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Katrina and the Second Amendment
http://soapbox.townhall.com ^ | 9 4 05 | Laura Hirschfeld-Hollis

Posted on 09/05/2005 10:52:11 AM PDT by freepatriot32

Finally, some people are taking necessary action. Let the word go out - if you are threatening the authorities, innocent victims or people trying to help with evacuation and rescue efforts, this is what will happen to you.

Much has already been said about the dismal response of local, state and federal authorities in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, and the terrible suffering that tens of thousands of people are enduring as a result. I don't intend to add to that thread. Instead, what has struck me about this disaster is that it has demonstrated what Second Amendment defenders have been saying for years:

The government and the police cannot protect you.

Reliance on government and police power is the standard line of so-called "gun control" enthusiasts. This is a lie even under the best of circumstances. (Here's a link to a site with some excellent information on the subject.)

But post-Hurricane Katrina New Orleans proves that when the most basic infrastructure - i.e., government - is gone, you'd better have a way to protect and defend yourself, your loved ones, and your property, because otherwise, you'll just be a statistic.

The armed lowlifes that are preying on the sick, the weak, the homeless and isolated are not even deterred by common decency in the face of widespread suffering. They thrive on chaos. They are firing at police, at National Guardsmen, at rescue helicopters, at food and relief vehicles, at the hundreds of ordinary folk who showed up in their own boats to help transport victims. Does anyone seriously think that these creeps will pay attention to gun control laws?

Of course not.

I have family and friends in New Orleans, and they are all saying the same thing: The media is not telling you how bad it really is down here. And they are not referring to the heat, the lack of basic services, the fetid water, the corpses floating in it, and the alligators. (Although I don't think the media is talking about the alligators much, either.)

They are talking about the armed gangs - the would-be looters, rapists and murders who have come out in the dark like roaches in the absence of police, electricity, and alarms. New Orleans has become a third-world country. Ordinary folk have taken to defending their homes and neighborhoods with guns. In sections of New Orleans and the surrounding suburbs where the flooding has not been as bad, residents have stayed in or returned to their homes and posted signs on them: You loot - we shoot. And they do. Stories like the one Mona Charen recounts are popping up everywhere. Can you imagine what it would be like if the citizens of New Orleans could not defend themselves?

Watching this unfold, I could not help but think -- If Osama bin Laden and his cronies are smart - and I think they are - they are saying to themselves, "We don't need to destroy their country. We just need to knock out a few basic city services. And then we can just sit back and watch while they destroy themselves."

Gun control advocates - wake up. And those of you who believe that there is a reason the Second Amendment protects citizens' right to bear arms, you'd better speak up. As New Orleans goes, so goes the rest of the nation


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2 posted on 09/05/2005 10:54:18 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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3 posted on 09/05/2005 10:56:43 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: freepatriot32
After you make your contribution to your favorite charity in support of the Katrina survivors, consider sending a little something to your favorite Second Amendment support organization to help ensure you survive the next disaster.
4 posted on 09/05/2005 10:56:44 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: freepatriot32

bah!

you teased me!

I thought you had some pictures of those dead punks they shot!


5 posted on 09/05/2005 10:56:46 AM PDT by Texas_Conservative2
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee

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6 posted on 09/05/2005 10:57:56 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: freepatriot32

Freedom bump!


7 posted on 09/05/2005 11:00:49 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
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To: freepatriot32
Do you know if there are gun control laws in the housing authority down there? Somewhere (Boston and other places) firearms have been banned in "the projects." If so, even the law-abiding and innocent were sitting ducks in New Orleans.

Also someone was on FOX yesterday saying the alligator stories weren't true. You're saying they are. Most of us have no way of knowing if they are or aren't, but I'd hate to be trying to save my children and run up on one of these things without the ability to put several rounds in it.

8 posted on 09/05/2005 11:02:58 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: freepatriot32

This piece offers balance to Anne Rice's romantic lament of losing New Orleans.


9 posted on 09/05/2005 11:03:06 AM PDT by Nephi (Global warming is a political strategy.)
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To: PistolPaknMama
Do you know if there are gun control laws in the housing authority down there?

Yes they have chicago style gun control in the projects down thier any public houseing that gets hud funding has to have gun control in order to recieve the money.(even under a republican administration hmmmm)so of course the only armed people in the projects are the gang members and civilians that are worried about violating the law are unarmed and defensless.

10 posted on 09/05/2005 11:08:22 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Deep within every dilemma is a solution that involves explosives)
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To: freepatriot32

B.L.O.A.T.


11 posted on 09/05/2005 11:12:20 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Be aware that if you are carrying in this lawless situation, you maybe mistaken for one of the bad guys.

Its A risk worth taking. but a real risk all the same.


12 posted on 09/05/2005 11:44:57 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: PistolPaknMama

Loads of fresh or brackish water without alligators in southern La is unthinkable.


13 posted on 09/05/2005 11:54:23 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Mr. Mojo

This is an 'in your face' validation of the Second Amendment. All of America and the entire world saw what the criminals were doing. There are many stories coming out where home and business owners saved their lives and property because they were armed.


14 posted on 09/05/2005 11:57:27 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Love your neighbor as you would love yourself...

And you cannot watch over your neighbor and protect him and his loved ones against armed thugs if you are not armed and trained..

Obviously you cannot protect your own family either if you are unarmed and untrained..

Be a protector of your own family and a good neighbor... Arm yourself and practice...

15 posted on 09/05/2005 12:48:17 PM PDT by joesnuffy (A bible that is falling apart, usually belongs to someone who isn't - Spurgeon)
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To: freepatriot32

I applaud your defending the right of citizens to own and have guns. This crosses all political lines whether you are Libertarian,Republican or Democrat. It is important we remember our right to defend ourselves.


16 posted on 09/05/2005 1:12:23 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Everything I need to know about Islam I learned on 9-11!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Thanks for the ping!


17 posted on 09/05/2005 1:24:17 PM PDT by Vor Lady (I'm too young to feel this d*&m old.)
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To: mylife

Concealed carry is your friend.


18 posted on 09/05/2005 1:53:24 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan

Yes, concealed and polite


19 posted on 09/05/2005 1:57:30 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: ThanhPhero

"Loads of fresh or brackish water without alligators in southern La is unthinkable."

True but considering all the gallons of motor oil and gas and fuel that escaped into the water without any flow means that critters are probably avoiding.

We had 6' of water and its amazing how there was a film of oil everywhere.


20 posted on 09/05/2005 4:19:40 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: PistolPaknMama; Cindy
Somewhere (Boston and other places) firearms have been banned in "the projects."

That was a relic of the Clinton Administration. Those projects are built with federal funds and are often subject to federal gun laws. I don't know if the federal public housing gun ban was rescinded or not.

Cindy, thanks for the ping.

21 posted on 09/05/2005 5:03:23 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Professional Engineer

ping


22 posted on 09/05/2005 5:09:11 PM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: Mr. Mojo
My parents live south of Jackson MS about 60 miles. When Katrina went through they lost their power. My brother (who lives next door to them) got them a generator and a window air unit so they could escape the heat. Gasoline was a serious problem though, none was available at any price. He (my brother) drove to Monroe, LA and bought 200-250 gallons and was on his way home when he encountered a serviceman's wife and child out of gas, on the side of the road. He stopped and filled her car up so she could get home to her family. As he was getting ready to resume his trip home a man pulled over in front of him and demanded gas. My brother told him that he had none to spare , and the guy said "oh yes you do, and I am going to take it". At this point my brother lifted his shirt revealing his .45, told the guy that if he didn't leave he wouldn't be needing any gas. Having a change of heart, the guy left.

I also had two "gentlemen" who were going to relieve me of my families gas supply that I had for our generator. At the sound of the ole Mossberg 590 chambering a 00 buckshot round, they left. I didn't even get close enough to them to be able to identify them. (It was about 3:30 am)

Nothing says "go rob someone else" like the Mossberg 590!

Cordially,
GE
23 posted on 09/05/2005 6:38:51 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle
Nothing says "go rob someone else" like the Mossberg 590!

A Remington 870 is a close second, but I agree, the Mossbergs make a little more of a clatter. More torsional instability with one slide rail on the fore-end tube instead of two, I think.

-ccm

24 posted on 09/05/2005 11:25:28 PM PDT by ccmay (Question Diversity)
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To: ccmay
A Remington 870

I've never owned one but I understand they are a fine weapon!
25 posted on 09/06/2005 8:24:12 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: joesnuffy

An armed man can defend his citizenship....
An unarmed man will become a subject...


Semper Fi


26 posted on 09/08/2005 5:57:12 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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