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'John Wayne dude' general blasts Katrina complaints as 'B.S.
AFP/Yahoo ^ | Sep 5, 2005

Posted on 09/05/2005 8:48:54 PM PDT by veronica

Lieutenant General Russel Honore lived up to his 'John Wayne dude' nickname, blasting complaints that red tape or poor security were snarling relief efforts as "B.S."

The fiery general, in charge of the military component of the mission, lost his rag during a press conference after President George W. Bush's visit to rescue coordinators here.

"That's B.S. It's B.S.," Honore raged.

"I can tell you that is B.S. We have got 300 helicopters and some of the finest EMS workers in the world down there.

"There is no red tape ... there are isolated incidents that people take to paint a broad brush."

Honore also lashed out at questions from journalists at the Baton Rouge emergency operations center concerning the security situation in New Orleans.

"You need to get on the streets of New Orleans, you can't sit back here and say what you hear from someone else.

"It is secure, we walk around without any issues. Why the hell are you trying to make that the issue, if you can help, get there and help," he said, saying that people were being scared away by reports of violence.

When one reporter argued that there still reports of bureaucracy and unrest stalling relief efforts in some outlying parishes of New Orleans, Honore fumed: "I don't care if it is Hancock County, Mississippi -- we are not going to have that kind of issue."

The comments that sparked Honore's verbal blast were apparently made by US Representative Bobby Jindal, who represents a New Orleans district.

"The bureaucracy needs to do more than one thing at a time. It's appropriate to save people with helicopters, but it can't be done to the exclusion of everything else," Jindal was quoted by Time magazine as saying.

Honore did not discount that Jindal may be basing his complaints on "isolated" incidents, and said he would follow up with him.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin dubbed Honore 'one John Wayne dude' in admiration for his efforts when he showed up in the city last week.

"He came off the doggone chopper, and he started cussing and people started moving," Nagin said in a radio interview on Thursday.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: honore; katrina; katrinafailures
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To: Howlin

Well, Lott was wrong about funding for the Army Corps NOLA levee project.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478445/posts


81 posted on 09/06/2005 9:51:06 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Howlin

I kind of liked the way Britt handled the situation last night.


82 posted on 09/06/2005 9:52:50 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Kryptonite

From the CNN transcript:

COOPER: In retrospect, was it a mistake for the federal government in the last couple years to cut the budget for the army corps of engineers in southeastern Louisiana for hurricane protection? Was it a mistake to cut some of the federal funding for flood control in that region?

LOTT: Yes, I do think that's been a mistake. People that don't live in flood areas of the country -- and lots of the country don't really fully understand good work the corps does and how badly we need it. Yes, I don't think it was a wise decision. I think we should put more into flood control problems.

But, you know, you've got papers like the "Washington Post" editorializing against what the corps does when they build levees and they build pumps. But yes, we ought to be putting more into it, and I vote that way every year.




[Quotes below are from Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, Commander of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, and Chief of Engineers, and are excerpted from his remarks during a U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Special Briefing for the media via conference call on Thursday, September 1, 2005 at 1 p.m. EDT. A full transcript is available from the Public Affairs Office at (202) 761-0011.]

There have been suggestions that inadequate funding for levee projects delayed their completion and resulted in the flooding of New Orleans.

GEN. STROCK: "In fact, the levee failures we saw were in areas of the projects that were at their full project design... So that part of the project was in place, and had this project been fully complete ... [West Bank, Southeast Louisiana, and Lake Ponchartrain] it's my opinion, based on the intensity of this storm, that the flooding of the Central Business District and the French Quarter would still have occurred. So I do not see that the level of funding is really a contributing factor in this case."

There have also been suggestions that the Corps of Engineers was unable to fully fund flood control needs in New Orleans or elsewhere because funding was diverted to the Global War on Terror.

GEN. STROCK: "Let me also address the issue of the general impact of the war in Iraq on civil works funding. We've seen some suggestions that our budget has been affected by the war. I can also say that I do not see that to be the case. If you look at the historical levels of funding for the Corps of Engineers from the pre-war levels back to 1992, '91, before we actually got into this, you'll see that the level of funding has been fairly stable throughout that period. So I think we would see that our funding levels would have dropped off if that were the case; so I do not see that as an issue that is relevant to the discussion of the flood protection of the City of New Orleans."

Finally, some believe that New Orleans flooded because there were inadequate coastal wetlands in Southern Louisiana to absorb the storm surge.

GEN. STROCK: "Again, my assessment in this case is that any loss of wetlands in the barrier islands associated with those processes did not have a significant impact on this event. I say this because the storm track took it east of the City of New Orleans, and most of those barrier islands and marshlands are located to the south and west of the city; so the storm did not track through that direction anyway, and I don't think that that was a contributing factor in the situation."



83 posted on 09/06/2005 9:55:24 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: EnquiringMind

Remind me.


84 posted on 09/06/2005 9:55:55 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Howlin

Britt held up a picture of the Mayor's pool of buses.


85 posted on 09/06/2005 11:31:59 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: nicmarlo

Did you happen to hear Rush today? I actually got to. He blasted those idiots out of the water. Then this one guy actually called in and accused him of spinning and said that he really believes that Bush wants black people dead. Just when I thought the DUmmies couldn't get any dummber. This pinhead was blaming the situation on Republicans. I loved Rush's response. He said, "what party has been in charge of the city of New Orleans for the past 50 (?) years?" The guy says, "democrats." Then Rush said, "and what party has been running the state of Louisiana for the past 5 decades?" The guy says, "democrats." Rush goes on to ask him him how, in a city run by democats in a state run by democrats, he could say it was the Republicans' fault. LOL! It was great. Needless to say, the guy didn't have an answer, so he spouted some NAACP talking points crap about how Bush wouldn't meet with black leaders.


86 posted on 09/06/2005 2:55:59 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: sweetliberty
He said, "what party has been in charge of the city of New Orleans for the past 50 (?) years?" The guy says, "democrats." Then Rush said, "and what party has been running the state of Louisiana for the past 5 decades?" The guy says, "democrats." Rush goes on to ask him him how, in a city run by democats in a state run by democrats, he could say it was the Republicans' fault. LOL! It was great. Needless to say, the guy didn't have an answer..

No, I didn't get to listen to him; I need to get a radio with a non-broken antenna at work so I can hear him.

Those are great questions asked by Rush....there would be no sane or truthful answer to that if one was intent on continuing to blame Bush/Republicans....yet, they try. thanks for the update.

87 posted on 09/06/2005 3:01:05 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: petitfour

I thought he said it was in Miss. but I am not sure.


88 posted on 09/06/2005 7:21:55 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: WKB

My point seems to have escaped you. I am not happy at all that he lost his home and everything that was in it. It is his superior attitude, his stinking, superior attitude, that galls me.


89 posted on 09/06/2005 7:31:13 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM

Trent did no honor to himself during the self-pitying interview he gave after talking on TV about his 150+ year old house that had "withstood everything" nature could throw at it, till Katrina ... it disgusted me.

"My point seems to have escaped you. I am not happy at all that he lost his home and everything that was in it. It is his superior attitude, his stinking, superior attitude, that galls me."


I guess I did miss that part


90 posted on 09/06/2005 7:35:53 PM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: veronica
It's appropriate to save people with helicopters, but it can't be done to the exclusion of everything else," Jindal was quoted by Time magazine as saying.

Uh, could that be because the ones doing the rescuing were federal troops and couldn't be used for law enforcement?

91 posted on 09/06/2005 7:43:22 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Global Dumbing far more serious threat than Global Warming)
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To: WKB

Well, bless your heart . . .

roflmbo


92 posted on 09/06/2005 7:47:12 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: WKB

I didn't elaborate on it in the original post -- the "self-pitying" part, but that was also where he was talking down to the little people, which seems to be where he lives, but he does have some success in glossing over it when he's giving practiced, slick speeches and can rely on the forms of correct political speech. When speaking to the camera about his house, it was straight Trent.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.


93 posted on 09/06/2005 7:48:01 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM; petitfour
I have been living in Mississippi almost
55 years and you know what?
I think you are way off base
and are just another Lott hater and looking for
something to bitch about.
94 posted on 09/06/2005 7:51:03 PM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: WKB

You speak a lot without knowledge and I am not going to get into a sparring match with you over this. You are wrong when you say I am a Lott hater. I am not. I can't stand a lot about him but I do not hate him.

I can discern a lot about a politician or any person when they have as much face time on TV as Trent does.

I don't like the man's oppressive persona. I don't like his racial stance. I think he is slimy. He has done some fine things, I am sure, meaning, he has cast some votes that have helped his state and the nation. But I personally do not like watching him speak. It's like the old saying, You don't want to eat bologna once you've seen it made.

The end.


95 posted on 09/06/2005 7:59:23 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM; WKB

You just go right ahead and keep discerning. I think you are way off base when it comes to Trent Lott. I know his voting record, and I'd take his record over that of almost every other sitting US senator.


96 posted on 09/06/2005 8:10:46 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: GretchenM

Read that post again
and tell me you are REAL sure
you are not a Lott hater.
If you are not a Lott hater
you would make a real good one.


97 posted on 09/06/2005 8:10:54 PM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: WKB
tell me you are REAL sure you are not a Lott hater. If you are not a Lott hater you would make a real good one.

I am "real sure."

You seem determined to pigeon-hole me in that category. You are wrong if you do.

I am a Christian, born again, as you state on your home page that you are. A person can strongly dislike, even hate, what someone does without hating him / her or wanting to be in the same room with him / her. That's how I am re Lott. I tell you before God and by the faith I have in Jesus Christ, I do not hate Trent Lott. If that isn't enough to convince you -- my testimony through the blood of the One who forgives me -- nothing will.

98 posted on 09/06/2005 9:19:17 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: petitfour

Please note I separated my opinion of his voting record from my opinion of him as a person.


99 posted on 09/06/2005 9:21:17 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM

Hate the sin\Love the sinner
Love the man \Hate his politics. :>)


100 posted on 09/07/2005 7:08:27 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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