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New Orleans Mayor: "CIA Will Wipe Me Out"
All Headline News ^ | September 3, 2005 10:02 p.m. EST | Douglas Maher - All Headline News Staff Reporter

Posted on 09/05/2005 1:51:59 PM PDT by PureSolace

New Orleans, Louisiana (AHN) - Apparently suffering from stress and a bit of paranoia, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin tells CNN Saturday night that he believes the CIA will "wipe him out" after his criticism of President Bush and the Federal Government in response to Hurricane Katrina.

Mayor Nagin seemed to have calmed down after meeting with President Bush for two hours on Friday but became stressed again over the current situation still unfolding in his city.

The Mayor has come under serious scrutiny and criticism in the last 72 hours after photos of parking lots filled with school buses that were sitting in a foot of water were released on the Internet. Many critics of the Mayor and Gov. Blanco say the buses could have saved an estimated 20,000 people if they had been used for emergency evacuations which President Bush had declared two days before Katrina hit.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: artbell; cia; conspiracytheories; crackkills; katrina; kooktokookam; mayor; moonbat; nagin; new; orleans; paranoidnutcasenagin; suicidewatch; tinfoil; tinfoilalert; whackedoutmayor
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1 posted on 09/05/2005 1:51:59 PM PDT by PureSolace
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To: PureSolace

Nagin goes cuckoo for cocoa puffs.


2 posted on 09/05/2005 1:53:17 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: PureSolace

Still laffing!!!!


3 posted on 09/05/2005 1:54:13 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: PureSolace

Already posted:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477195/posts


4 posted on 09/05/2005 1:54:53 PM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: PureSolace; All
“The Mayor has come under serious scrutiny and criticism in the last 72 hours after photos of parking lots filled with school buses that were sitting in a foot of water were released on the Internet.”

Yeah... when is the MSM 'gonna give us a glimpse of it?!!

5 posted on 09/05/2005 1:55:57 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And now, little man, I give the watch to you.”)
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To: PureSolace
photos of parking lots filled with school buses that were sitting in a foot of water were released on the Internet.

First showed up on Free Republic, followed immediately by Drudge.

Pajama people did it again!

6 posted on 09/05/2005 1:56:09 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: PureSolace
---think what an Oliver Stone movie it would make--The Ghost of Clay Shaw, David Ferrie's Wig and Mayor Nagin---
7 posted on 09/05/2005 1:56:39 PM PDT by rellimpank (urbanites don' t understand the cultural deprivation of not being raised on a farm:NRABenefactor)
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To: PureSolace
Mayor Nagin

No need to worry.
The CIA only goes after people of relevance.
Ignorant twits can sleep easy.
8 posted on 09/05/2005 1:57:06 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: Rosemont

It is going to happen. He is going to commit suicide once this whole thing shakes out and it turns out that he was the one responsible for the local mess.

He is too big a coward to do it by himself so he is preparing his exit strategy.


9 posted on 09/05/2005 1:57:28 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: PureSolace
And this guy keeps saying he's not on drugs.
10 posted on 09/05/2005 1:57:42 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: PureSolace

LOL! I think Mayor Bling-Bling better be more worried about his thug constituents than the CIA.


11 posted on 09/05/2005 1:57:59 PM PDT by GaltMeister (“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”)
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To: PureSolace

New Orleans Mayor: "CIA Will Wipe Me Out"

We can only wish it were so.


12 posted on 09/05/2005 1:58:47 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse
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To: PureSolace

Did Pat Robertson tip him off?


13 posted on 09/05/2005 1:58:55 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: PureSolace

keep talking mayor.


14 posted on 09/05/2005 1:59:37 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: PureSolace
I know I posted this on a couple of threads, but I wanted everyone to see the ignorance of the Media's slow response argument. Don't worry I will stop posting pic in a minute or two.

Haven't seen this mentioned yet, so I will join the discussion. This storm was a Eastbank event for New Orleans, not an Westbank event. There was very little wind damage from the storm on the west wall, the Westbank was relatively untouched (shingles still on most roofs), flooding was the problem. Since we are looking at possible transportation issues for those stranded at the Dome, see the image below.

However, besides plenty of buses (shown below), there were many water towers that were unaffected, tons of trucking centers with available trucks (hotwire if you need too) and supplies in warehouses that had a COMPLETELY DRY ROUTE TO THE DOME! Why didn't the Mayor/Governor use the resources available?


15 posted on 09/05/2005 2:00:13 PM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: PureSolace

16 posted on 09/05/2005 2:00:13 PM PDT by SerpentDove (In the shadow of the Almighty.)
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To: PureSolace
What a corrupt and incompetent disgrace.

Nagin should be removed from office.
17 posted on 09/05/2005 2:00:39 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
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To: PureSolace

"Hep Me Hep me"
"Make one move and the n*gger gets it"
"Lawdey, he mean it
Lawsey Lawsey"

Baby, you are sooo good

And they are sooooo dumb.


18 posted on 09/05/2005 2:01:20 PM PDT by Shazbot29 (Light a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day; light him on fire, he'll be warm the rest of his life)
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To: SerpentDove

These buses were in only a foot or two of water, still drivable. But, there were plenty of buses available on dry land as shown in my post.


19 posted on 09/05/2005 2:01:23 PM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: BushCountry

I don't think you should stop posting them. They are a vital part of the discussion.

But, that's just my opinion.


20 posted on 09/05/2005 2:03:09 PM PDT by SerpentDove (In the shadow of the Almighty.)
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To: PureSolace

I wonder if he's losing his mind over what he did, or rather, didn't do.


21 posted on 09/05/2005 2:03:12 PM PDT by kenth (north Georgia mountains - prayers for all our neighbors in the gulf coast.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

This mayor needs to be held CRIMINALLY RESPONSIBLE! He released prisoners on those he left behind in the initial evacuation!

An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State

by Robert Tracinski
Sep 02, 2005

by Robert Tracinski

It has taken four long days for state and federal officials to figure out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame them, because it has also taken me four long days to figure out what is going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you think that we are confronting a natural disaster.

If this is just a natural disaster, the response for public officials is obvious: you bring in food, water, and doctors; you send transportation to evacuate refugees to temporary shelters; you send engineers to stop the flooding and rebuild the city's infrastructure. For journalists, natural disasters also have a familiar pattern: the heroism of ordinary people pulling together to survive; the hard work and dedication of doctors, nurses, and rescue workers; the steps being taken to clean up and rebuild.

Public officials did not expect that the first thing they would have to do is to send thousands of armed troops in armored vehicle, as if they are suppressing an enemy insurgency. And journalists--myself included--did not expect that the story would not be about rain, wind, and flooding, but about rape, murder, and looting.

But this is not a natural disaster. It is a man-made disaster.

The man-made disaster is not an inadequate or incompetent response by federal relief agencies, and it was not directly caused by Hurricane Katrina. This is where just about every newspaper and television channel has gotten the story wrong.

The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did not happen over the past four days. It happened over the past four decades. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.

The man-made disaster is the welfare state.

For the past few days, I have found the news from New Orleans to be confusing. People were not behaving as you would expect them to behave in an emergency--indeed, they were not behaving as they have behaved in other emergencies. That is what has shocked so many people: they have been saying that this is not what we expect from America. In fact, it is not even what we expect from a Third World country.

When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion. They work together to rescue people in danger, and they spontaneously organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care of us. I have seen this a hundred times, in small examples (a small town whose main traffic light had gone out, causing ordinary citizens to get out of their cars and serve as impromptu traffic cops, directing cars through the intersection) and large ones (the spontaneous response of New Yorkers to September 11).

So what explains the chaos in New Orleans?

To give you an idea of the magnitude of what is going on, here is a description from a Washington Times story:

"Storm victims are raped and beaten; fights erupt with flying fists, knives and guns; fires are breaking out; corpses litter the streets; and police and rescue helicopters are repeatedly fired on.

"The plea from Mayor C. Ray Nagin came even as National Guardsmen poured in to restore order and stop the looting, carjackings and gunfire....

"Last night, Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco said 300 Iraq-hardened Arkansas National Guard members were inside New Orleans with shoot-to-kill orders.

" 'These troops are...under my orders to restore order in the streets,' she said. 'They have M-16s, and they are locked and loaded. These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will.' "

The reference to Iraq is eerie. The photo that accompanies this article shows National Guard troops, with rifles and armored vests, riding on an armored vehicle through trash-strewn streets lined by a rabble of squalid, listless people, one of whom appears to be yelling at them. It looks exactly like a scene from Sadr City in Baghdad.

What explains bands of thugs using a natural disaster as an excuse for an orgy of looting, armed robbery, and rape? What causes unruly mobs to storm the very buses that have arrived to evacuate them, causing the drivers to drive away, frightened for their lives? What causes people to attack the doctors trying to treat patients at the Super Dome?

Why are people responding to natural destruction by causing further destruction? Why are they attacking the people who are trying to help them?

My wife, Sherri, figured it out first, and she figured it out on a sense-of-life level. While watching the coverage last night on Fox News Channel, she told me that she was getting a familiar feeling. She studied architecture at the Illinois Institute of Chicago, which is located in the South Side of Chicago just blocks away from the Robert Taylor Homes, one of the largest high-rise public housing projects in America. "The projects," as they were known, were infamous for uncontrollable crime and irremediable squalor. (They have since, mercifully, been demolished.)

What Sherri was getting from last night's television coverage was a whiff of the sense of life of "the projects." Then the "crawl"--the informational phrases flashed at the bottom of the screen on most news channels--gave some vital statistics to confirm this sense: 75% of the residents of New Orleans had already evacuated before the hurricane, and of the 300,000 or so who remained, a large number were from the city's public housing projects. Jack Wakeland then gave me an additional, crucial fact: early reports from CNN and Fox indicated that the city had no plan for evacuating all of the prisoners in the city's jails--so they just let many of them loose. There is no doubt a significant overlap between these two populations--that is, a large number of people in the jails used to live in the housing projects, and vice versa.

There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves.

All of this is related, incidentally, to the apparent incompetence of the city government, which failed to plan for a total evacuation of the city, despite the knowledge that this might be necessary. But in a city corrupted by the welfare state, the job of city officials is to ensure the flow of handouts to welfare recipients and patronage to political supporters--not to ensure a lawful, orderly evacuation in case of emergency.

No one has really reported this story, as far as I can tell. In fact, some are already actively distorting it, blaming President Bush, for example, for failing to personally ensure that the Mayor of New Orleans had drafted an adequate evacuation plan. The worst example is an execrable piece from the Toronto Globe and Mail, by a supercilious Canadian who blames the chaos on American "individualism." But the truth is precisely the opposite: the chaos was caused by a system that was the exact opposite of individualism.

What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to overcome the difficulties they face. They don't sit around and complain that the government hasn't taken care of them. They don't use the chaos of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.

But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.

The welfare state--and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains and encourages--is the man-made disaster that explains the moral ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no one is reporting.

Source: TIA Daily -- September 2, 2005


22 posted on 09/05/2005 2:05:14 PM PDT by Linda1956 ("Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13)
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To: PureSolace
The Mayor has come under serious scrutiny and criticism in the last 72 hours after photos of parking lots filled with school buses that were sitting in a foot of water

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23 posted on 09/05/2005 2:05:16 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: Vinnie

I don't think he needs to worry about the CIA "taking him out" (to use a Pat Robertson phrase) but maybe he should seek the CIA's protection from the citizenry of NO, when they return that is.


24 posted on 09/05/2005 2:05:26 PM PDT by FlashBack (www.teamamericapac.org)
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To: PureSolace

1 - "All Headline News" is utterly wothless unreliable crap.

2 - This is a duplicate post, and as I explained on the prior post of this dishonest article, I saw the NO mayor, who I do not admire, make this statement on C-Span. It was said facetiously, in response to an equally facetious question by a reporter.


25 posted on 09/05/2005 2:05:57 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: PureSolace

Oh for the love of God, Nagin, get the hell over yourself!! You're a piece of sh*t mayor whose leadership skills max out at, SUCKS!!

And being that I haven't yet heard a monstrous "POP" sound up here in New Jersey, it's safe to say that your head is still resting comfortably up your ass... If you are still a bit dazed, let me inform you of something... Due to your complete ineptness, you no longer have a city to Mayor, therefore it may be in your best interest to locate the closest rock to where you are right now and crawl underneath it until you reach a maturity level beyond that of a 13 year old going through puberty, and let the adults run the show!!!

You've shown your abilities, Ray.... And sufficed to say, judging by what you allowed the local Walmart to experience, they will have a HUGE need for stock boys... Who knows, maybe that'll be right up your alley...


26 posted on 09/05/2005 2:06:54 PM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

LOL


27 posted on 09/05/2005 2:07:01 PM PDT by BushCountry (They say the world has become too complex for simple answers. They are wrong.)
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To: PureSolace

What a f*cking idiot.


28 posted on 09/05/2005 2:07:49 PM PDT by rightwinggoth
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To: FlashBack

The CIA.what a joke...........
Maybe he joined the same tin foil hat crowd that says the Gov is going to use this to impose total Control over the country.
CCFCCP
CooCooForcocacocapuffs


29 posted on 09/05/2005 2:08:25 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Dont crush that Dwarf,hand me the pliers)
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To: kenth

>>I wonder if he's losing his mind over what he did, or rather, didn't do.<<

I don't pretend to know the man's mind, but I will admit...I always had a gut feeling that when he went into his "homey from the hood" voice and started pointing fingers at everyone but himself...

my honest belief was that the man sounded like he felt guilty. Just an impression I got, I don't know for sure.

If he has a conscience, and I sense that he does, he will have a really hard time with this.

I pity him. I honestly do feel sorry for him, whether I should or not. I wouldn't want to be in his position.


30 posted on 09/05/2005 2:08:43 PM PDT by SerpentDove (In the shadow of the Almighty.)
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To: PureSolace
New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin tells CNN Saturday night that he believes the CIA will "wipe him out" after his criticism of President Bush and the Federal Government in response to Hurricane Katrina.

Non compus mentus - active defense - lack of mental faculty! The guy is NUTZOID!!!!

31 posted on 09/05/2005 2:08:59 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: PureSolace

Not the CIA Mr. Mayor, we have another group that we use for jobs like this.
That group makes the CIA look like a ladies social club lunch.


32 posted on 09/05/2005 2:09:06 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (The Democrat party is the official party of the Morlocks.)
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To: PureSolace

Why "wipe out" such a simpering dimwit? :)


33 posted on 09/05/2005 2:09:40 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: BushCountry; Happy2BMe; Memother; chesty_puller; Bigun; JohnHuang2; mhking; ...

TRUE ? Right ? I mean the kid never drove a bus in his life but still got up the guts to save lives right !

I call that heroism AMERICAN HEROISM at it's best!


34 posted on 09/05/2005 2:10:15 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: PureSolace

Not only that, but the Bilderburgers and Illuminati have put out a contract on him.






Worse yet, his boss is trying to get him to sell Amway.


35 posted on 09/05/2005 2:10:45 PM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg.)
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To: PureSolace

Interestingly, Hugo Chavez made the same claim several years ago. Chavez and Castro only a week before Katrina hit New Orleans made offers to send doctors and offer low priced gas to poor Americans (possibly since Venezuelan state-owned petroleum firm reportedly owns some 14,000 CITGO gas stations in the US). Within a week after the Chavez-Castro meeting, Jesse Jackson travels to meet with Chavez and returns claiming Chavez offered 20 tons of bottled water in aid to hurricane relief efforts.

Amazing synchronicity.


36 posted on 09/05/2005 2:11:05 PM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: PureSolace
New Orleans Mayor: "CIA Charmin Will Wipe Me Out"

Fixed that for you. :-D )))

37 posted on 09/05/2005 2:11:09 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The coffee is strong at Cafe du Monde, the doughnuts are too hot to touch..." Save the Big Greasy!)
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To: MisterRepublican

I think he did. I mean, not technically, but his city's wiped out, so what's the point? That's like being the mayor of the ocean.


38 posted on 09/05/2005 2:11:43 PM PDT by Dan Nunn
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To: PureSolace

39 posted on 09/05/2005 2:12:16 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: PureSolace

There may a lot more than the buses that he has to hide. Who knows!?


40 posted on 09/05/2005 2:12:34 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: PureSolace

This man is a damn fool.


41 posted on 09/05/2005 2:13:31 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
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To: MisterRepublican

Might not be necessary. There's not much of New Orleans left to be mayor of.


42 posted on 09/05/2005 2:14:10 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: PureSolace
Let me show you how a pro does it...

Anti-Nagin Sarcasm Torpedo ARMED. FIRE!!

"CIA will wipe me out."

Naaah, Katrina already did that.

Prayers for ALL !

43 posted on 09/05/2005 2:15:08 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BCrago66

Thanks. What was the question by the reporter BTW?


44 posted on 09/05/2005 2:15:24 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace

Hah..that guy was already booted.


45 posted on 09/05/2005 2:17:05 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: martin_fierro

Perfect!


46 posted on 09/05/2005 2:17:22 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: PureSolace

Resume: Ray Nagin

Last Job: Mayor of New Orleans, LA

Accomplishments: City no longer exists. When a strong Category 4 hurricane struck 20 miles east of the city, I failed to heed the President's urging to order a mandatory evactuation two days before it made landfall. I waited until less than 24 hours before it came ashore. Though my city had an emergency evacuation plan, I did not implement it, even after the hurricane had departed and the levies had not yet broken. I was unable to stop gangs of thugs and looters ransacking the city's stores. However, if President Bush had signed the Kyoto treaty, the hurricane wouldn't have occurred, so none of this was my fault.


47 posted on 09/05/2005 2:18:29 PM PDT by American Quilter
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I'm swiping your photo. Sorry. (Right Click).


48 posted on 09/05/2005 2:20:07 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: SerpentDove
I don't think you should stop posting them. They are a vital part of the discussion. But, that's just my opinion.

I agree. They're going to be relevant for many months.

49 posted on 09/05/2005 2:20:37 PM PDT by American Quilter
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To: BushCountry
These buses were in only a foot or two of water, still drivable. But, there were plenty of buses available on dry land as shown in my post.

Yet, but the poor civil servants (such as NOPD) had WET FEET.

Quote:"Our vehicles can't get any gas. The water in the street is contaminated. My officers are walking around in wet shoes."

Source: The New York Times.

50 posted on 09/05/2005 2:21:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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