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'John Wayne dude' general blasts Katrina complaints as 'B.S.
AFP/Yahoo ^ | Sep 5, 2005

Posted on 09/05/2005 8:48:54 PM PDT by veronica

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To: Texasforever
The press conference? Yes once the good general cut loose the press became very quiet. I think he may have shot the next one to make a smart-assed remark

What a nice image. Arrogant ignorant self important jerks think they are above any sort of "rules". Nice to see someone stomp them. I suspect you are going to see more of this. My toleration for their utter stupidity is gone. These jerks want to play "hardball" fine let's play hardball. Think a guy that has combat experience is going to play it a lot better then the moral cowards of the "news" media. He hit it just right. When a person gets trapped in one of these self feeding hysteric emotional feed back loops, as so many "reporter" are right now, the way to snap them out of it is to verbally hit back at them hard.

51 posted on 09/06/2005 2:31:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If it is all Bush's fault, why will Gov Blanco still not let the Feds take over?)
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To: Howlin
Frankly, I cannot think of anybody who has stood up for Bush -- except -- much as I hate to say this -- Trent Lott.

You must have missed Haley Barbour. He did well for himself and deflected attacks on Bush and the federal effort. I thought Lott's remarks and the focus on the destruction one of his three known homes was more harmful than helpful to the GOP PR effort.
52 posted on 09/06/2005 3:09:31 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: BigBobber
He was talking about the situation on the ground NOW, not four days ago. He specifically asked the reporter if she had been out on the streets. She said yes. He asked her if she had been accosted. No, she replied.

He also told the reporter who was questioning the slowness of communications restoration if they knew so much, get out there and help! Also with some cussing, which I thought was well-deserved.

He has a Cajun accent. I like it. I like the general, who is getting things done and has put the reporters in their place.

And I don't much care for Bobby Jindal, who has done nothing except whine about FEMA, and has never said one word of criticism against Blanco or Nagin.

Your opinion is off the mark. If you want to know other Freeper's takes, read the live thread, or the thread on General Honore in the General forum.

53 posted on 09/06/2005 3:19:27 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: BigBobber

You're thinking about the 1st half of the game. The general said in another interview that now it's halftime and he's only going to concentrate on the 2nd half of the game.


54 posted on 09/06/2005 3:28:36 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Run Hillary Run" bumper stickers. Liberals place on rear bumper, conservatives put on front bumper)
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To: Sthitch

Nagin is embarrassing on every level!


55 posted on 09/06/2005 3:28:42 AM PDT by mcg2000 (Mike Tyson: "It's hard to be a nigga in this world." Rita Cosby: "But you're a rich one?")
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To: veronica
Link to the video if not already posted.

Smash here

56 posted on 09/06/2005 3:30:38 AM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: BigBobber

I had the same general reaction on first seeing the back and forth as you did. It stood out to me that the reporters' jobs are not to go out and do the rescue and recovery, which he told them to do rather than ask questions about it (meaning: verbally sniping at those who are doing the work).

However, as Miss Marple said, he served a very useful function in that the press were more afraid of him than of Rumsfeld. That was worth a lot.


57 posted on 09/06/2005 3:38:05 AM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: George W. Bush

Trent did no honor to himself during the self-pitying interview he gave after talking on TV about his 150+ year old house that had "withstood everything" nature could throw at it, till Katrina ... it disgusted me.


58 posted on 09/06/2005 3:40:19 AM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: NickatNite2003; Howlin; Texasforever

Video link posted at #http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478209/posts?page=56#56 .


59 posted on 09/06/2005 3:41:10 AM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM
Me too. But he generally annoys me anyway so I'm hardly impartial. When it comes to GOP senators, I try to tell myself that that's their choice. Well, Trent isn't high on my hit list of most undesirable GOP senators. He's not currently a problem for passing conservative legislation on those rare occasions when we actually get any. And my own GOP senator makes people mad too.
60 posted on 09/06/2005 3:47:05 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Howlin
Frankly, I cannot think of anybody who has stood up for Bush -- except -- much as I hate to say this -- Trent Lott.

You're forgeting Gov. Barbour (MS)

61 posted on 09/06/2005 3:57:04 AM PDT by jslade ("If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.")
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To: patriciaruth
What did they do with the money?

"Invested" the money in casinos.

62 posted on 09/06/2005 4:01:01 AM PDT by jslade ("If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.")
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To: George W. Bush
conservative legislation

The only conservative legislation are bills that repeal liberal legistlation.

63 posted on 09/06/2005 4:12:52 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: GretchenM; WKB

I didn't know that Trent Lott had a 150-year-old house on the Gulf Coast. Or was he talking about Beauvoir?


64 posted on 09/06/2005 4:29:07 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: decal
"The fiery general, in charge of the military component of the mission, lost his rag during a press conference..."

Where did THIS phrase come from?

Apparently the word "rag" is an old British slang reference to the tongue, also called the "red rag". (No, don't go there). To "chew the rag" is to talk, and to "lose one's rag" is to lose control of one's tongue.

65 posted on 09/06/2005 4:38:37 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (My tagline has been looted.)
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To: sweetliberty; Borax Queen
The comments that sparked Honore's verbal blast were apparently made by US Representative Bobby Jindal, who represents a New Orleans district.

Yet another [fill in the blank] from LA.

66 posted on 09/06/2005 4:43:42 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Texasforever
Blame it on Edwin Edwards.... (sick humor)
67 posted on 09/06/2005 4:50:36 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: veronica

bttt


68 posted on 09/06/2005 4:50:58 AM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: AndyJackson
The only conservative legislation are bills that repeal liberal legistlation.

Agreed. Hence my comment. But after some of the liberal spending (aid to Africa, expansion of NEA funding, PBS funding, Pill Bill), you have to just hope to stop their expansion of liberal programs. Then start on repealing.
69 posted on 09/06/2005 4:52:23 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: SlowBoat407

What's that white vest he's got on?


70 posted on 09/06/2005 4:57:15 AM PDT by jaydubya
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To: jaydubya

I think it's either a flak jacket or part of a white 3-piece suit.


71 posted on 09/06/2005 5:03:50 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (My tagline has been looted.)
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To: GretchenM; Howlin
Just heard a radio report that mentioned Lott is intervening in a squabble between Mississippi emergency team and FEMA. The dispute is over 20,000 trailers that are apparently now in Georgia. FEMA is stalling their movement, saying they have to have contracts to release them.

Looks like Lott is actually representing his state's interests here instead of moaning for the cameras about his own house.

So I guess a Lott bump is in order. I expect we'll see a thread on Lott's intervention later today.
72 posted on 09/06/2005 5:08:25 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: petitfour; GretchenM; WKB

I just found an article in the clarionledger that mentions Trent Lott's 150 year old home that was destroyed. I wonder when he bought it.


73 posted on 09/06/2005 6:11:55 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: GretchenM; petitfour

If he had said
"I wish that damn storm would have blown my house away"
Would you be happy?


74 posted on 09/06/2005 6:19:40 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: WKB

lolol

You know I have begun ignoring the bashing, but sometimes I just can't stop myself from replying. Have you read the CL story that has a link that talks about the President's visit to Mississippi? It is by some female named Ana _____. It does not paint a very flattering picture of MS pols nor President Bush. I'm too annoyed to go back to that site to find the link for ya!


75 posted on 09/06/2005 6:24:17 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: petitfour
Just think if the Continuous Liar
was the ONLY paper you had to read,.


Not long ago Ana wrote a story in which
she called Donald Rumsfeld the Sec of State.
I sent her an email pointing out D R is Sec of
Defense.
She wrote back
"Good catch "Neither" me "or" my editors were smart
enough to catch it".
She admitted they are dumb and used bad grammar
to prove her point.
76 posted on 09/06/2005 6:32:00 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: George W. Bush

If you haven't read it yet, click on this link and scroll down to where Lott starts talking.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0509/02/acd.01.html

He absolutely cleaned Anderson Cooper's clock and almost made Gloria's boy cry.

Much as I hate to admit it, he is almost the only one who has stood up to the press and stood up for Bush.


77 posted on 09/06/2005 9:22:55 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: jslade

Yes, I did; and I apologize to Haley; he's been great.


78 posted on 09/06/2005 9:24:00 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Howlin
He absolutely cleaned Anderson Cooper's clock and almost made Gloria's boy cry. Much as I hate to admit it, he is almost the only one who has stood up to the press and stood up for Bush.

Yeah, I thought you might have just missed it in the torrent of Katrina coverage. Like Barbour, Lott has been pretty loyal to Bush and FEMA throughout. He's probably taking a little heat for it back home.
79 posted on 09/06/2005 9:43:28 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: petitfour
I just found an article in the clarionledger that mentions Trent Lott's 150 year old home that was destroyed. I wonder when he bought it.

When Bush was there, they mentioned it was the home he raised his children in. No one said whether it was a home handed down in the family.
80 posted on 09/06/2005 9:45:15 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: Howlin

Well, Lott was wrong about funding for the Army Corps NOLA levee project.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1478445/posts


81 posted on 09/06/2005 9:51:06 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: Howlin

I kind of liked the way Britt handled the situation last night.


82 posted on 09/06/2005 9:52:50 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Kryptonite

From the CNN transcript:

COOPER: In retrospect, was it a mistake for the federal government in the last couple years to cut the budget for the army corps of engineers in southeastern Louisiana for hurricane protection? Was it a mistake to cut some of the federal funding for flood control in that region?

LOTT: Yes, I do think that's been a mistake. People that don't live in flood areas of the country -- and lots of the country don't really fully understand good work the corps does and how badly we need it. Yes, I don't think it was a wise decision. I think we should put more into flood control problems.

But, you know, you've got papers like the "Washington Post" editorializing against what the corps does when they build levees and they build pumps. But yes, we ought to be putting more into it, and I vote that way every year.




[Quotes below are from Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, Commander of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, and Chief of Engineers, and are excerpted from his remarks during a U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Special Briefing for the media via conference call on Thursday, September 1, 2005 at 1 p.m. EDT. A full transcript is available from the Public Affairs Office at (202) 761-0011.]

There have been suggestions that inadequate funding for levee projects delayed their completion and resulted in the flooding of New Orleans.

GEN. STROCK: "In fact, the levee failures we saw were in areas of the projects that were at their full project design... So that part of the project was in place, and had this project been fully complete ... [West Bank, Southeast Louisiana, and Lake Ponchartrain] it's my opinion, based on the intensity of this storm, that the flooding of the Central Business District and the French Quarter would still have occurred. So I do not see that the level of funding is really a contributing factor in this case."

There have also been suggestions that the Corps of Engineers was unable to fully fund flood control needs in New Orleans or elsewhere because funding was diverted to the Global War on Terror.

GEN. STROCK: "Let me also address the issue of the general impact of the war in Iraq on civil works funding. We've seen some suggestions that our budget has been affected by the war. I can also say that I do not see that to be the case. If you look at the historical levels of funding for the Corps of Engineers from the pre-war levels back to 1992, '91, before we actually got into this, you'll see that the level of funding has been fairly stable throughout that period. So I think we would see that our funding levels would have dropped off if that were the case; so I do not see that as an issue that is relevant to the discussion of the flood protection of the City of New Orleans."

Finally, some believe that New Orleans flooded because there were inadequate coastal wetlands in Southern Louisiana to absorb the storm surge.

GEN. STROCK: "Again, my assessment in this case is that any loss of wetlands in the barrier islands associated with those processes did not have a significant impact on this event. I say this because the storm track took it east of the City of New Orleans, and most of those barrier islands and marshlands are located to the south and west of the city; so the storm did not track through that direction anyway, and I don't think that that was a contributing factor in the situation."



83 posted on 09/06/2005 9:55:24 AM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: EnquiringMind

Remind me.


84 posted on 09/06/2005 9:55:55 AM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Howlin

Britt held up a picture of the Mayor's pool of buses.


85 posted on 09/06/2005 11:31:59 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: nicmarlo

Did you happen to hear Rush today? I actually got to. He blasted those idiots out of the water. Then this one guy actually called in and accused him of spinning and said that he really believes that Bush wants black people dead. Just when I thought the DUmmies couldn't get any dummber. This pinhead was blaming the situation on Republicans. I loved Rush's response. He said, "what party has been in charge of the city of New Orleans for the past 50 (?) years?" The guy says, "democrats." Then Rush said, "and what party has been running the state of Louisiana for the past 5 decades?" The guy says, "democrats." Rush goes on to ask him him how, in a city run by democats in a state run by democrats, he could say it was the Republicans' fault. LOL! It was great. Needless to say, the guy didn't have an answer, so he spouted some NAACP talking points crap about how Bush wouldn't meet with black leaders.


86 posted on 09/06/2005 2:55:59 PM PDT by sweetliberty (Stupidity should make you sterile.)
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To: sweetliberty
He said, "what party has been in charge of the city of New Orleans for the past 50 (?) years?" The guy says, "democrats." Then Rush said, "and what party has been running the state of Louisiana for the past 5 decades?" The guy says, "democrats." Rush goes on to ask him him how, in a city run by democats in a state run by democrats, he could say it was the Republicans' fault. LOL! It was great. Needless to say, the guy didn't have an answer..

No, I didn't get to listen to him; I need to get a radio with a non-broken antenna at work so I can hear him.

Those are great questions asked by Rush....there would be no sane or truthful answer to that if one was intent on continuing to blame Bush/Republicans....yet, they try. thanks for the update.

87 posted on 09/06/2005 3:01:05 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: petitfour

I thought he said it was in Miss. but I am not sure.


88 posted on 09/06/2005 7:21:55 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: WKB

My point seems to have escaped you. I am not happy at all that he lost his home and everything that was in it. It is his superior attitude, his stinking, superior attitude, that galls me.


89 posted on 09/06/2005 7:31:13 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM

Trent did no honor to himself during the self-pitying interview he gave after talking on TV about his 150+ year old house that had "withstood everything" nature could throw at it, till Katrina ... it disgusted me.

"My point seems to have escaped you. I am not happy at all that he lost his home and everything that was in it. It is his superior attitude, his stinking, superior attitude, that galls me."


I guess I did miss that part


90 posted on 09/06/2005 7:35:53 PM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: veronica
It's appropriate to save people with helicopters, but it can't be done to the exclusion of everything else," Jindal was quoted by Time magazine as saying.

Uh, could that be because the ones doing the rescuing were federal troops and couldn't be used for law enforcement?

91 posted on 09/06/2005 7:43:22 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Global Dumbing far more serious threat than Global Warming)
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To: WKB

Well, bless your heart . . .

roflmbo


92 posted on 09/06/2005 7:47:12 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: WKB

I didn't elaborate on it in the original post -- the "self-pitying" part, but that was also where he was talking down to the little people, which seems to be where he lives, but he does have some success in glossing over it when he's giving practiced, slick speeches and can rely on the forms of correct political speech. When speaking to the camera about his house, it was straight Trent.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.


93 posted on 09/06/2005 7:48:01 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM; petitfour
I have been living in Mississippi almost
55 years and you know what?
I think you are way off base
and are just another Lott hater and looking for
something to bitch about.
94 posted on 09/06/2005 7:51:03 PM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: WKB

You speak a lot without knowledge and I am not going to get into a sparring match with you over this. You are wrong when you say I am a Lott hater. I am not. I can't stand a lot about him but I do not hate him.

I can discern a lot about a politician or any person when they have as much face time on TV as Trent does.

I don't like the man's oppressive persona. I don't like his racial stance. I think he is slimy. He has done some fine things, I am sure, meaning, he has cast some votes that have helped his state and the nation. But I personally do not like watching him speak. It's like the old saying, You don't want to eat bologna once you've seen it made.

The end.


95 posted on 09/06/2005 7:59:23 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM; WKB

You just go right ahead and keep discerning. I think you are way off base when it comes to Trent Lott. I know his voting record, and I'd take his record over that of almost every other sitting US senator.


96 posted on 09/06/2005 8:10:46 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: GretchenM

Read that post again
and tell me you are REAL sure
you are not a Lott hater.
If you are not a Lott hater
you would make a real good one.


97 posted on 09/06/2005 8:10:54 PM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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To: WKB
tell me you are REAL sure you are not a Lott hater. If you are not a Lott hater you would make a real good one.

I am "real sure."

You seem determined to pigeon-hole me in that category. You are wrong if you do.

I am a Christian, born again, as you state on your home page that you are. A person can strongly dislike, even hate, what someone does without hating him / her or wanting to be in the same room with him / her. That's how I am re Lott. I tell you before God and by the faith I have in Jesus Christ, I do not hate Trent Lott. If that isn't enough to convince you -- my testimony through the blood of the One who forgives me -- nothing will.

98 posted on 09/06/2005 9:19:17 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: petitfour

Please note I separated my opinion of his voting record from my opinion of him as a person.


99 posted on 09/06/2005 9:21:17 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: GretchenM

Hate the sin\Love the sinner
Love the man \Hate his politics. :>)


100 posted on 09/07/2005 7:08:27 AM PDT by WKB (A closed mind is a good thing to lose.)
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