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Why Didn't Louisiana Follow its Required Emergency Plan?
Self | September 4, 2005 | Joseph Ranos

Posted on 09/04/2005 3:48:32 PM PDT by Sonar5

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To: Sonar5

Awesome research, wow! FReepers rule, thanks!


151 posted on 09/04/2005 6:47:02 PM PDT by RushCrush (Janice Rogers Brown Now!)
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To: Sonar5

Louisiana Develops Improved Hurricane Evacuation Plan

April 13, 2005 -- According to today's FEMA National Situation Update, a new hurricane evacuation plan was demanded by Governor Kathleen Blanco after Hurricane Ivan when a traffic snarl that stretched from New Orleans to Baton Rouge lasted upward of 12 hours. The plan was put together by state police and the DOTD and includes evacuation routes for not only New Orleans and points south, but Lake Charles, Lafayette and the Houma-Thibodaux area. Under the new plan preparing for evacuations would begin at least 72 hours in advance. One of the problems during Ivan was the time required to get barriers, people and other material in place to allow lane reversal on highways.

Beginning 50 hours in advance, evacuations south of New Orleans would be ordered, public offices and schools would be closed, but traffic would remain along normal routes.


At 40 hours, evacuation south of the Mississippi River, including the West Bank of New Orleans, would be ordered.


In Phase 3, if the storm is a category 3 storm or higher, contraflow would be triggered.
Problems that slowed traffic last time ran the gamut from signs that were too hard to read, forcing drivers to slow excessively, to breakdowns. Under the new system tow trucks will be stationed along the routes and new signs will be installed. The new hurricane evacuation plan also requires a number of new ramps to be added or widened, new crossovers and other items at a cost of $7.5 million.


152 posted on 09/04/2005 6:48:21 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Darksheare; freethinker777

If that's all they got, there may be criminal charges. Have you heard that along with a private plane and a casino the New Orleans levee board also owns two marinas?

https://www.netmar.com/~cguide/ngmarinas.html

South shore and orleans.

The rumblings of things to come. This is gonna get interesting.


153 posted on 09/04/2005 6:51:21 PM PDT by bad company (what the hell happened to the 11th commandment?)
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To: Darksheare
But freestinker will be back, again and again.. Couldn't we petition for a better class of trolls.
Freestinker is no JJ_fate
154 posted on 09/04/2005 6:51:30 PM PDT by scott0347 (Commander of the 0347th Lancer Brigade, Operator of the Immaculate Steamroller)
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To: NewLand; Sonar5; All

There is a FReeper ( I can't remember his/ her name) who keeps a great list of all MSM contacts. Need to get this info out to ALL MSM contacts on the list, all newspapers.


155 posted on 09/04/2005 7:05:05 PM PDT by RushCrush (Janice Rogers Brown Now!)
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To: freethinker777
Ok the DHS assumes the responsibility that local emergency response personnel are PREPARED.

That has nothing to do with the fact that these personnel need to be CALLED INTO ACTION, i.e. the plan IMPLEMENTED.

what exactly are you saying with this post?

156 posted on 09/04/2005 7:07:01 PM PDT by RushCrush (Janice Rogers Brown Now!)
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To: bad company

Hi,

I'm looking for a hard link that shows the Levee Board owns a Casino.

Do you have one. The link you provided only lists the two Marina's, not a proven link they own one.

Thanks,
Joe


157 posted on 09/04/2005 7:08:00 PM PDT by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: RushCrush

That poster is gone, they were a Troll ttying to distort the truth.


158 posted on 09/04/2005 7:09:00 PM PDT by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Sonar5

Yep I realized you guys were onto him right after I posted!


159 posted on 09/04/2005 7:09:31 PM PDT by RushCrush (Janice Rogers Brown Now!)
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To: photodawg
Its important this doesn't get swept under the rug of false racism charges and anti-Bush media bias.

Agreed but ....

1) FreeRepublic should not be the focus of the blame game. FreeRepublic is already under fire nationally for the few replies, wreaking of racism, submitted by a handful of registered idiots.

2) Whatever facts we uncover through diligent searches we aren't going to change the attitudes and reporting styles of the MSM.

3) I've suggested that these factual reports involving politically charged and sensitive issues be posted on FR as a locked thread (no replies possible). The information would be available for the world and the MSM to read but the few unthinking Freepers or disrupters would not have a chance to blacken our reputation or provide ammunition for our tormentors.

160 posted on 09/04/2005 7:10:50 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Sonar5

ping for bookmark


161 posted on 09/04/2005 7:12:53 PM PDT by surfatsixty (Proud Father of a USMC Grunt.)
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To: Sonar5

BTTT


162 posted on 09/04/2005 7:13:21 PM PDT by canalabamian (Durka durka...Muhammad FUBAR!)
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To: Sonar5
BLANCO DENIED---PEOPLE DIED!!

163 posted on 09/04/2005 7:14:18 PM PDT by Fawn (Being a FREE COUNTRY doesn't mean EVERYTHING'S FOR FREE!!!!!!!)
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To: Grampa Dave; Travis McGee; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Czar; bitt; ...

20-YR-OLD JABBAR GIBSON RESCUES 70 VICTIMS

BY DRIVING THEM 315 MILES TO HOUSTON TEXAS


                 

WHILE OVER 600 SCHOOL BUSES WERE IGNORED

BY LA GOVERNOR BLANCO & NO MAYOR NAGIN





164 posted on 09/04/2005 7:16:50 PM PDT by devolve (------- warning -- do not check out my lame FR profile page -----)
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To: devolve

LOL!


165 posted on 09/04/2005 7:17:34 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Sonar5

I've been looking for the smoking gun too. It's common knowledge around NO, but I'm not able to find more that talk about it on the net. All the other links on the page work except the two owned by the levee board. I'll keep looking.


166 posted on 09/04/2005 7:19:15 PM PDT by bad company (what the hell happened to the 11th commandment?)
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To: Amerigomag

And How exactly in this perfect world would our Members here find this thread.

I don't want it locked, I want it open for discussion, and additions by our members.

Feel free to start your own thread with the same links, and then request it be locked.

And it is not about being the focus of the blame game. It is about providing facts where we find them and letting our members know about those facts.

Sorry, but I disagree with your whole premise.

As for this:

You said:
" 2) Whatever facts we uncover through diligent searches we aren't going to change the attitudes and reporting styles of the MSM."

Tell that to CBS regarding the memo's..


167 posted on 09/04/2005 7:19:21 PM PDT by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Grampa Dave

I can't believe the buses are not a huge national topic by now!

Shows the power of the MSM to ignore news when it goes against their bias.


168 posted on 09/04/2005 7:21:59 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Sonar5

Bookmarked. THANKS!


169 posted on 09/04/2005 7:23:26 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Sonar5

For years the media has operated under the assumption that the American people are basically stupid. Can you imagine how their stomachs sink when they come to a forum like this and find this kind of research being done by average Americans.


170 posted on 09/04/2005 7:24:58 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Global Dumbing far more serious threat than Global Warming)
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To: scott0347

I know.
It's almost as if they are begging to be destroyed.


171 posted on 09/04/2005 7:25:04 PM PDT by Darksheare (There is a Possum in the works.)
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To: Amerigomag
Agreed but ....

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I understand what your are saying, and I have had a few tiffs with insensitive, thoughtless posters who use the forum as a masturbation session for massaging their biases. But it is free speech we're dealing with here. The threads are a resource for other thoughtful people who then undertake more research, and we are further enlightened. Free Republic wasn't the only internet vehicle I was referring to with regards to the dissemination of the information. Many blogs have published similar findings and are more able to control their content and comments. The point I think, is that there is more to be gained by open airing of the facts, than not. I do see your point however.
172 posted on 09/04/2005 7:29:17 PM PDT by photodawg
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To: Sonar5
They're idiots in that city who still refuse to leave as rescuers beg them to abandon their flooded homes. Some are just to damn stupid and others want to steal everything they can until the law forces them out. I have pity for the good people who left but I have little pity for the thugs who stayed.
173 posted on 09/04/2005 7:31:43 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: freethinker777
You are anencephalic. You know that.


174 posted on 09/04/2005 7:35:39 PM PDT by Lady Jag (The Goat-Vendor of Hamelin, and Expounder of Troll Logic)
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To: bad company
Not what you were looking for, but interesting. This is from an article dated Aug21, 2005 NO Levee Board Lawsuit
Levee Board appointees of the past five governors have made countless appearances in Baton Rouge in an effort to erase what they say has become a false perception among many legislators that the board stole the spillway land from Plaquemines Parish residents.
A report prepared by Carmouche for lawmakers in 2000 showed that only about 3 percent of the land had to be expropriated. Most property owners were more than happy to unload what they thought was worthless land, the report said.
The report also addressed what the board said were false charges that the spillway has rarely been used for flood-control purposes, offering evidence that the marshland was used 16 times between 1927 and 1984 to divert water from the Mississippi River.
Meanwhile, repeated efforts by the board to secure financial aid from the Legislature have failed. Six years ago, New Orleans voters overwhelmingly rejected the board's request for nearly $9 million a year in new property taxes

175 posted on 09/04/2005 7:36:08 PM PDT by Freedom is eternally right
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To: TheForceOfOne; Sonar5; Grampa Dave; devolve
I hope that sooner or later the MSM discovers that New Orleans did have a written emergency plan to cover the evacuation of the poor, but that the idiot mayor of New Orleans ignored it, and allowed the evacuation buses to be ruined by the flood, forgotten.

The city leaders had at least two full days to use these hundreds of buses to evac the poor, exactly as their own emergency management plan called for.

Here's the southeast Louisiana evac plan supplement, most recently revised in 2000. Go to page 13, read paragraph 5. It states:

5. The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating.


176 posted on 09/04/2005 7:36:14 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Travis McGee
Hello Travis

Idiocy from top to bottom. The politicians in Louisiana did nothing, the citizens who stayed did nothing, a total cluster fu$%% and all anyone can do is point fingers at the president.

The president has his good points and bad points like the border problem but the New Orleans death toll is the fault of those who stayed and the politicians and law enforcement who should have force those who stayed to leave as requested by the president.
177 posted on 09/04/2005 7:41:54 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: Travis McGee; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Howlin; Czar; ...


I like that new lower overhead graphic Travis

1.2 miles from that Super-Dumb joke


I saw one repeated comment on an FR thread from a Nuevo-Orleans public school teacher:



"School buses? Who will drive them?"







178 posted on 09/04/2005 7:48:13 PM PDT by devolve (------- warning -- do not check out my lame FR profile page -----)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba
Image hosted by Photobucket.comDid you say clown?
179 posted on 09/04/2005 7:53:18 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (Undocumented border patrol agent.)
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To: Sonar5

This is why I love Free Republic. There's always somebody who keeps track and can zero in on the relevant information. I've noticed that over 2000 people have viewed your article - that is great news!

I was so frustrated - I just kept sending msgs to everybody that it was THE GOVERNOR who was supposed to have a plan and implement the plan.

If people remember correctly .. during all the hurricanes in Florida - only one name was the first thing mentioned - GOVERNOR BUSH .. but when the Governor is a democrat - they excuse her incompetence. NOT THIS TIME .. she has been nailed by several people. Col Hunt did a nice job of it on O'Reilly the other night.

I've noticed that even though there are THOUSANDS of possible deaths - there's no call for her impeachment or for her to resign. Yet, 1800 deaths in a war - and Bush is the butcher of the worst kind.

Once again .. America is watching as the democrats excuse their party members and only hold republicans accountable. It's not working!! Thanks in part to people like you who put together this report - PROVING the Governor's total incompentance.


180 posted on 09/04/2005 7:53:55 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: lawdude

Jesse Jackson said today that the NO victims should receive the same compensation as the 911 victims did. Every family who lost someone in the TT got one million dollars + from the federal government. (you do recall that detail don't you) JJ wants the same for all from the Katrina disaster.


181 posted on 09/04/2005 7:56:29 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: kittymyrib

This is pretty symbolic of the whole problem. Tragic as Broussard's story was, the fact that an emergnecy management official left his own mother in a nursing home in the direct path of a hurricane (St. Bernard's parish) is indicative of everything that wrong here. Nagin is certainly to blame, but so are those in the parishes of Plaquimines and St. Bernards, along with the counties of Hancock, Harrison, and Jackson in Mississippi. In all incidents there were paltry (indeed non-existent) efforts to evacuate those who could not do so themselves. This despite over 48 hours in which forecasts put them in the cross-hairs of a category 4/5 hurricane. By leaving thousands upon thousands in areas so close to sea-level, it completely plugged up all subsequent rescue and relief efforts by local, state, and federal officials.


182 posted on 09/04/2005 8:05:08 PM PDT by wthrman
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To: wthrman

Parish Presidents were Signatories on the Emergency Evacuation Plan for their area. They are as Complicit in this as the Mayor and Governor.


183 posted on 09/04/2005 8:12:18 PM PDT by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Sonar5
Mostly because Blanco is an idiot!
184 posted on 09/04/2005 8:13:47 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

no comment.

ugh


185 posted on 09/04/2005 8:14:08 PM PDT by lawdude (Liberalism is a mental disease.)
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To: Sonar5
Again, thanks for your diligent research and the information you provided. Reviewed in a mature light it can help mitigate missteps in future disaster responses.

As for the MSM, which I'm watching as I reply, the Rathergate affair simply earned a few employees early retirement but the style and intent hasn't changed one iota.

I just finished watching Scot Peley (sp?) manipulating the mayor of New Orleans to slam and bash the Bush administration. The bashing was a bit more subtle than the Rather style but the interview was still a heavily edited, partisan, political piece cloaked in the sorrow of a disaster utilizing an unsophisticated, local administrator/victim, without shame.

As to defending the Bush administration, I don't think they need the help. From my perspective President Bush is doing fine. He's delivering an honest message of help and hope and staying out of the blame game. The administration's detractors are well know political hacks who's tirades are being amplified by the MSM. Their bickering is being increasing recognized as political posturing by the electorate and their credibility is decreasing as emphasized by their decreasing viwership/subscriptions.

President Bush's popularity, which is surprisingly strong in view of his lame duck status under of a barrage of unprecedented, continuous, savage, political assassination attempts, is testament to his abilities to defend himself.

186 posted on 09/04/2005 8:14:43 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: JaneAustin; Sonar5
I've seen that. Check this out;

You have to work pretty hard to make people feel sorry for right-wing radio talk show host Robert Namer, so give Orleans Levee Board president James Huey his due. Back in 1997, Huey was so upset about Namer's incessant on-air tirades against the Levee Board that he unilaterally authorized board attorneys to hire private dicks to get embarrassing information on Namer. As if Namer's reputation as a political gadfly weren't enough to discredit him, Huey felt the need to (in the words of his former "confidential assistant" Vincent Bruno) "neutralize" Namer. Per the longstanding Levee Board policy of financing dumb ideas, Huey paid the gumshoes with public funds -- through the board's legal department -- but without telling other board members. After a year, the "investigators" produced nothing. In fact, the probe has become a laughingstock. The tab for the detectives and the attorneys overseeing them came to roughly $45,000. Details of Namergate came to light only recently when the Louisiana Weekly got hold of a sworn deposition by Bruno, whom Huey fired after Bruno admitted to The Times-Picayune that he did nothing to earn his $50,000-a-year salary. Whatever Bruno did or didn't do for his salary, he at least paid attention, for he provided some titillating details about the Namer "investigation" in his testimony. He also admitted that no one ever asked whether spying on Namer had anything to do with flood protection.

http://www.bestofneworleans.com/dispatch/2001-08-28/politics.html

Followed by this one;

Fax Shows State Agency Tried To Use FCC To Silence Namer Documents obtained early Thursday morning reveal that senior Levee District personnel attempted to use information obtained in their investigations of talk show host Robert Namer to undermine his standing with the Federal Communications Commission. In a fax dated January 7, 1998, Gary Beniot, the Senior In-House Council authorized Gerry Metzger, the Board's outside special council "to proceed with the complaint to the FCC" on any violations of FCC protocols. As Benoit wrote, "Additionally, it is my opinion that O[rleans]L[evee]D[istrict] Government officials have a duty to report violations of Federal law to the appropriate officials." According to Namer attorney Bob Harvey, this is true. "Yes, they can, if they learn of them through ordinary sources." However, explained, Harvey, if the administrators use extraordinary methods to obtain the information they must have a letter of approval from the Attorney General authorizing the expenditure of the hourly legal fees and approval from a majority of the levee board commissioners.

http://www.louisianaweekly.com/weekly/news/articlegate.pl?20010827j

These guys are dirty. This is the story here. The levee board members are appointed by the govenor.

187 posted on 09/04/2005 8:27:47 PM PDT by bad company (what the hell happened to the 11th commandment?)
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To: ProxyAccount
Well, that's cute isn't it? What is Nagin's huge gripe? Oh, yeah the beauracracy and yet, what was he doing the day before the hurricane hit? Oh, that's right consulting lawyers concerning his authority to act. Well, gee that sounds like beauracracy to me.

What did Blanco do several times now? Seems like she issued a whole bevy of Executive Orders. Me wonders why these two people are engaging in beauracracy in their own state?

What was Charles Melancon's gripe on Nightline Friday night? Oh, well, gee, something about Blanco not filling out the forms correctly or something. Ted Koppel was asking who's responsibility it was to evacuate the people, who's responsiblity was it to ensure food, water and toilette facilities at the Superdome? Who's responsibility was it to ensure that protocol and procedure was followed such that there's be no question concerning Posse Comitatus - which Ted emphatically declared Melancon would be the first to protest about and that Melancon damn well knows it. Melancon said the whole circumstances were ridiculous. This is an emergency, you don't sit around dotting the I's and crossing the T's, you send EVERYTHING.

Interesting that Louisiana officials are obsessed with their own worthless bearacracy. That its worthless is eminently evident from the esteemed (not) Mary Landrieu's comments:

"If one person criticizes [our sheriffs], or says one more thing, including the president of the United States, he will hear from me - one more word about it after this show airs and I - I might likely have to punch him - literally," Landrieu railed on "ABC's "This Week." The threat of physical violence, by the party that protests violence is not the solution to anything.

That pretty much sums up the caliber, class and quality of Louisiana's elected officials. I just can't fathomn why both the Mayor and the Gov felt it so necessary to follow protocol, procedures as dictated by Louisiana beauracracy, after all, it was an emergency and action is just taken, is it not? Aaron Broussard (Parish President) says on national TV that beauracracy is murding his citizens. But interestingly enough, Broussard knows the beauracracy sufficiently well (or not well enough as the case may be) to get himself subpeanad and indicted (along with a Parish judge) 18 Aug 05 for corruption and bribery.

You know what the top nut on the fruit cake is? Blanco appoints as her emergency response advisor, none other than former FEMA head, and Clinton appointee James Lee Witt. And not just a former FEMA head, but the very person who crafted the very beauracracy that was absolutely not followed whatsoever. On 3 Jun 04, IEM, Inc., a Baton Rouge-based emergency management and homeland security consultant, announced they will lead the development of a catastrophic hurricane disaster plan for Southeast Louisiana and the City of New Orleans under a more than half a million dollar contract with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security/Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

In making the announcement today on behalf of teaming partners Dewberry, URS Corporation and James Lee Witt Associates, IEM Director of Homeland Security Wayne Thomas explained that the development of a base catastrophic hurricane disaster plan has urgency due to the recent start of the annual hurricane season which runs through November.

All that notwithstanding, what is the one thing Blanco did not do? That's right, not cooperate sufficiently with the established protocols, and procedures of the very beauracracy that FEMA is required by Law to follow. These people are either incredibly, monumentally, and collosally stupid, or they're wise as serpents, and sly as fox in the chicken coop.

188 posted on 09/04/2005 8:30:44 PM PDT by raygun
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To: Sonar5

Katleen et al rolled the dice and would have won; but the levee was snake-eyes. I heard on the news Mon/Tues am that there was a small barge that was in the canal that broke loose and that is what broke through the levee (anyone else hear same).


189 posted on 09/04/2005 8:34:51 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: Sonar5

Negligent homicide. Nagin and Blancco are going to see a lot of wrongful death lawsuits.


190 posted on 09/04/2005 8:46:06 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: Sonar5

Bump


191 posted on 09/04/2005 8:50:33 PM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Sonar5

Wonderful post of invaluable information. Columnist Rick Casey of the Houston Chronicle wrote today that there was no plan for the evacuation of poor people and that it was "no accident", implying that the powers that be decided to let poor people die.


192 posted on 09/04/2005 8:50:40 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: cookcounty; All

Just grabbed a bit more info on our crying Jefferson Parish President Broussard who has been on PMSNBC all day.

I also believe he may have been negligent in his failure to do his duty under the Emergency Plan as required under the Stafford Laws.

From:
Dated August 24, 2005. (Interesting date)
http://www.nola.com/search/index.ssf?/base/library-87/1124865558219740.xml?nola

"Others who acknowledged receipt of grand jury subpoenas in recent days were Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard and Metairie lawyer David Sherman, subpoenaed because of their official roles in Hand's campaigns, lawyers close to the case have said. Metairie lawyer Gerald Nielsen also got a subpoena because of his role in Chehardy's campaigns, his attorney said."


193 posted on 09/04/2005 8:52:02 PM PDT by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: wildbill

Well, I hope you send this along to him.

Or Post his email address from the Article, and a few Freepers can send him the info.


194 posted on 09/04/2005 8:53:14 PM PDT by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: gitmo
"Why was the LA National Guard never deployed, even after they criticized the Federal Government for not sending military assistance?"

There was a partial mobilization, though I don't think it was very big. The security at the SuperDome Sunday night was handled by a (regrettably small) contingent of the Guard.

195 posted on 09/04/2005 8:53:25 PM PDT by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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To: Sonar5

Excellent info.....


196 posted on 09/04/2005 8:57:16 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Sonar5
An article regarding the payout of an eminent domain taking by the Levee Board in the 1920's, with descendants winning a court order in 1987, was posted on FR. The descendants posited the monies that were to be used to pay off the settlement was diverted during the court process, to buy the casino and the Levee Board was claiming poverty if they were forced to pay the settlement. (Approximately $20 million)

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=5th&navby=case&no=0130728cv0

excerpt: With regard to the more general question of the levee district's budget, the Orleans Levee District receives very little funding from the state. The levee district generates its own revenues from the Lakefront airport, a casino, leases of property, fees from boatslips and marinas, and taxes. The district also receives income from various investment accounts currently worth $57 million. The levee board does not dispute these facts. At oral argument, counsel for the levee board pointed out that the district receives some state funds, even though they are usually in the form of capital outlays dedicated to specific projects. Because the state funds are already earmarked for other purposes, the state monies cannot be used to pay a judgment against the levee district. See Hudson, 174 F.3d at 688-89.

197 posted on 09/04/2005 9:05:32 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander ((Edith Jones was on the 3 judge panel))
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To: Sonar5

198 posted on 09/04/2005 9:06:29 PM PDT by sinkspur (It is time for those of us who have much to share with those who have nothing.)
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To: JerseyHighlander

Thank You.

Just what I was looking for.


199 posted on 09/04/2005 9:07:07 PM PDT by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Sonar5

STOP! STOP!

You're making sense! That's wrong!

No matter what, it's Bush's fault, get with it man.

Red6


200 posted on 09/04/2005 9:09:25 PM PDT by Red6
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