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The Big Easy rocked, but didn't roll [Steyn Alert]
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9/6/05 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 09/05/2005 5:14:07 PM PDT by saquin

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To: Eagles6
These people were the ones who were in no way self sufficient, waiting for someone to take care of them and when it didn't happen immediately and to their liking they didn't know what to do. The rest were the predators.<

The predators, of course, were self-sufficient, didn't wait for someone to take care of them, and knew exactly what to do. That their application of these principles was anti-social, illegal and despicable is another story.

I think it's far too facile to claim that the problem is that the welfare state stifles individualism. It's true as far as it goes, and I believe that was the original point of public schooling according to Dewey et al.: the docile citizen.

The problem is that the welfare state doesn't succeed in stifling individualism; it just ends up forcing it into devious channels. Many people on welfare (corporate as well as individual) and many people not on welfare officially (I count politicians here) are extremely resourceful and energetic in gaming the system.

Regarding the even more anti-social and violent results, R. Emmett Tyrrell had a nice piece in his book Public Nuisances years ago. I no longer have my copy, so this is from memory and incomplete. He explains -- half in jest, whole in earnest -- the advantages of a life of crime: you make your own hours, no training requirements, no government certification or registration, no taxes or regulation . . . Well, you can make your own list.

141 posted on 09/06/2005 2:16:37 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

If I were on the jury I'd sentence him to go to jail for one minute.


142 posted on 09/06/2005 2:24:11 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: saquin; kstewskis; Victoria Delsoul; Kelly_2000; kayak; lysie; kassie; Peach; Carolinamom

Great article!


143 posted on 09/06/2005 3:57:15 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Northern Yankee

I would venture to guess that the looting women cops were hired to fill an Affirmative Action quota, and not for any talent or ability they might have had to be police officers. When the opportunity came, they reverted to what they were before they got the job.

Catastrophe brings out of you what was in you to begin with; like a jar full of unseen contents, when catastrophe turns you over the world finds out what was in you all along.

If those cops are your mothers, I hope you have been transported to a stable home in another state where you can learn that this behaviour is not only illegal, it is abnormal. The knowledge could save your life.


144 posted on 09/06/2005 4:34:13 AM PDT by KateatRFM
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To: saquin
New Orleans is a party town in the middle of a welfare swamp and, like many parties, it doesn't look so good when someone puts the lights up

bttt. Once again, very well said.

145 posted on 09/06/2005 5:26:31 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: KateatRFM

It's just beyond me that you wouldn't want to help out in a situation like that, rather than contribute to the problem.


146 posted on 09/06/2005 5:30:11 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: Judith Anne
"I wonder if Mark Steyn has a group of his columns published in a book? "

- Steyn has written a number of books ranging from showbiz topics (a passion of his) to politics. For a precis of these publications, go to his website, www.marksteyn.com, under "books".
147 posted on 09/06/2005 5:39:45 AM PDT by finnigan2
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To: Pokey78

Great as always. Thanks.


148 posted on 09/06/2005 5:40:52 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: BenLurkin

Someone needs to recruit that boy. He'd make a hell of a contribution to our military and teach some people a thing or two!!


149 posted on 09/06/2005 5:50:20 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: saquin

Plenty of folks did something. A co-worker is playing host to fifty of his closest relatives who left the New Orleans area well ahead of the storm. Right now they have apartments and are getting jobs. We're kickin' in for them, giving them the stuff they couldn't bring away with 'em, like bedding, cookware, etc.

There may be a 'culture of passivity" among some folks from New Orleans, but not these people. The problem with New Orleans is that good folks are mostly gone and making headway elsewhere. The bad news is that a lot of 'em won't be comin' back.


150 posted on 09/06/2005 5:53:24 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: BenLurkin
He stayed a lot cooler and acted way more decisively than Gov. Blanco.
151 posted on 09/06/2005 6:10:22 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Congratulations to The Framers of The Iraqi Constitution!!)
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To: Alien Gunfighter

</i>Funny how NOLA is making noises about going after a kid that rescued a lot of people by commandeering a bus, yet consider looters to be 'victims'.</i>
needs to be repeated.


152 posted on 09/06/2005 6:31:29 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Northern Yankee

Thanks! Another great one by Steyn!


153 posted on 09/06/2005 7:01:16 AM PDT by kayak (Have you prayed for your President and our military today?)
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To: saquin

BTTT


154 posted on 09/06/2005 7:46:37 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: BenLurkin

Indict Jabbor Gibson?
They oughta give the young man a friggin' medal!
He showed more courage than the mayor & governor combined!!!


155 posted on 09/06/2005 7:54:48 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Northern Yankee

Steyn....a man after my own heart who says what it is!


156 posted on 09/06/2005 8:10:38 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: Joe Brower

Govt dependency turns people into slaves.
Slaves always depend on Massa to do everything, including save their lives.


157 posted on 09/06/2005 8:13:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: saquin; Pokey78
To give the city credit, it has a lovely "Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan" for hurricanes. The only flaw in the plan is that the person charged with putting it into effect is the mayor. And he didn't.

Tragic. How many lives were lost due to the Mayor's incompetence? He sure is good at blaming others though. Listening to him talk one would think he was just a bystander who volunteered to help!

158 posted on 09/06/2005 8:19:44 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: saquin
"I'd had it up to here," he wrote, "with the passivity, the whining, and the when-are-they-going-to-do-something blame game."

Me too!!!!!

159 posted on 09/06/2005 8:20:32 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for the ping.

New Orleans is a party town in the middle of a welfare swamp and, like many parties, it doesn't look so good when someone puts the lights up.

Steyn is right on as usual.

160 posted on 09/06/2005 8:26:16 AM PDT by Lurking in Kansas (Nothing witty hereā€¦ move on.)
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