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25 Dems could vote for Roberts
The Hill ^ | September 6, 2005 | Elana Schor

Posted on 09/05/2005 7:23:54 PM PDT by Mount Athos

Members of the Senate Democrats’ K Street inner circle are predicting that as many as 25 Democrats will vote to confirm John Roberts as chief justice of the United States.

Several attendees of the Monday Group, as Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-Nev.) biweekly lobbyist meetings are known, said the Democrats could suffer politically if their Roberts strategy misfires. Left-wing ideological groups are pressuring Democratic lawmakers to expose Roberts’s conservative record without workable grounds for a fight, Monday Group lobbyists said.

“It’s not a good thing for Democrats to be dragged into a visible, high-profile battle on him for weeks when Congress ought to be dealing with issues the public really cares about,” one key Democratic lobbyist said. “That’s the biggest danger for Democrats, if they get sucked into something like that because of the ideological left.”

Though some Democrats already have called for Congress to focus on aiding the blighted Gulf Coast as the new session begins, planning for the Roberts hearings likely will dominate the Monday Group’s next meeting, on Sept. 12. Informal discussions among some lobbyists and Democratic aides during the recess were said to yield little in the way of cohesive counsel.

“There is no real coordinated effort to enlist K Street in getting involved,” said another well-connected Democrat, one of many who hailed Roberts as an unassailably shrewd selection. “There’s no sense in creating a big dustup now downtown, when what are you going to fight about?”

Democratic lobbyists’ greatest concern about Roberts is not pinning down his positions on federal preemption or civil rights, despite the recent Monday Group guest appearance of Wade Henderson, president of the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights. Many K Street Democrats instead questioned what they characterized as poorly coordinated messaging from liberal groups that has unduly influenced some lawmakers.

“The other dirty little secret the Democrats have to deal with is … there may be some in party who see it as, ‘It would be worthwhile to drag it out a little bit so we can raise some money off the deal’” from left-wing special interests, a Monday Group member said. “That’s shortsighted, and politically dangerous too.”

In particular, Democratic lobbyists singled out the NARAL Pro-Choice Alliance decision to endorse Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.), who is certain to face a tough reelection fight next year, in a potential bid to sway him on Roberts. If Chafee spurns the pro-abortion-rights group by voting to confirm, his Democratic challenger could be weakened, and Monday Group lobbyists said a Republican voting against Roberts would be highly unlikely.

“I’d advise my clients to stay out of this one,” said another lobbyist with ties to Democratic leadership. “Why would they use up political capital on something they can’t possibly win on or benefit from? … I don’t see a good opening for us.”

One Monday Group regular likened the Roberts confirmation to this spring’s tension over the “nuclear option,” saying that in both cases a swift resolution and moving on to other business would be the best-case scenario.

K Street Democrats agreed that Roberts ultimately would be confirmed with anywhere from 65 to 80 votes, with most centrist and Southern Democrats voting to approve the nomination. Every Democrat who signed the “Gang of 14” agreement to preserve the minority’s right of judicial filibuster will vote for Roberts, they predicted, with several openly forecasting that Reid himself will support the nominee.

Some lobbyists credited Reid with ensuring that no Democrat has declared support for Roberts yet, a stance often phrased by the minority leader as “keeping [our] powder dry.”

One lobbyist said, “The only concerted strategy I’ve seen come out of the caucus has been: Don’t make any commitments to support him. Leadership’s been very successful in keeping everybody on that page.”

But, K Street Democrats said, as soon as the hearings begin, either Thursday or Monday, expect Democratic senators such as Ben Nelson (Neb.), Mary Landrieu (La.) or Blanche Lincoln (Ark.) to reveal quickly their votes in Roberts’s favor.

Reid spokesman Jim Manley said that Monday Group lobbyists would be consulted as the hearings progress but that they would not be relied upon for messaging. “We talk to them all the time. Are we planning on using them? No,” Manley said. “It’s up to the members of the Judiciary Committee to carefully review Roberts’s qualifications for the job.”

Asked whether a majority of the Democratic caucus voting for Roberts would concern Reid, Manley declined to comment. “Let’s just wait and see,” he said.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 109th; confirmationhearing; johnroberts; obstructionistrats; rats; scotus; senaterats
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"there may be some in party who see it as, ‘It would be worthwhile to drag it out a little bit so we can raise some money off the deal’"
1 posted on 09/05/2005 7:23:55 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

75 votes is filibuster proof!


2 posted on 09/05/2005 7:27:09 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Mount Athos

It's all so silly.

We voted Bush in...therefore, we voted for Bush's choice.


3 posted on 09/05/2005 7:28:38 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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To: Mount Athos

This one will sail through with the usual garbage spewing from kennedy and his ilk. The next one may be a little tougher though.


4 posted on 09/05/2005 7:28:40 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Mount Athos; William Creel; Salvation; dubyaismypresident; democratstomper; Sub-Driver; ...

This is excellent news, though not surprising.


5 posted on 09/05/2005 7:29:01 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: Mount Athos

Now that the hearings have been delayed a bit, does anyone know when they are supposed to begin?


6 posted on 09/05/2005 7:29:19 PM PDT by Pirogue Captain
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To: Pirogue Captain

Thursday, Friday, or Monday at latest.


7 posted on 09/05/2005 7:30:34 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos
Waiting for the idiots who will claim this means Roberts is really another Souter.

In reality it means the Democrats know that trying to Bork Roberts isn't in their best interest especially since it won't change the makeup of the Court.

8 posted on 09/05/2005 7:31:27 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John Conyers, and David Duke Are Just Different Sides of the Same Coin.)
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To: Mount Athos
"Mary Landrieu (La.)"

She can vote if she isn't jailed for threatening the president with physical violence.

9 posted on 09/05/2005 7:32:46 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Graybeard58; wagglebee; definitelynotaliberal; Petronski; THX 1138

You're right about Roberts. Probably right about the second one, though if Bush plays his cards right (Edith Clement of Louisiana), he won't have much trouble with that confirmation hearing.


10 posted on 09/05/2005 7:35:27 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Jeanine Pirro for Senate, Hillary Clinton for Weight Watchers Spokeswoman)
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To: Mount Athos

"Thursday, Friday, or Monday at latest."



Cool! Thanks...


11 posted on 09/05/2005 7:37:36 PM PDT by Pirogue Captain
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To: Clintonfatigued
I wanted to see Scalia as Chief but I don't always get what I want.

With that said, I am wondering here in almost complete ignorance. What duties and responsibilities does the Chief have that the other Justices don't?

12 posted on 09/05/2005 7:39:02 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Wolfgang_Blitzkrieg











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14 posted on 09/05/2005 8:01:12 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Mount Athos
Left-wing ideological groups are pressuring Democratic lawmakers to expose Roberts’s conservative record

I would be happy if some Republican lawmakers could expose (or find) Robert's conservative record.

15 posted on 09/05/2005 8:03:06 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (We need a strict constructionist - not someone who plays shadow puppet theatre with the Constitution)
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To: Graybeard58

IF the chief justice is on the majority vote side, he can either write the opinion himself or decide who gets to write it. There was one long service chief who frequently switched sides when he was losing just so he could write the opinion himself.

The chief also sets the weekly agenda at meetings that decide which cases are to be heard. It doesn't sound like much but in practice it can really influence the direction of the court. He has considerable influence over which cases are heard, but technically each justice has equal vote in it.

The Chief justice presides over impeachments and swears in the president.


16 posted on 09/05/2005 8:18:30 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Thanks for the info. I have learned that it is more than ceremonial.


17 posted on 09/05/2005 8:20:37 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Mount Athos

Have you seen the new commercial about Judge Ginsberg? It's great!


18 posted on 09/05/2005 8:22:13 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: bethtopaz

No I haven't heard about it, what is it like?


19 posted on 09/05/2005 8:25:24 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Clintonfatigued
It's not really excellent news. That an accomplished jurist like Roberts will receive some 23 "NO" votes while the vile pretender Ruth Buzzi received 3 "NO" votes is an outrage. Republicans practice collegiality while democrats preach it.

When the day again arrives when a democrat selects a SC justice, the Republicans will honor the president's choice and fall into line without complaint. No spunk, no fire, no fight.

20 posted on 09/05/2005 8:37:33 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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