Thursday it was a minimal hurricane, projected to strike a second time on the Florida panhandle.
Posted on 09/04/2005 3:56:24 PM PDT by akron
FEMA knew storm's potential, Mayfield says
Sunday, 4:44 p.m.
By Mark Schleifstein Staff writer
Dr. Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center, said Sunday that officials with the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Homeland Security, including FEMA Director Mike Brown and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, listened in on electronic briefings given by his staff in advance of Hurricane Katrina slamming Louisiana and Mississippi and were advised of the storm’s potential deadly effects.
(Excerpt) Read more at nola.com ...
i don't think the point is that FEMA knew, as much as the local politicos knew.
...and Bush had to plea to New Orleans Mayor and Lousina's Governor to get them to order mandatory evacuation, which they finally did on Sunday (too late).
please consider the source folks....it's BYOA time..
Doogle
Conservatives are losing the political game being played.
It is a red herring to say FEMA knew. They did not have authority to evacuate.
With the exception of Mark Schleifstein Staff writer, everyone knew it.
They were all told to evacuate. End of issue!
Maybe, temporarily. But they are winning the recue and relief "game," and in the end will gain respect.
Meanwhile, the DEMs are in full blame mode, too busy blaming than to pitch in with the relief. Let them blather, it suits them well.
There is plenty of blame to go around, but the local officials must be blamed first. Why weren't there busses waiting to evacuate the poor and elderly before the hurricane? I guess Blanco forgot that elderly and poor people live in New Orleans.
No mention of a previous report that Mayfield personally called Mayor Nagin on Saturday night to press him to order evacuation of the city?
>>>FEMA Knew Storm's Potential, Mayfield (Hurricane Ctr) Says
Yeah, so?
So did NOLAs mayor, and LAs Gov - and what the hell did they do in a timely fashion?.......Why do I hear crickets chirping????
What the heck does that have to do with anything? FEMA is suppose to help the LOCAL GOVERNMENT after about 72 hours. The LOCAL GOVERNMENT HAS A RESPONSIBLITY TO Take care of its own citizens until then.
I don't know if you read the article. The point is FEMA claims the federal response was poor because they were unaware of the storm's potential. Mayfield, the director of the hurricane center is disputing that.
I knew.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency knew the power of a hurricane before the hurricane? This is outrageous to know. /sarcasm
Thanks keith
Conservatives are losing the political game being played.
This will backfire in a huge way. When the smoke settles I believe Blanco will be removed as well as the Mayor. Bits and pieces are coming to light regarding the incompetence of the elected officials in La.
"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiousity has its own reason for existing."
Albert Einstein
I am always amazed how in a few short years, people on this forum have gone from being leery of the federal government to unquestioningly accepting its omnipotence.
Everybody knew the storm's potential. It wasn't a secret. I live in WI and I knew the storms potential.
Anybody with a pulse who followed the news, knew that NOLA was an incredible catastrophe waiting to happen.
FEMA knew, and still it blew.
Inspired by Jesse Jackson, thank you very much...
The MSM also did a poor job of conveying vital information. On Saturday morning it was very clear that New Orleans was in grave danger, but the media gave it very little coverage.
FEMA blew chunks. The "EM" stands for Emergency Management, not sitting on your dead ass until somebody asks for help.
You must have a Ph.D. or other advanced degree to be demonstrating such erudition. I am very impressed!
You are obviously also a liberal for whom history started yesterday and government by law not men is only fantasy. Wait for the revolution, when you can have power over your fellow citizens, eh?
I would try to explain how efficient it is for local authorities to develop a situation and request effective support, but it would be such a waste of time. Toddle off now....
I have a question, were police cars going through the poor neighborhoods urging people to evacuate, or did the Mayor just assume that everyone was watching TV and would hear the warnings?
"Republicans say that government doesn't work, then they get elected and prove it." - PJ O'Rourke
Oh please everyone....
A moron could have watched the Weather Channel for 5 minutes the Thursday before the storm and determined that
1. It was a Class 5 huricane with little chance of weakening prior to hitting the coast.
2. Most of the projected tracks put landfall within 50 miles either side of NO.
Now the weather briefing FEMA and other government agencies get are more detailed...bouy, pressure readings etc....
But that really doesn't matter when your talking a class 5 storm half the size of Texas...
NeverGore :^)
Where did you get it was a category 5 hurricane on Thursday? Here are the facts:
This storm developed from from a tropical wave about 175 miles east of Nassau. It strengthened to a Category 1 hurricane before making landfall on the Miami-Dade/Broward county line. After moving southwest across Florida it exited into the Gulf of Mexico where it underwent rapid intensification, reaching Category 5 on August 28, 2005 and stayed there for the entire day. It made its second landfall near Grand Isle, Louisiana with 140 mph winds, or Category 4, on August 29, 2005. Its eyewall then passed over the eastern edge of New Orleans before the hurricane was again over water. A few hours later it made landfall for a third time near the Louisiana/Mississippi border with 125 mph winds, or Category 3. It weakened from this point forward, losing hurricane status over 100 miles inland, near Laural, Mississippi. It was downgraded to a tropical depression near Clarksville, Tennessee as it continued to race northward.
Thursday it was a minimal hurricane, projected to strike a second time on the Florida panhandle.
Brown should be fired immediately.
Bray Your Own Asininity?
Late Thursday night (albiet early Friday morning)....the Weather Channel was reporting that the storm could be a class 5 and the NO was in fringes the projected path....
It was a forecast, not a definite....the only definite in weather is when you go outside and stand in it....but the pressure levels at that time were alarming with no impediments in it's way......The primary meteoroligists were warning to not look at the wind speeds on this one but to watch the pressure readings, they felt this storm was underated for it's capability...
Disaster planning is for eventualities just like war planning......Regardless of it's exact path; the inevitability of it's impact was cast....no shear, dry air pockets, pressure was dropping and the bouy's were recording record waves....
I stand by my statement.....for planning purposes a moron could have seen this coming...
NeverGore :^)
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