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In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind [To poor - "You'll Be on Your Own"]
New Orleans Times-Picayune ^ | July 24, 2005 | Bruce Nolan

Posted on 09/05/2005 4:47:51 PM PDT by willieroe

In storm, N.O. wants no one left behind - Number of people without cars makes evacuation difficult
Times-Picayune, The (New Orleans, LA)
July 24, 2005
Author: Bruce Nolan

City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give the poorest of New Orleans' poor a historically blunt message: In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own.

In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation.

In the video, made by the anti-poverty agency Total Community Action, they urge those people to make arrangements now by finding their own ways to leave the city in the event of an evacuation.

"You're responsible for your safety, and you should be responsible for the person next to you," Wilkins said in an interview. "If you have some room to get that person out of town, the Red Cross will have a space for that person outside the area. We can help you.

"But we don't have the transportation."

Officials are recording the evacuation message even as recent research by the University of New Orleans indicated that as many as 60 percent of the residents of most southeast Louisiana parishes would remain in their homes in the event of a Category 3 hurricane.

Their message will be distributed on hundreds of DVDs across the city. The DVDs' basic get-out-of-town message applies to all audiences, but the it is especially targeted to scores of churches and other groups heavily concentrated in Central City and other vulnerable, low-income neighborhoods, said the Rev. Marshall Truehill, head of Total Community Action.

"The primary message is that each person is primarily responsible for themselves, for their own family and friends," Truehill said.

In addition to the plea from Nagin, Thomas and Wilkins, video exhortations to make evacuation plans come from representatives of State Police and the National Weather Service, and from local officials such as Sen. Ann Duplessis, D-New Orleans, and State Rep. Arthur Morrell, D-New Orleans, said Allan Katz, whose advertising company is coordinating officials' scripts and doing the recording.

The speakers explain what to bring and what to leave behind. They advise viewers to bring personal medicines and critical legal documents, and tell them how to create a family communication plan. Even a representative of the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals weighs in with a message on how to make the best arrangements for pets left behind.

Production likely will continue through August. Officials want to get the DVDs into the hands of pastors and community leaders as hurricane season reaches its height in September, Katz said.

Fleeing the storm

Believing that the low-lying city is too dangerous a place to shelter refugees, the Red Cross positioned its storm shelters on higher ground north of Interstate 10 several years ago. It dropped plans to care for storm victims in schools or other institutions in town.

Truehill, Wilkins and others said emergency preparedness officials still plan to deploy some Regional Transit Authority buses, school buses and perhaps even Amtrak trains to move some people before a storm.

An RTA emergency plan dedicates 64 buses and 10 lift vans to move people somewhere; whether that means out of town or to local shelters of last resort would depend on emergency planners' decision at that moment, RTA spokeswoman Rosalind Cook said.

But even the larger buses hold only about 60 people each, a rescue capacity that is dwarfed by the unmet need.

In an interview at the opening of this year's hurricane season, New Orleans Emergency Preparedness Director Joseph Matthews acknowledged that the city is overmatched.

"It's important to emphasize that we just don't have the resources to take everybody out," he said in a interview in late May.

A helping hand

In the absence of public transportation resources, Total Community Action and the Red Cross have been developing a private initiative called Operation Brother's Keeper that, fully formed, would enlist churches in a vast, decentralized effort to make space for the poor and the infirm in church members' cars when they evacuate.

However, the program is only in the first year of a three-year experiment and involves only four local churches so far.

The Red Cross and Total Community Action are trying to invent a program that would show churches how to inventory their members, match those with space in their cars with those needing a ride, and put all the information in a useful framework, Wilkins said.

But the complexities so far are daunting, she said.

The inventories go only at the pace of the volunteers doing them. Where churches recruit partner churches out of the storm area to shelter them, volunteers in both places need to be trained in running shelters, she said.

People also have to think carefully about what makes good evacuation matches. Wilkins said that when ride arrangements are made, the volunteers must be sure to tell their passengers where their planned destination is if they are evacuated.

Moreover, although the Archdiocese of New Orleans has endorsed the project in principle, it doesn't want its 142 parishes to participate until insurance problems have been solved with new legislation that reduces liability risks, Wilkins said.

At the end of three years, organizers of Operation Brother's Keeper hope to have trained 90 congregations how to develop evacuation plans for their own members.

The church connection

Meanwhile, some churches appear to have moved on their own to create evacuation plans that assist members without cars.

Since the Hurricane Ivan evacuation of 2004, Mormon churches have begun matching members who have empty seats in cars with those needing seats, said Scott Conlin, president of the church's local stake. Eleven local congregations of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints share a common evacuation plan, and many church members have three-day emergency kits packed and ready to go, he said.

Mormon churches in Jackson, Miss., Hattiesburg, Miss., and Alexandria, La., have arranged to receive evacuees. The denomination also maintains a toll-free telephone number that functions as a central information drop, where members on the road can leave information about their whereabouts that church leaders can pick up and relay as necessary, Conlin said.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: flashback; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; lakenagin; nagin
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1 posted on 09/05/2005 4:47:51 PM PDT by willieroe
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To: willieroe
I keep hearing Democrats insist on the need for "a plan." There sure wasn't one in New Orleans. I must have missed the news.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 09/05/2005 4:49:34 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: willieroe

Now I know why all those people were stealing TV's and DVD players. They were wondering what was on those DVD's they got before the hurricane hit.


3 posted on 09/05/2005 4:50:46 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: willieroe

"The primary message is that each person is primarily responsible for themselves, for their own family and friends," Truehill said.


Wow! Sort of changes things for Nagin and BLanco, doesn't it? And contrast THIS story by the NO paper and the recent editorial calling for resignations of everyone...
Verrrrry interesting!


4 posted on 09/05/2005 4:51:25 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: willieroe

Somebody should this to the paper's editorial board who just insisted that Bush fire everyone.


5 posted on 09/05/2005 4:52:55 PM PDT by t2buckeye
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To: willieroe; Chieftain

"EVERYONE IS ON THEIR OWN ?"

I bet that's the first time the welfare group heard THAT one! No wonder there was chaos.


6 posted on 09/05/2005 5:00:17 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (George W. Bush...a Real Leader for Perilous Times !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

""EVERYONE IS ON THEIR OWN ?"

Including all you school buses too.!


7 posted on 09/05/2005 5:04:25 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: willieroe

The URL for this link is on the Times Picayune site:

http://www.nola.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-10/1122184560198030.xml?nola


8 posted on 09/05/2005 5:15:00 PM PDT by djsunzi
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To: t2buckeye

Strange, isn't it, that the paper's headline editor chose a headline that totally de-emphasized the thrust of the article.


9 posted on 09/05/2005 5:17:38 PM PDT by willieroe
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To: willieroe; Sparkles

Doing some research and stumbled on this. Not totally off topic.

http://www.nola.com/newslogs/breakingtp/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_Times-Picayune/archives/2005_08.html

Some juicy bits here for later use. A lot of folks don't remember what was said days ago (not you, those OTHER folks). This stuff is priceless and a good 'local' resource.


10 posted on 09/05/2005 5:23:17 PM PDT by tazman3
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To: willieroe
Oh. My. God.

If this is not the ultimate rope to hang Ray Nagin, I don't know what is. No wonder he looked like looked like he had just swallowed poison in his news conference when he finally announced the mandatory evacuation.

DVDs???? Poor people don't have DVD players. Old people sure as hell don't have them. (My 80-year-old parents, who are not poor, do not even have a VHS player, nor do they want one.) And THEY DO NOT HAVE CARS.

Bottom line, the New Orleans Regional Transit Authority has almost 400 buses. They can hold 40-50 people each. That's 16-20,000 per trip. If those buses had taken just 5 trips on Saturday and Sunday to Baton Rouge, they could have moved close to 100,000 people. And that doesn't even count the school buses. And God knows they could have at least moved the damn things to high ground so they could have been used to get all those folks away from the Superdome and Convention Center.

Much blood is on these people's hands.

11 posted on 09/05/2005 5:24:36 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: djsunzi

Thanks for your help!


12 posted on 09/05/2005 5:28:38 PM PDT by willieroe
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To: willieroe

how did you get it on FR in the first place? you typed it out by hand? :)


13 posted on 09/05/2005 5:31:50 PM PDT by djsunzi
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To: willieroe

The people of New Orleans might do better on their own without the help of the Mayor, the Governor, and the Times-Picayune.


14 posted on 09/05/2005 5:32:56 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: djsunzi

No, did a NewsBank search, but it's a subscriber feature.


15 posted on 09/05/2005 5:33:13 PM PDT by willieroe
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To: goldstategop

The Democrats in Louisiana know that they totally screwed up, which is why they want to shift the blame to Bush. And their fellow beasts in Congress will help them.


16 posted on 09/05/2005 5:36:40 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: willieroe

Let's see...

500 buses x 40 souls/bus x 4 roundtrips per day x 2 days = 160,000 souls.


17 posted on 09/05/2005 5:38:01 PM PDT by Chaguito
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To: willieroe
In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation.

What do they call these?

"But we don't have the transportation."

They don't have it now!

Their message will be distributed on hundreds of DVDs across the city. The DVDs' basic get-out-of-town message applies to all audiences, but the it is especially targeted to scores of churches and other groups heavily concentrated in Central City and other vulnerable, low-income neighborhoods, said the Rev. Marshall Truehill, head of Total Community Action.

Well, now we know why so many looters...oops, I mean "dispossessed" were stealing DVD players and plasma TV sets...they needed to waych the DVD!

18 posted on 09/05/2005 5:38:05 PM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm paraphrasing someone else's tagline: Read comment, think, then post reply...always in that order)
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To: djsunzi

thanks.

Archived for later.


19 posted on 09/05/2005 5:38:56 PM PDT by tazman3
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To: willieroe
Truehill, Wilkins and others said emergency preparedness officials still plan to deploy some Regional Transit Authority buses, school buses and perhaps even Amtrak trains to move some people before a storm.
20 posted on 09/05/2005 5:43:21 PM PDT by grellis (Alles mit Gott und nichts ohn' ihn)
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To: Howlin

Ping list BIG TIME.


21 posted on 09/05/2005 5:44:25 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: willieroe

After reading this no wonder the Democrats are against "No Child Left Behind".


22 posted on 09/05/2005 5:44:55 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: willieroe

someone needs to get a hold of this DVD.

The video clips of local officials would be invaluable in placing blame at the end of this torrid affair.


23 posted on 09/05/2005 5:53:24 PM PDT by lonestar67
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To: willieroe
The Southern Louisiana Evacuation Plan specifically stated that people without private transportation were to be transported on public buses.

There were not just "200 buses". There were 200 buses in just one photo and Freepers studying the post-Katrina satellite images have counted over 400 buses altogether at other city parking.

At 70 people per bus that is 28,000 people per round trip that could have been taken out of the storm surge area in the 48 hours prior the Katrina striking.

After the storm hit, what makes you think that buses sent from outside of New Orleans could drive through the flooded mess any better than the 145 New Orleans city buses that were parked 1.2 miles away from the Superdome?

Was Scotty supposed to beam the outside buses to the Superdome and them beam them back out so that they would not have to drive through impassable roads?

The time to evacuate those 200,000 low-income people on public buses OUT OF THE STORM SURGE ZONE was BEFORE the Category 4 storm struck.

That was what the Southern Louisiana Evacuation Plan for New Orleans specifically called for.

The Democrat Governor and the Democrat Mayor did NOTHING to carry out that portion of the plan. They left 200,000 low-income resident abandoned and they now blame the Federal Government for not having Scotty beam down a massive logistics effort after a human disaster of their own making.

24 posted on 09/05/2005 5:55:21 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: ckilmer

I will just NEVER EVER get over this. That picture should be shoved in the Mayor and Gov's face over and over and over again.


25 posted on 09/05/2005 5:56:53 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: willieroe

Nagin was criminally negligent.


26 posted on 09/05/2005 5:58:11 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: willieroe
An RTA emergency plan dedicates 64 buses and 10 lift vans to move people somewhere; whether that means out of town or to local shelters of last resort would depend on emergency planners' decision at that moment, RTA spokeswoman Rosalind Cook said

TEXAS sent 500 buses how many times?

27 posted on 09/05/2005 5:59:35 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Freeper amom will be reporting live from BRLA)
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To: willieroe

From the start of the rooftop evacuations, I've noticed something peculiar. Healthy, muscular black guys have been plucked off the roofs of what appear to be rather substantial houses. I've been up on the roof of my own house for repairs numerous times and I know how big it is. These houses are two or three times as large. They have solid looking roofs with newish shingles. How is that people in such circumstances lack transportation or the means to leave the city? These aren't shanties and their owners certainly weren't destitute.

It appears to me that Coast Guard and Army guys are risking their lives to rescue lots of fools who had plenty of opportunity to leave New Orleans and refused to do so. And taxpayers are footing the bill. Infirm elderly, poor people with no means to leave--by all means we should do everything to help these hapless victims. Perfectly healthy idiots who refused to leave are a disgrace.


28 posted on 09/05/2005 6:01:05 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: willieroe
We better get thse DVDs out telling folk they are on their own. Yeah, thats a good plan


29 posted on 09/05/2005 6:01:18 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: ckilmer

Also, the city could have made one lane of the highway expressly for buses during the pre-storm evacuation. (In addition to making all lanes outgoing ones.)


30 posted on 09/05/2005 6:01:24 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: ckilmer

31 posted on 09/05/2005 6:02:25 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: finnman69
Nagin was criminally negligent.

He warned the people a month before the storm hit that they were on their own and had to be responsible for themselves. What is Criminal about that?

32 posted on 09/05/2005 6:03:14 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: willieroe

Bombshell


33 posted on 09/05/2005 6:04:21 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: goldstategop

"I keep hearing Democrats insist on the need for "a plan." There sure wasn't one in New Orleans. I must have missed the news. "

Forget about an exit strategy for iraq - what happened for the 'exit strategy' for new orleans?

Wait, that was the responsibility of liberals, so it can't be mentioned.


34 posted on 09/05/2005 6:17:31 PM PDT by flashbunny (Defending the free market on free republic is like having to defend the flag at a VFW convention.)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

They have really screwed the pooch on this one. None too soon either. Liberalism is a virulent cancer upon our society.


35 posted on 09/05/2005 6:19:40 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: willieroe
"But we don't have the transportation."

What about all those school buses now under water...?

Frankly, if the evacuation and relocation of the poor out of the hellhole environment we were hearing NO was (before the storm), into a situation where they can (and do) help themselves up into the mainstream... this will be a good thing.

36 posted on 09/05/2005 6:20:28 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azadi)
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To: willieroe
This is Fuuuuuuny. A DVD ? My 10 year old nephew knows how to burd a DVD.

How cute.

37 posted on 09/05/2005 6:20:37 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: willieroe
Attn: LA FREEPERS ! WE NEED THIS DVD !

The world needs to see, on film, the "you're on your own" on film !

38 posted on 09/05/2005 6:24:35 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: WestSylvanian
re:Perfectly healthy idiots who refused to leave are a disgrace.

Here's the process:

Reality: Cat 5 in the gulf ?
Reaction: I'll stay

Reality: Cat 4 on my house ?
Reaction: I'll stay

Reality: Leeve topped?
Reaction: I'll stay

Reality: Fresh water gone?
Reaction: I'll stay

Reality: Food gone?
Reaction: I'll stay

MSM films him saying "Where's the help" ? ? ?

39 posted on 09/05/2005 6:28:30 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: IronMan04

Actually, he barely told the city to evacuate as it was with minimal notice and he never did bother to get the message out the people are on their own.

And isnt it negligent to leave the population on their own?


40 posted on 09/05/2005 7:01:58 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: GW and Twins Pawpaw

Does anyone know how much federal money was given to N.O. over the last 3-4 years to prepare for catastrophic events. Most cities have received something. It will be interesting to see where the money went.


41 posted on 09/05/2005 7:09:03 PM PDT by PhreakingPsyco
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To: willieroe

Is this sick mumor? Or even worse, the truth?


42 posted on 09/05/2005 7:16:23 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: PhreakingPsyco

Since it is public works one would think it would be available.


43 posted on 09/05/2005 7:31:47 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: coconutt2000

AS I understand it (which is a bit hard from the story) they never got them, they were still in production at the time and were to be distributed in August, 05. With the inept state & local LA and NO government, we all know how that gig most likely went.


44 posted on 09/05/2005 7:40:31 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Bump


45 posted on 09/05/2005 7:43:06 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: willieroe

This needs mega bumping big time and emailing to all in one's email addy folder.


46 posted on 09/05/2005 7:44:05 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: WestSylvanian

Yeah me too, and I have noted a lot of drowned vehicles parked on the streets these low income neighborhoods.


47 posted on 09/05/2005 7:46:52 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: finnman69

On Saturday morning he was on TV and radio telling people to leave town.


48 posted on 09/05/2005 7:52:34 PM PDT by IronMan04
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis; IronMan04

Thanks, Ursus.

Ironman, why are you sticking up for this guy? Do you work with him? List some things that Nagin did to plan/orchestrate the evacuation.

The libs are trying to hang the administration out to dry for this when the local/state officials did nothing. We're just making sure the record has a chance to be set straight before the MSM distorts it, as usual.

And here is the link, again, where Nagin/Blanco didn't order the evacuation till Sunday, NOT Saturday.

http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisiana/index.ssf?/base/news-18/1125239940201382.xml&storylist=louisiana


49 posted on 09/05/2005 7:53:26 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: VeniVidiVici
I was there and the mayor was on TV on Saturday calling for an Evacuation.

His evacuation request on Saturday may have something to do with all Interstate lanes going outbound on Saturday afternoon.

From the Article you posted:

She said Interstate 10, which was converted Saturday so that all lanes headed one-way out of town, was total gridlock.

Why would they convert all lanes to Contraflow if an evacuation was not called?
50 posted on 09/05/2005 7:58:17 PM PDT by IronMan04
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