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Posted on 09/05/2005 6:14:23 PM PDT by gobucks
With most of the nation distracted by the destruction of Hurricane Katrina and the first Supreme Court confirmation hearings in nearly a decade, the Senate may quietly approve a bill to recognize native Hawaiians as a new Indian tribe and establish a separate governing authority for people of their race within Hawaii.
“This is the worst bill you’ve never heard of,” said John Fund, political analyst for the Wall Street Journal, speaking at the Heritage Foundation August 30.
The bill would create an open-ended negotiation process between a proposed native-Hawaiian governing entity and the federal and state governments. The process could ultimately give this entity the powers of taxation and law enforcement, hundreds of thousands of acres of Hawaiian land and the right to discriminate based on race. Members of the tribe would be enrolled based on race, and the tribe’s governing entity could become immune from civil rights laws, much like American Indian tribal authorities, which are permitted to establish state religions and discriminate based on race and sex.
Among other things, the bill would allow the Kamehameha Schools—public schools that discriminate in their admissions in favor of racial Native Hawaiians—to continue discriminating, despite an August 2 ruling against the practice by the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.
The bill’s chief sponsor, Sen. Daniel Akaka (D.-Hawaii) even said in an NPR interview that his bill may lead to Hawaiian independence, although he later clarified he does not personally support independence. The state of Hawaii’s Office of Hawaiian Affairs (OHA) talks about secession as a possibility on its website, promoting as options “total independence” or “nationhood with marginal connections to the legal and territorial limits of the United States.”
In promoting the Akaka bill, OHA has spent $780,000 in taxpayer dollars hiring top Washington lobbyists. Benjamin Ginsberg, a former Bush-Cheney 2004 lawyer, is lobbying Senate Republicans and the White House for OHA.
Congressional Action
The Akaka bill may pass the Senate, Senate sources tell HUMAN EVENTS. It has more than the 50 votes needed to pass, and it may even have the 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. It has five Republican co-sponsors, including both Alaska senators, Sen. Norm Coleman (R.-Minn.), Sen. Gordon Smith (R.-Ore.) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R.-S.C.).
The support of Alaskan Senators Ted Stevens (R.) and Lisa Murkowski (R.) is part of a deal whereby Hawaii’s senators vote together with Alaska’s on matters pertaining to the two states—including ANWR drilling, for example. Senators Graham and Smith did not return calls requesting comment on why they are co-sponsoring the bill. A Senate aide told HUMAN EVENTS Coleman signed on in response to a personal appeal from moderate Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle (R.).
Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.), who in 1993 voted against a non-binding resolution apologizing for the 1893 overthrow of the Hawaiian monarchy, helped Akaka move the bill through the Indian Affairs Committee in March.
On Tuesday, the Senate will take a cloture vote on whether to allow debate on the measure. Opponents, led by Sen. Jon Kyl (R.-Ariz.), plan to propose three hostile floor amendments that could gut the bill, a Republican Senate staffer said. One would bar the Native Hawaiian governing entity from discriminating based on race, while a second would prevent racial discrimination in enrolling members of the Hawaiian “tribe.” Both of these amendments will receive votes no matter what.
For parliamentary reasons, a third amendment, requiring a statewide referendum on the bill in Hawaii, will not receive a floor vote if cloture is invoked on the final bill. A July survey of 41,000 Hawaiians found that more than two-thirds oppose the bill. Among racial Native Hawaiians, who comprise just above 20% of the state’s population, support is at about 50%.
A Senate source also said that opponents may try to send the bill back to the Judiciary Committee, where it could languish indefinitely or even die.
And I wonder something else: given Hawaii is a Democratic Stronghold, would we really miss it? (Course the flag would look weird...) And the Senate would INSTANTLY lose two Democratic Senators... hmmmmm.
Well combine Manitoba, Saskechiwan and Yukon into one state and then you have 50 again :)
and more oil too
Maybe the SC Senator is assuming the red states leave next?
Well this is interesting. The South can't leave the union but it looks like Hawaii might be able to? Ridiculous!
Please, let's not forget the TEXAS of Canada, Alberta! Those folks we would LOVE to add...
Delay will kill this.
The South didn't have Republican lobbyists.
I don't think they could live on tourists alone.
They would have to keep their lips to the government nipple somehow. Maybe charge sky high prices to rent land to the military.
Oh, to heck with 'em. Let China have 'em.
F 'em. I'm tired of hearing from them.
No, outright secession would be too confrontational and noncorforming to the incrementalist play book...but time will tell.
Agreed ... They are a friggin' state! They need to abide by the laws of the land and quit their whining ...
Typical Democrat babblin'
crap I KNEW I was forgetting one!!
LOL
that would be a HUGE state. Maybe we should make them 2 states and go with 51.
What in heaven's name are these Republicans supporting this bill for?
2 states? Yeah, I like that ... and I'm betting the 4 Senators will be more than happy to provide input about the Judicial nonsense that's going on here. The Albertans can't stand the liberal whackos in the east who run the show and make Christian preaching of the N.T. a jailable offense...
Free trips to Hawaii? All the leis they want?
Alaska is next. Drop out of the US and drill in ANWAR. Sell us the oil and be the most northern member of OPEC.
neither can any of the others.
Then BC becomes it's own country and Ontario it's own as well along with Quebec.
am I missing any? probably.
Gambling c'mon to Hawaii,Blackjack anyone?
"What in heaven's name are these Republicans supporting this bill for?"
I don't have the first clue, which is one of the reasons I posted the article. Hopefully someone has some insight on it. I wonder, given Lindsey's flakiness lately, if dirty laundry boys on the democratic left have got something bad on him and he is being leveraged ... who knows? You'd think the LAST thing democrats would want is to jepordize two Demo seats, but given they are tribalist fanatics for the most part anyway, I guess they are willing to risk it.
I still think its all about the casino.... Follow the money.
Will Hawaii have it's own military if that happens?
"Alaska is next. Drop out of the US and drill in ANWAR. Sell us the oil and be the most northern member of OPEC."
What a novel idea. Btw, how many indian tribes are in Alaska?
Hawaii is not going to become a Nation. Looks me to like they are going to treat them like the American Indians with their separate Government. Never could figure out why the Indians have a separate Government and don't have to follow all the rules of the State, consider themselves sovereign but get to vote in our elections.
Coconut Canons are very effective I hear....
Claiming "Native Hawaiian" status is like claiming "Native American" status - they are all immagrants: Native Americans from Asia; Native Hawaiians from Polynesia. There are no indigenous peoples in the western hemisphere! This is PC bogus!
"A July survey of 41,000 Hawaiians found that more than two-thirds oppose the bill. Among racial Native Hawaiians, who comprise just above 20% of the state’s population, support is at about 50%."
Not exactly a grass-roots movement.
A very well written article. It actually made the parlimentary stuff interesting! Great post!
Give Hawaii back to Russia! We shouldn't have bought it from France in the first place!
"China will turn Akaka's island nation into caca-land."
Senator CaCa and his Democratic cohorts have already made significant progress towards getting that hapless bunch of "natives" into "deep CaCa".
Does no one remember that the natives were killing each other and often eating them as well?
If eating ones enemies is coming back, the Liberals are in deep caca since they have lots of enemies and they are anti-gun.
Dinner on the hoof. ;-)
I think that's called SEDITION....???
LOL!!!
"You'd think the LAST thing democrats would want is to jepordize two Demo seats, but given they are tribalist fanatics for the most part anyway, I guess they are willing to risk it."
But maybe any cynical pol today just says: hawaiian independeance if far off, if it ever comes, let me do what is expedient today to get get/keep power.
It does bother me that it seems to be a bad idea from the anti-american left, rather than a heartfelt desire of the people, and yet it's still gotten so far. Since Hawaii is another vacation land supreme, (like NOLA), who pays attention to the pols? Not like in some small town (where you actually know the pols, personally), nor some old Northeast BIG CITY (were the corrpt pols rule all, such as NY, Beantown, Chitown, Philly, etc, etc). The whole excercise seems unecessary, except, of course, as a racialist thing, emphasis on re-segregation. Whatever, as 'cultural truth', or whatever.
You see, this is all leftist, anti-individualist, pro-tribalist (as you rightly say) crap.
And I hate this stuff.
And, there is only going to be more of it.
Katrina's coverage is a harbinger of that.
Well, if they're only going to be half a state, they ought to have only half their current congressional delegation. Let their two senators arm wrestle to see which one gets to stay on.
I had a feeling at the time, we
shouldn't have bought the place
and made it a State.
If those pinheads in Hawaii want their own little third world kingdom, so be it. Hawaii’s statehood should be revoked and U.S. TAXPAYER dollars should no longer be sent there. I'm getting tired of the RINOS like and their DemocRAT butt buddies going around and creating all these little dysfunctional "sovereign nations" while demanding that the U.S. taxpayers subsidize them. That’s BS.
"Coconut Canons are very effective I hear...."
lol
I see it turning into another Puerto Rico. They become independent, and we still support them. They want to be independent, but not that independent!
It has five Republican co-sponsors, including both Alaska senators, Sen. Norm Coleman (R.-Minn.), Sen. Gordon Smith (R.-Ore.) and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R.-S.C.).
Prayers for testicular, colon, and brain cancer sent. They are willing to sell the country down the river for politics. Yet some will try and justify and praise this treachery as "strategery".
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Won't happen.
Ah...the lobbyists again! Well, they did break up the USSR into smaller states to try and control. The United States, as a democracy, should be a piece of cake to destroy as a whole.
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