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'John Wayne dude' general blasts Katrina complaints as 'B.S.
AFP/Yahoo ^ | Sep 5, 2005

Posted on 09/05/2005 8:48:54 PM PDT by veronica

Lieutenant General Russel Honore lived up to his 'John Wayne dude' nickname, blasting complaints that red tape or poor security were snarling relief efforts as "B.S."

The fiery general, in charge of the military component of the mission, lost his rag during a press conference after President George W. Bush's visit to rescue coordinators here.

"That's B.S. It's B.S.," Honore raged.

"I can tell you that is B.S. We have got 300 helicopters and some of the finest EMS workers in the world down there.

"There is no red tape ... there are isolated incidents that people take to paint a broad brush."

Honore also lashed out at questions from journalists at the Baton Rouge emergency operations center concerning the security situation in New Orleans.

"You need to get on the streets of New Orleans, you can't sit back here and say what you hear from someone else.

"It is secure, we walk around without any issues. Why the hell are you trying to make that the issue, if you can help, get there and help," he said, saying that people were being scared away by reports of violence.

When one reporter argued that there still reports of bureaucracy and unrest stalling relief efforts in some outlying parishes of New Orleans, Honore fumed: "I don't care if it is Hancock County, Mississippi -- we are not going to have that kind of issue."

The comments that sparked Honore's verbal blast were apparently made by US Representative Bobby Jindal, who represents a New Orleans district.

"The bureaucracy needs to do more than one thing at a time. It's appropriate to save people with helicopters, but it can't be done to the exclusion of everything else," Jindal was quoted by Time magazine as saying.

Honore did not discount that Jindal may be basing his complaints on "isolated" incidents, and said he would follow up with him.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin dubbed Honore 'one John Wayne dude' in admiration for his efforts when he showed up in the city last week.

"He came off the doggone chopper, and he started cussing and people started moving," Nagin said in a radio interview on Thursday.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: honore; katrina; katrinafailures
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1 posted on 09/05/2005 8:48:54 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica

Jindal must be drinking some of the same "funny stuff" that Nagin has been drinking.


2 posted on 09/05/2005 8:52:50 PM PDT by syriacus (The young folks were IMPRESSED by their rescuers. Look for an increased military + guard enlistment)
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To: veronica

Evertbody knows the reporting about Katrina has been BS except for the xxx-sucking US media.


3 posted on 09/05/2005 8:53:09 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Hate yourself? Hate everybody else, too? You'll be at home with the Democrats!)
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To: syriacus
He is trying to make sure that he covers all of his bases, however, the only people who are going to remember Jindal's idiotic statements come election time are people who write checks to his campaign. I guess I will give that check I would have written to him to one of the Mississippi Republicans who don't blame anyone for their problems.
4 posted on 09/05/2005 8:56:59 PM PDT by Sthitch
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To: syriacus
Brit Humme was right that LA politicos from both parties at every level are reading off the same page. The reason is simple, LA doesn't have politicians it has Mafia Dons and they all have something on each other. I think before this is over, the LA rock is about to be turned over and reveal to the country the slime it hides.
5 posted on 09/05/2005 8:57:52 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Sthitch

Jindal can kiss any National-level political ambitions, good-bye.


6 posted on 09/05/2005 9:00:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Texasforever

All LA politicians are blaiming the fed Gov't. Jindal looked like an idiot on Brit Hume's show when he said everyone shared the blame, yet proceeded to only fault FEMA.


7 posted on 09/05/2005 9:00:22 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Texasforever

LA - 45% underwater, 45% under indictment. Quoting Steyn, who was quoting someone else.


8 posted on 09/05/2005 9:00:38 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: veronica

"Get off your @ss Pilgrim!"

9 posted on 09/05/2005 9:01:04 PM PDT by Bommer
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To: veronica
It's appropriate to save people with helicopters, but it can't be done to the exclusion of everything else," Jindal was quoted

And on the list of 1-10, which number should be saving lives?

10 posted on 09/05/2005 9:01:21 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world)
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To: Texasforever

Hopefully Louisiana politics is about to get an enema.


11 posted on 09/05/2005 9:01:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sine_nomine
In Texas the saying has always been,"there are only 2 types of politicians in LA. Those that have been indicted and those that will be indicted".
12 posted on 09/05/2005 9:02:00 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever

Did you see this video?


13 posted on 09/05/2005 9:03:13 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: veronica
"He came off the doggone chopper, and he started cussing and people started moving," Nagin said in a radio interview on Thursday.

Well, we know that Nagin likes the cussing, it is the only thing that he seems to have a modicum of talent for. But what I really believe is meant by his comment is a sense of jealousy. Deep down Nagin knows that if he had half of the testicular fortitude that Honre has, he would not have made such an ass out of himself.

14 posted on 09/05/2005 9:03:14 PM PDT by Sthitch
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To: Howlin

The press conference? Yes once the good general cut loose the press became very quiet. I think he may have shot the next one to make a smart-assed remark. This guy has his 4th star in the bag.


15 posted on 09/05/2005 9:05:39 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: Sthitch

Robert Duvall in " Apocolypse Now"


16 posted on 09/05/2005 9:08:22 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"And on the list of 1-10, which number should be saving lives?"

That would be item #4. Item #1 is to save the political class of Louisiana; item #2 is to insure that the flow of graft is not interrupted because of something small like a catastrophic natural disaster. At #3 is to set a photo-op for any Hollywood type who wants to come and make an ass out of himself Sean Penn . Then you come to #4 which is to save people.

17 posted on 09/05/2005 9:09:14 PM PDT by Sthitch
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To: Lijahsbubbe
"And on the list of 1-10, which number should be saving lives?"

That would be item #4. Item #1 is to save the political class of Louisiana; item #2 is to insure that the flow of graft is not interrupted because of something small like a catastrophic natural disaster. At #3 is to set a photo-op for any Hollywood type who wants to come and make an ass out of himself Sean Penn . Then you come to #4 which is to save people.

18 posted on 09/05/2005 9:09:43 PM PDT by Sthitch
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To: Texasforever

Somebody on the live thread said that they had known him before and he was TAME on TV.

Somebody else said it looked like he could have pulled out his pistol, shot the reporter, and said, "Take that, you Commie bastard!"


19 posted on 09/05/2005 9:10:41 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Texasforever
I think before this is over, the LA rock is about to be turned over and reveal to the country the slime it hides.

That is the ONLY reason that explains why every single one of them, D's and R's, were on TV blaming Bush before the winds died down. To a person, they all say the same thing, almost word for word.

And they ALL cry.

FGS, there is NO crying in hurricanes.

20 posted on 09/05/2005 9:12:56 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Howlin
All I know is another Rebublican will never get my money ever again and the next Cheney or Tom Delay letter is getting sent back with a pile of dog crap in it !

The GOP has been horrible every time I see any of them on TV.

21 posted on 09/05/2005 9:26:54 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: america-rules

I have a long list, too; and a LOT of them were added this past week.

Frankly, I cannot think of anybody who has stood up for Bush -- except -- much as I hate to say this -- Trent Lott.

Not one "conservative commentator."


22 posted on 09/05/2005 9:30:23 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Howlin
[...every single one of them, D's and R's, were on TV blaming Bush before the winds died down.]


That's because everybody knows this hurricane was just another plot by Bush, Cheney, and Rove to make their oil buddies rich. It couldn't be just a coincidence that Katrina hit the heart of our refining capacity on the week before Labor Day, thus allowing price gouging at the gas pumps.

NO MORE HURRICANES FOR OIL!

/s


But series-ly, there is an undesirable consequence to this bashing of the government by the disaster victims and their representatives: The people of America who usually open up their bank accounts to give to those in need are going to be more likely to snap their checkbooks shut and say "Screw those whiners."
23 posted on 09/05/2005 9:30:46 PM PDT by spinestein (Forget the Golden Rule. Remember the Bronze Rule.)
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To: veronica
started cussing

Nagin deems that a quality in himself he admires as well

24 posted on 09/05/2005 9:30:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (i forgot)
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To: spinestein

I agree 100 percent. And I'm directing mine to LA and MS.


25 posted on 09/05/2005 9:32:35 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: veronica

Thank God for people like Honore. Our Country would be dead without them.


26 posted on 09/05/2005 9:34:19 PM PDT by vpintheak (Liberal = The antithesis of Freedom and Patriotism)
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To: Howlin

[Frankly, I cannot think of anybody who has stood up for Bush -- except -- much as I hate to say this -- Trent Lott. Not one "conservative commentator."]



From the few hours of Limbaugh I listened to last week, it seemed he did a more than admirable job of sticking up for the Fed's response and he also reamed out the people who were attacking the government and who were wasting no time making a political issue out of the disaster.


27 posted on 09/05/2005 9:37:29 PM PDT by spinestein (Forget the Golden Rule. Remember the Bronze Rule.)
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To: Texasforever

The White House should really consider this guy for Press Secretary. He's got what it takes to handle the media these days! I've never heard a briefing like this where the person taking questions just simply said what needed to be said.


28 posted on 09/05/2005 9:38:46 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Texasforever

I can't begin to ponder the corruption should LA and NO pols get their hands on federal money. THAT will be a national disaster.


29 posted on 09/05/2005 9:39:17 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: veronica

Not a John Wayne Dude

30 posted on 09/05/2005 9:40:34 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (My tagline has been looted.)
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To: veronica

"The fiery general, in charge of the military component of the mission, lost his rag during a press conference..."

Where did THIS phrase come from?


31 posted on 09/05/2005 9:43:00 PM PDT by decal ("The Republic was not established by cowards, and cowards will not preserve it")
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

You mean Nagin isn't "genuinely heroic" like the BBC said?


32 posted on 09/05/2005 9:45:20 PM PDT by Sometimes A River ("The leaves have broken on Lake Ponktran" - WKAT 1360 AM Miami Newsreader)
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To: sine_nomine

"LA - 45% underwater, 45% under indictment. Quoting Steyn, who was quoting someone else."

I think that line has already been credited to Billy Tauzen, but I think it was half underwater, not 45% and half under indictment, not 45% under indictment.


33 posted on 09/05/2005 9:48:59 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: Howlin

"I agree 100 percent. And I'm directing mine to LA and MS."

If you mean *AL* and MS - then yes, me too. Screw the corrupt whiners in New Orleans. Never reinforce failure.


34 posted on 09/05/2005 9:49:18 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6

Yes........thanks for correcting me. It's late is my only pitiful excuse.


35 posted on 09/05/2005 9:56:39 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: veronica

Yes, Nagin, but when Honore cursed he got results because he knew how to back it up with action. All you backed up curses with was paranoia the CIA had a hit on you.


36 posted on 09/05/2005 9:58:12 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: veronica

I LIKE him. A LOT. Just loved his smack down!


37 posted on 09/05/2005 9:59:09 PM PDT by used2BDem (Navy Vet (Navy Mom))
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To: dfwgator

There's certainly no shortage of places to insert the nozzle.


38 posted on 09/05/2005 10:02:56 PM PDT by troublesome creek
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To: Howlin

Pols: (three Govs/one Senator)

Barbour
Riley
Perry
Lott

Commentators:

Rush - on top of it from the day it begun
Mark Levin
Sean Hannity
Tony Snow
Brit Hume
Fred Barnes
Moose (Brian Wilson)
Tammy Bruce
Ben Stein

These are the people I know off the top of my head. It is clearly possible the MSM could have hid others, so I leave that an option since they like only publishing negativity, but until shown to be the case I only give credit where due.


39 posted on 09/05/2005 10:03:17 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: GladesGuru

I was using the Steyn redaction!


40 posted on 09/05/2005 10:24:01 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: decal

I wondered that, too. It seems that one of the ways in which language changes is the gradual creep of slang/informal usages into what is considered to be correct. Another one that really jumps out at me is 'busted' to mean broken. This was definitely considered improper back in my school days...


41 posted on 09/05/2005 10:29:28 PM PDT by A. Goodwin
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To: Texasforever
OK, I saw this press conference live, and I had a very different read on it. The reporters were asking legitimate questions about the two chains of command in LA, because D Gov. Blanco had refused to federalize the relief effort, like Alabama and Miss. had (with R governors). That means the National Guard and the U.S. armed forces where under separate command in LA. Reports were coming in that this led to a lot of red tape and difficulty coordinating the relief effort. Director of Homeland Security came lame response that "everyone was in the same room and got along OK".

The general (who is not well spoken- uses a lot of dees and dats) went on a rant that was not dissimilar to the NO mayor. During his bluster he said the reports were B.S. He asked the source of the report and was told it from an area congressman. This was embarrassing to the general, not the reporter. He said he would have to apologize to the congressman later.

The follow up question had to do with violence in NO. The kind of stuff we've all been reading about for days on FR. He said there was no violence and everything was absolutely under control.

I don't buy it. This guy is all bluff and did not represent the armed forces well. He's covering up for the Democrat governor of LA and downplaying the armed thugs running around the city. He bluster is probably pretty effective in getting subordinates to hop to and for intimidating girl reporters, but if I was his commander I would question his veracity and ask some more pointed questions.
42 posted on 09/05/2005 10:32:47 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: A. Goodwin
Yeah. The infobabe on Fox couldn't bring herself to repeat his saying "B.S." when she attempted to quote him...
43 posted on 09/05/2005 10:33:36 PM PDT by null and void (Does my life *really* need a sarcasm tag????)
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To: america-rules

"The GOP has been horrible every time I see any of them on TV."

Perhaps Jindal, Vitter, and a few others need to get a 'few' email w a cc to Ken at the RNC. Newtie should get a few mail, too telling him that he can kiss any slim chance he had in '08 goodbye. He can't support our President in time of need, we can't support him.


44 posted on 09/05/2005 10:44:55 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: wardaddy

"started cussing
Nagin deems that a quality in himself he admires as well"

Nagin owes a lot of $$$s to the cussin' jar.
I'll forgive Honore his - -he can say That's B.S. to reporters all day long - -I'll put a quarter in my jar for him -- this guy doesn't suffer any fools - -he is GRRRRRRReat!


45 posted on 09/05/2005 10:51:23 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: SlowBoat407

LOL! I laughed even more when I saw the picture together with your alias - a "Slow Boat" it was!


46 posted on 09/05/2005 10:52:59 PM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: Seattle Conservative

Vitter was certainly a surprise.

I can see a Congressman like Jindal being a squeaky wheel to get some grease for his constituents as that's his job.

But Vitter? An "F" to the feds? Who pushed for the early evacuation? Who pushed for the early emergency declaration so FEMA could pre-position supplies, etc. before the storm?

One thing I'm going to be following now is this.

How much money did the feds send to the State of Louisiana to spend on emergency preparedness?

What did they do with the money?


47 posted on 09/05/2005 11:37:47 PM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: Howlin

Take that, you Commie bastard!

48 posted on 09/06/2005 12:34:06 AM PDT by devolve (------- http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/0access/LakeNagin.gif -- & LakeNagin.jpg ---)
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To: devolve

Has *anyone found a site offering the *whole* blistering
that Honore gave the Press Corps? Since it was originally
broadcast, all i've seen is sanitized clips that over up the fact that Honore tore the Press a "new one" and called them what they are: *Liars*, even if not using that word.

I'd love to DL it, or even just watch it agauin and again, on streaming Vid...:o)


49 posted on 09/06/2005 1:06:32 AM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: NickatNite2003


I have not seen that

I'd like to get some short audio
clips in .mp3 or .wav to link


50 posted on 09/06/2005 1:32:43 AM PDT by devolve (------- http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a156/0access/LakeNagin.gif -- & LakeNagin.jpg ---)
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