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NY Times Ed Board: Fairweather Flood-Control Fans
NRO ^ | 9/2/2005 | NRO

Posted on 09/04/2005 7:37:25 PM PDT by F-117A

Yesterday the New York Times editorial board wrote a fire-breathing editorial that for almost 24 hours ranked as the "most-discussed story" on Technorati and the "most e-mailed article" on nytimes.com. The board wrote that "George W. Bush gave one of the worst speeches of his life yesterday." Instead of "consolation and wisdom," the President offered "a long laundry list of pounds of ice, generators and blankets delivered to the stricken Gulf Coast." The board went on to offer a long laundry list of angry accusations. The editorial board doubted that Bush "understood the depth of the current crisis" — unlike the wizened board, which had been following the crisis on CNN.

The editorial built up to this penultimate paragraph:

While our attention must now be on the Gulf Coast's most immediate needs, the nation will soon ask why New Orleans's levees remained so inadequate. Publications from the local newspaper to National Geographic have fulminated about the bad state of flood protection in this beloved city, which is below sea level. Why were developers permitted to destroy wetlands and barrier islands that could have held back the hurricane's surge? Why was Congress, before it wandered off to vacation, engaged in slashing the budget for correcting some of the gaping holes in the area's flood protection?

Good question. Maybe because Congress listened to the NY Times editorial board in April of 2005:

Anyone who cares about responsible budgeting and the health of America's rivers and wetlands should pay attention to a bill now before the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works. The bill would shovel $17 billion at the Army Corps of Engineers for flood control and other water-related projects — this at a time when President Bush is asking for major cuts in Medicaid and other important domestic programs. Among these projects is a $2.7 billion boondoggle on the Mississippi River that has twice flunked inspection by the National Academy of Sciences... [snip]

This is a bad piece of legislation.

Lesson: Don't listen to the NY Times editorial board. (via Don Luskin)


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 109th; bushhaters; fifthcolumnists; floodcontrol; katrina; mediabias; neworleana; nyt; ownage
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1 posted on 09/04/2005 7:37:26 PM PDT by F-117A
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To: F-117A

Wasn't it the liberals, too, who used to complain about paying big agri-businesses to"not grow crops"? That big Ag was cashing in on CRP money, collecting fed funds to not grow stuff. Didn't that used to be a problem? And now, there should have been more CRP wetlands? Maybe someone with a better idea of ag subsidies can help me out here.


2 posted on 09/04/2005 7:42:30 PM PDT by jwalburg (If I have not seen as far as others, it is because of the giants standing on my shoulders.)
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To: F-117A
NY Times =IRRELEVENT!
3 posted on 09/04/2005 7:45:01 PM PDT by RushCrush (Janice Rogers Brown Now!)
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To: F-117A

Everybody at the Times seems to be a politically motivated huckster. They should have learned journalism.


4 posted on 09/04/2005 7:49:45 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: F-117A

Old Grey Lady Losing Her Memory


5 posted on 09/04/2005 7:50:29 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: F-117A
The countdown to the end of the ability of the assclown editors at the NYT to be relevant is well under way.

They may soon need to get real jobs.

6 posted on 09/04/2005 7:50:41 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: F-117A

That is so perfect.


7 posted on 09/04/2005 7:51:55 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: F-117A

Thanks for posting this. The NYTimes gets roasted, by their own words.


8 posted on 09/04/2005 7:52:48 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: F-117A

LOL! Do they not have access to Lexis Nexis?


9 posted on 09/04/2005 7:54:12 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Quid quid latine dictum sit, altum videtur)
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To: F-117A

This is so yummy.


10 posted on 09/04/2005 7:56:06 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: F-117A

Don't you understand.... The New York Times Editor in Chief has finally realized that the people on the NYT Editorial Board make up stories just like the New York Times reporters do.... so it is perfectly permissible for today's Editor-in-Chief to ignore what his Sub-Editors said in April, because he knows it probably wasn't true when they wrote it!

It's all so very simple!

:!)


11 posted on 09/04/2005 7:57:24 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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To: F-117A

NY $li/\/\3z = p\/\/Nt


12 posted on 09/04/2005 8:00:09 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: F-117A

Great find! The days when the Marxist Media could get away with this are OVER!

Another Dan Rather moment.


13 posted on 09/04/2005 8:05:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: F-117A

The New York Times rhymes with Crimes, so appropriate for the crap this rag puts out on a daily basis.

What sane person would pay earned wages for this rag?

The days of the New York Times and other RAT mouthpieces spewing lies and distortions and 180 degree turns to fit RAT talking points of the day (as in this case) are over.

Gotcha!


14 posted on 09/04/2005 8:18:01 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: F-117A

Is it possible that the Left can be more transparent about their hatred of Bush by easily tracked position flip-flops like this?

Of course, in the past, there wasn't a blogosphere to catch and publicize them.


15 posted on 09/04/2005 8:28:06 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: wildbill

Or in the words of their hero: "They actually voted for flood control before they voted against it."


16 posted on 09/04/2005 8:43:12 PM PDT by neodad (Rule Number 1: Be Armed)
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To: F-117A

I thought I read somewhere that Bill Clinton had turned
this down also in 1996 or so.


17 posted on 09/04/2005 8:45:02 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: F-117A

Wonderful find. The MSM is so over.


18 posted on 09/04/2005 8:45:05 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: F-117A

Yeah Baby! Good work exposing the lunatic habitual liars!


19 posted on 09/04/2005 8:45:28 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Hate yourself? Hate everybody else, too? You'll be at home with the Democrats!)
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To: F-117A

This is so great that words fail me!!
Thanks for posting this.


20 posted on 09/04/2005 8:55:35 PM PDT by syriacus (The young folks were IMPRESSED by their rescuers. Look for an increased military + guard enlistment)
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To: F-117A

NYTimes and MSM is at war with Bush.
They used Katrina to score a big PR victory.
And the truth and honesty are the last things on their minds. They will sell their mother if this will somehow hurt the President.


21 posted on 09/04/2005 8:56:04 PM PDT by ConvictHitlery
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To: F-117A
ROFL

Typical Slimes/MSM chicanery.

22 posted on 09/04/2005 8:57:47 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: F-117A

Exactly what I've learned to expect from the Slimes.


23 posted on 09/04/2005 9:07:33 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: neodad

They're not stupid, they're nuanced.


24 posted on 09/04/2005 9:23:02 PM PDT by Cosmo (Liberalism is for girls)
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To: F-117A

The Times.... the Times... Are they some media organization or something?


25 posted on 09/04/2005 9:48:06 PM PDT by narby (Democrats are incompetent - just look at New Orleans)
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To: F-117A

Ha ha ha.... Why am I not surprised????


26 posted on 09/04/2005 10:38:31 PM PDT by mwyounce
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To: F-117A

Sweet post! So, they must agree with Bush while disagreeing with him. No problem. They are schizoid.


27 posted on 09/04/2005 10:51:47 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: F-117A

Oh man, we gotta get this out!


28 posted on 09/04/2005 11:02:52 PM PDT by Just Lori ("A people that values it's privileges above it's principals soon loses both. " Eisenhower 1/20/53)
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To: Spanaway Lori

Oh man, we gotta get this out!

I e-mailed this info to assorted Fox Cable News talk shows. Hope they bring it up.


29 posted on 09/04/2005 11:10:26 PM PDT by flaglady47
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To: F-117A

Great. And it illustrates one of the most annoying memes I hear about this issue. To put federal budgeting into household budgeting terms - it's not about whether or not you fix the roof - it's about whether you fix the roof or fix the water heater. If you fix the roof, the water heater could burst. If you fix the water heater, the roof could break. But of course in liberal-land, federal money (i.e. your tax dollars) is infinite and thus no choices have to be made.


30 posted on 09/05/2005 1:00:49 AM PDT by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: F-117A
Better yet -- did you realize that the New York Times ran not a single article on Hurricane Katrina the day before it struck. This, despite the paper's editorial claim that "everyone knew [the disaster] was coming." I have the rather amusing details up on my blog.
31 posted on 09/05/2005 2:31:21 AM PDT by neuroconservative (http://neuro-conservative.blogspot.com)
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To: F-117A

Great find and post. The lunatics who run the NY Slimes must hate the internet. No longer can they say something in April in their editorials and take the opposite side in Aug/Sep to smear our President.


32 posted on 09/05/2005 3:20:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: F-117A
Paging the Times-Picayune....
33 posted on 09/05/2005 3:45:07 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: F-117A

They really have contempt for their readers.


34 posted on 09/05/2005 3:58:28 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888
What sane person would pay earned wages for this rag?

Probably the same ones who don't "earn" wages, they are the gimmee crowd, to them govt is there for one reason...to support them and their families for generations.

35 posted on 09/05/2005 4:45:46 AM PDT by stopem
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To: jwalburg; Howlin
It is time to use some ammunition from the environmentalists against the prognosticators at the NY Slimes.

From the Grinning Planet©, Saving the Planet One Joke at a Time, Copyright 2004 © Mark Jeantheau — All rights reserved

ECO-LOGICAL
NEW ORLEANS--JUST NORTH OF ATLANTIS?
March 09, 2004
The Problem with Louisiana's Disappearing Coastal Wetlands

Will New Orleans sink into the sea like the mythical Atlantis? Will mermaids be lifting their shirts to get strings of beads? Not likely, but over the last 50 years, the state of Louisiana has been losing more than 40 square miles of coastal wetlands each year. And since the wetlands act as a storm buffer, their disappearance will leave New Orleans more exposed to the effects of big hurricanes.

[as they say in Bloggersville, read the whole thing}
36 posted on 09/05/2005 4:58:35 AM PDT by gpapa (Boost FR Traffic! Make FR your home page!)
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To: F-117A
There's also this puzzling little tidbit in their current writings: "Why were developers permitted to destroy wetlands and barrier islands that could have held back the hurricane's surge?"

My points:

(1) Somebody needs to show me where a barrier island or wetland was eliminated in the LA/MS area. And New Orleans, in particular is actually 50-70 miles inland. It's problem was clearly the levee breech.
(2) Barrier islands, in and of themselves, do little to hold back a 20-30 foot storm surge. In their "natural state", they are merely flat sand bars 1-3 feet above sea level that the water crosses with little effort.
(3) Developed barrier islands, one could argue, would actually help slow the storm surge from reaching the mainland with such ferosity -- particularly with large, wide casinos being in the way. But even this didn't really help.
(4) Wetlands? Used to "hold back" a hurricane's surge? LOL! It's written as if they believe the entire Mississippi River Delta was drained! Actually, such a move might have saved New Orleans, but of course the enviro-whackos would have freaked.
(5) Finally, the NYT owes an explanation about what specific barrier island programs were on the chopping block that would have had any impact whatsoever to stopping a Category 5 hurricane in this area. Crickets chirping...

(P.S. - I know it was 'officially' a Cat 4, but I'll bet a gallon of gas that it will eventually be reviewed and upgraded -- maybe in a few years).

37 posted on 09/05/2005 5:32:07 AM PDT by alancarp (Will hack code for oil)
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To: Spanaway Lori

Rush will parade this one for everyone to hear - he likes the NRO.


38 posted on 09/05/2005 5:32:59 AM PDT by alancarp (Will hack code for oil)
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To: neodad
Or in the words of their hero: "They actually voted for flood control before they voted against it."

Well put!

39 posted on 09/05/2005 5:35:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: F-117A

Great find by NRO! NYT hypocrites. Better bookmark this one for all the sanctimonious NYT stories that are sure to follow.


40 posted on 09/05/2005 6:14:43 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: F-117A
Liars have to have good memories.

No wonder the Republicans chose the elephant.

Leni

41 posted on 09/05/2005 8:10:38 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: eyespysomething
LOL! Do they not have access to Lexis Nexis?

I believe it was Ann Coulter who once pointed out that democrats and the MSM assume that conservatives don't have access to Lexis Nexus. (How is that spelled, anyway?)

42 posted on 09/05/2005 8:17:36 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: F-117A

The NYTimes was always liberal but it actually was well balanced 20-30 years ago. Now the news articles have that annoying leftist slant. I stopped reading it years ago. The Washington Post is a much better liberal rag


43 posted on 09/05/2005 8:21:05 AM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: alancarp
(P.S. - I know it was 'officially' a Cat 4, but I'll bet a gallon of gas that it will eventually be reviewed and upgraded -- maybe in a few years).

It was a Cat 5, but storms always slow down when they hit land, and Katrina started hitting land a full day before the eye passed over. It's a matter of interpretation, but it was a Cat 4 when the eye made landfall.

It wasn't wind, however, that did in NOLA.

44 posted on 09/05/2005 8:21:59 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: F-117A

BTTT


45 posted on 09/05/2005 8:39:08 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: eyespysomething

very few people actually do. Lexis-Nexis is like, incredibly expensive, isn't it?


46 posted on 09/05/2005 9:05:41 AM PDT by benjibrowder (God rest Chief Justice William Rehnquist, a great man and an outstanding American!)
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To: js1138

Reason for that declaration: the central pressure at landfall was lower than Andrew's, which was upgraded after-the-fact. Both that and the damage profile fit a '5' storm... It's very difficult to capture the sustained wind speeds. But that's simply a side issue ennyhow.


47 posted on 09/05/2005 9:26:07 AM PDT by alancarp (Will hack code for oil)
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To: F-117A

Of course NY times is being consistent: Protecting folks in americas heartland from flooding in 1993 and 1997 was a waste of money but it is not a awast of money for Jesse jacksons proletariat
http://eurota.blogspot.com/2005/09/msm-in-their-own-words-continuing.html


48 posted on 09/05/2005 9:28:52 AM PDT by stan_sipple
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To: F-117A

bflr


49 posted on 09/05/2005 10:46:26 AM PDT by cgk (Help Victims of Hurricane Katrina! www.adoptastormfamily.com.)
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To: F-117A
So the NY Times editorial board voted against flood control before they voted for it...
50 posted on 09/05/2005 10:47:27 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Rest in peace, Justice Rehnquist May Scalia or Thomas be appointed to replace you)
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