrinas strength was taking in more air mass from both the Atlantic and the Pacific oceans. No way can a city be evacuated one day prior to the storm hitting land. Insane Drive-thru mentality.


25 posted on 09/04/2005 1:37:54 PM PDT by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: coffee260
He advised anyone planning to stay there to bring there own food, drinks and other comforts such as folding chairs, as if planning to go camping. “No weapons, no large items, and bring small quanties of food for three or four days, to be safe,” he said.

It would seem that NO had little in the way of supplies for the multitudes in the Superdome and nothing for those in the Convention Center.

26 posted on 09/04/2005 1:40:01 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: rimmont

Hurricane Katrina wasn't a major failure of the federal government ...it was a local failure... Period.


27 posted on 09/04/2005 1:41:36 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Eva

Plus, there is a lot that seems to be left out.

What did the local television news people report about the storm? For instance, people I've talked to have said they downplayed both the severity of the storm and the likelihood that it would hit New Orleans.

When did they shut down the city buses? I've heard noon Sunday. This is significant because many people thought they could get rides on the buses to the edge of the city. Some of them connect to other bus lines. In any event, they could have used them to bus people out of town.

Why were there no banks of porta-potties for the "shelters"? Everyone knows the power goes out during a storm, and this was a hurricane. When the power goes out, the pumps that send water to flush-toilets go out too. The sewer the shelters became were an inevitability without portapotties or SOME alternate solution. People "gotta go."

There's a lot more, but these are some items that might have been added.


28 posted on 09/04/2005 1:47:06 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: coffee260
Nagin said late Saturday that he’s having his legal staff look into whether he can order a mandatory evacuation of the city,
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WHAT!

The Category 4 or 5 is sitting off the coast and this guy starts asking questions a day and a half before it hits as to whether he can force an evacuation?

29 posted on 09/04/2005 1:50:43 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: Mike Darancette

This long time Free Republic lurker has been sick with anger since this morning's (Sunday) talk shows.....and now this timeline!!

Every sentence tells another sad sad story. For whatever reason, my brain settled on this quote...

"Nagin said late Saturday that he’s having his legal staff look into whether he can order a mandatory evacuation of the city, a step he’s been hesitant to do because of potential liability on the part of the city for closing hotels and other businesses. “Come the first break of light in the morning, you may have the first mandatory evacuation of New Orleans,” Nagin told WWL-TV."

Wouldn't one expect that after 9/11 and all the federal money poured into major cities like New Orleans for preparedness, local officials would have been resolved issues like this long long ago. Seems to me the fact that this was a hurricane disaster really isn't the issue. What if it had been a terror attack?

Freepers, I'm so mad! All the discussions here are not being read by those that prefer to attack our President. My own neighbors are still telling me that "ALL" national guard of Louisianna are in Iraq. Doesn't matter that I tell them differently....They believe what they WANT to believe.

How does one get the truth out? I don't know where to begin but will do my part with some guidance.

Thank God for Freepers and Bloggers....all doing the footwork one would expect an investigative media to do themselves.

Hope I've not come across as a nut....although I admit I'm not in control of my anger right now!!!!!!






30 posted on 09/04/2005 2:04:45 PM PDT by WSue601
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To: WSue601
Hope I've not come across as a nut

No, the nuts are on the other Democrat sites.

31 posted on 09/04/2005 2:11:36 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: Redbob

"I'll show you a picture of where your buses are, you pea-brained fork-off!

If you'd used them to get people out, you would have saved the buses as well!"

This is the level of competance I would expect from a Mayor elected based on his race. Affirmative action elections give the same results as affirmative action admissions.


32 posted on 09/04/2005 2:15:28 PM PDT by BadAndy (Yes liberals, I DO question your patriotism.)
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To: coffee260
Several other types of timelines are being developed, too.

(Vanity) Freepers lets get the facts together
  Posted by janetjanet998
On General/Chat 09/04/2005 11:09:35 AM CDT · 12 replies · 99+ views


us
There will be a "9-11 report" like investagtion about all of this..lets help them by starting now..lets get all facts and data and when they happened....the local and state people there are trying to blame Bush... lets document all the lies and misinformation the media and the local politicians are spreading...back them up with sourced facts


Aug 27 WhiteHouse release of aid to Louisiana
  Posted by Verbosus
On News/Activism 09/04/2005 2:06:46 PM CDT · 25 replies · 625+ views


WhiteHouse Press Release ^
I searched and didn't see this anywhere, but I thought this was of interest. It is the WhiteHouse release of aid to Louisiana dated August 27, 2005. Obviously prior to hurricane Katrina. From the whitehouse.gov URL above: ---------------------------------------- Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana The President today declared an emergency exists in the State of Louisiana and ordered Federal aid to supplement state and local response efforts in the parishes located in the path of Hurricane Katrina beginning on August 26, 2005, and continuing. The President's action authorizes the Department of Homeland Security, Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), to...


Glance at National Guard Deployment (Katrina Timeline)
  Posted by Tall_Texan
On News/Activism 09/04/2005 11:49:50 AM CDT · 27 replies · 793+ views


National Guard Bureau ^ | 09-03-05 | Associated Press
Sep 3, 4:57 PM (ET) By The Associated Press A day-by-day look at when National Guard troops from around the country arrived in Louisiana and Mississippi, the two states hit hardest by Hurricane Katrina: TUESDAY, Aug. 30: In Louisiana: - 4,725, all from Louisiana In Mississippi: - 2,747, all from Mississippi WEDNESDAY, Aug. 31: In Louisiana: - Ohio: nine - Oklahoma: 89 - Texas: 625 In Mississippi: Arkansas: 350 Delaware : 68 Florida: 350 Maryland: 130 THURSDAY, Sept. 1: In Louisiana: Arkansas: 446 Colorado: 4 Kansas: 12 Missouri: 40 Nevada: 12 Ohio: 210 Oklahoma: 283 Texas: 972 In Mississippi: Alabama:...


A Chronology of Hurricane Katrina
  Posted by neverdem
On News/Activism 09/04/2005 3:30:47 AM CDT · 25 replies · 605+ views


The Guardian ^ | September 3, 2005
Saturday September 3, 2005 8:31 PM By The Associated Press A day-by-day look at Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath. Wednesday, Aug. 24: - Tropical Depression 12 strengthens into Tropical Storm Katrina over the Central Bahamas; a hurricane warning is issued for the southeastern Florida coast. Thursday, Aug. 25: - Hurricane Katrina strikes Florida between Hallandale Beach and North Miami Beach as a Category 1 hurricane with 80 mph winds. Friday, Aug. 26: - Katrina weakens over land to a tropical storm before moving out over the Gulf of Mexico. It grows to a Category 2 hurricane with 100 mph winds,...


Katrina: A timeline -- proof the Federal response was NOT SLOW
  Posted by Wolfstar
On News/Activism 09/03/2005 10:44:11 PM CDT · 308 replies · 4,430+ views


White House.gov; multiple news & other sources ^ | 9/3/05
After days of being harrangued by media reports to the contrary, this may seem like a radical notion, but... THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S RESPONSE TO KATRINA WAS NOT SLOW!FACT: Coast Guard, U.S. Navy and other search and rescue units were in New Orleans, elsewhere in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama on Monday, after the storm passed out of the area. FACT: The full extent of the devastation to the Gulf Coast region, and the levee breaches in New Orleans, were not known until Tuesday. FACT: A convoy of about 500 buses reached the Superdome late Wednesday. FACT: The first of 500 busloads...


Let's put together a timeline
  Posted by rhetorica
On News/Activism 09/03/2005 10:03:04 AM CDT · 45 replies · 1,015+ views


OK folks, let's get this thing under control. We need to build a timeline of (1) events relating to Katrina (e.g. landfall, levee breeches, flooding, etc)(2)events relating to LA, MS and AL and Fed government responses to Katrina (e.g. evacuation orders, activating guard, etc) (3) events as reported by major media outlets (e.g. hurrincane hits and misses, breeches, flooding, evacualtions, looting, etc.) Let's see if we can put a timeline together that chronicles all these events. I am willing to assemble all the information if Freepers will help me locate the evidence. It will be very important that we have...


When did the various governors ask for federal troops and a few other questions
  Posted by airedale
On News/Activism 09/02/2005 11:12:23 PM CDT · 10 replies · 563+ views


self
In order to get federal troops the state governors have to formally ask in writing. I was wondering when exactly the various governors asked for federal troops and their support. FEMA is different and no formal request is needed. Second question when did the various governors mobilize there Air and Army National Guard units. When did the units actually mobilize? Third question in terms of Louisiana does their Air National Guard have helicopters (cargo and heavy lift as opposed to gunships and attack helicopters)? If so how many and when where they put into service flying missions in support of...

33 posted on 09/04/2005 2:26:47 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: hophead

I just read a couple pages and thought,"WOW!" No wonder Nagil is making so much noise (An empty wagon makes lots of noise." - a good southern saying)

I wonder if he or the governor ever read this thing? When did Nagil get elected? When did Blanco get elected?

It's CYA time for both of them!!!


34 posted on 09/04/2005 2:30:58 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: RTINSC

Steve Harvey was in Baton Rouge (he's a comedian who has a foundation and came out to help) said something about how ridiculous it was to use school buses for adults. What does it matter -- just get them the heck outta there!


35 posted on 09/04/2005 2:32:11 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: RTINSC
Nagin is quoted as saying " I didn't use the schoolbuses to evacuate because they didn't have toilets"..

Where that? I can use that one.

36 posted on 09/04/2005 2:37:07 PM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: George from New England

"Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." JFKennedy's Innaugural Speech.

What in the world has happened to the Democratic Party?!


37 posted on 09/04/2005 2:40:55 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: doug from upland

act first -- ask for forgiveness later. Should have been the mayor's philosophy.


38 posted on 09/04/2005 2:43:13 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: coffee260

Where does the celebratory drinking in the French Quarter, when it thought NO dodged another bullet, fit into this time line?


39 posted on 09/04/2005 2:43:13 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: MizSterious

There's a lot LEFT out.
Seems like something the Left does a lot.
I don't think you intended it to be a pun, but it is.


40 posted on 09/04/2005 2:44:34 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: RTINSC
Nagin is quoted as saying " I didn't use the schoolbuses to evacuate because they didn't have toilets"..

I hope folks are taking in the message that government is NOT going to take care of everything.

41 posted on 09/04/2005 2:46:45 PM PDT by aBootes
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To: frogjerk

LOL--that would be all afternoon and into the evening on Monday.


42 posted on 09/04/2005 2:46:53 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: coffee260

Excellent summary.


43 posted on 09/04/2005 2:48:31 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from Earth. Liberals are from Uranus.(c))
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To: RTINSC
Idiot.

Squalling for 500 buses when he left Lake Pontchartrain to take 576 of them.
44 posted on 09/04/2005 2:49:47 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Conservatives are from Earth. Liberals are from Uranus.(c))
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To: WSue601
I admit I'm not in control of my anger right now!!!!!!

That is an understatement for many, at least for me. My blood pressure is up 30, literally. Thank you so much for what the media, all the media should be giving us. I have started watching the weather channel, I get weather along with the disaster reports, reports that are reasonable and well balanced. i.e. giving the real problem areas and also the good things happening.

45 posted on 09/04/2005 2:50:23 PM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences ... you might become a conservative)
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To: TomGuy

bttt


46 posted on 09/04/2005 3:00:33 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: coffee260
Americandaughter.com: Katrina's timeline
47 posted on 09/04/2005 3:04:11 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Eva
from coffee260 ... if you have a link to a story that contradicts or adds to this timeline, I urge you to send it along.

I'm glad to have all information. If you have the info, why would you not share it instead of slapping a person who provided what they had? Do we pay coffee260 for this work?

48 posted on 09/04/2005 3:10:19 PM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences ... you might become a conservative)
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To: Eva

Oops, good thing I'm not doing the research. That was Rick that did the time-line.


49 posted on 09/04/2005 3:13:06 PM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences ... you might become a conservative)
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To: Ruth C

The work was shoddy and inaccurate and left out the most important facts and misconstued others. The time-line seemed directed at a cover up of ineptness of local and state officials. Does that answer your question?


50 posted on 09/04/2005 3:17:12 PM PDT by Eva
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