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Magic Marker Strategy (Katrina)
NY Times ^ | September 6, 2005 | JOHN TIERNEY

Posted on 09/05/2005 8:55:53 PM PDT by neverdem

It was the climax of George W. Bush's video introduction at the Republican convention: the moment at Yankee Stadium during the 2001 World Series when he threw a pitch all the way to home plate. The video ended, and the conventioneers cheered as Mr. Bush strode onto a stage shaped like a pitcher's mound.

Well, live by the pitch, die by the pitch. When you campaign as the man on the mound, the great leader whose arm rescues Americans in their moment of need, they expect you to deal with a hurricane, too.

Mr. Bush made a lot of mistakes last week, but most of his critics are making an even bigger one now by obsessing about what he said and did. We can learn more by listening to men like Jim Judkins, particularly when he explains the Magic Marker method of disaster preparedness.

Mr. Judkins is one of the officials in charge of evacuating the Hampton Roads region around Newport News, Va. These coastal communities, unlike New Orleans, are not below sea level, but they're much better prepared for a hurricane. Officials have plans to run school buses and borrow other buses to evacuate those without cars, and they keep registries of the people who need special help.

Instead of relying on a "Good Samaritan" policy - the fantasy in New Orleans that everyone would take care of the neighbors - the Virginia rescue workers go door to door. If people resist the plea to leave, Mr. Judkins told The Daily Press in Newport News, rescue workers give them Magic Markers and ask them to write their Social Security numbers on their body parts so they can be identified.

"It's cold, but it's effective," Mr. Judkins explained.

That simple strategy could have persuaded hundreds of people to save their...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Louisiana; US: New York; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: giuliani; hurricanekatrina; katrina; neworleans; rescues; rudolphwgiuliani

1 posted on 09/05/2005 8:55:53 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The trouble is that in New Orleans the Mayor would probably want President Bush to pay for those Magic Markers.


2 posted on 09/05/2005 8:58:54 PM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: neverdem

Despite the protestations of the communist NY Slimes, the facts will reveal that LA Governor Blanco and NO Mayor Nagin failed to act, while GW and the federal government eventually had to take charge from these inept, corrupt democrats. Memo to NT Slimes -- you ARE the weakest link.


3 posted on 09/05/2005 9:02:09 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Hate yourself? Hate everybody else, too? You'll be at home with the Democrats!)
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To: The South Texan

And another question, what color should they be, for readability?


4 posted on 09/05/2005 9:03:03 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (This tagline is temporarily closed for re-modeling)
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To: neverdem
Didn't Jeb use a variation of this sort of tactic when he told those that wouldn't evacuate to make sure they had ID so the families of the dead could be notified?
5 posted on 09/05/2005 9:10:18 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (Free Republic.........On the cutting edge of news!)
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To: neverdem

WTF is going on at the NYT?

I guess their bash the Pubbies strategy has failed.

A week into the crisis and a levelheaded report does not compare/contrast with the vast quantity of moonbattery and racebaiting editorials that pass as news from the Old Grey Whore.


6 posted on 09/05/2005 9:11:31 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

Did you read the rest of the story?


7 posted on 09/05/2005 9:11:49 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Not now, Not ever!

Flourescent ink, wave a UV light over it, and voila, instant legibility.


8 posted on 09/05/2005 9:13:16 PM PDT by Darksheare (There is a Possum in the works.)
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To: neverdem

BUMP!


9 posted on 09/05/2005 9:14:31 PM PDT by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: axes_of_weezles

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Did you read the rest of the story?


10 posted on 09/05/2005 9:15:32 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

How bout a 3 month pause in posting from the NYT on this site? We won't miss the bastards and will likely find we can do without them.


11 posted on 09/05/2005 9:15:52 PM PDT by Waco
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To: CAluvdubya
Didn't Jeb use a variation of this sort of tactic when he told those that wouldn't evacuate to make sure they had ID so the families of the dead could be notified?

I don't know.

12 posted on 09/05/2005 9:17:49 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross; Mo1; Diddle E. Squat; A Citizen Reporter

Add this one to the mounting evidence against LA!


14 posted on 09/05/2005 9:18:44 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: neverdem

Hell no. I will read what folks post here, no way is my browser going to grace their site.

This portion of the article looked levelheaded, unlike most of the tripe they produce.


15 posted on 09/05/2005 9:19:49 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
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To: neverdem
Maybe Lousiana residents should have elected John Kerry as mayor or governor. I hear he had a plan.

NEW ORLEANS FLASHBACK: OFFICALS WARNED RESIDENTS 'YOU'LL BE ON YOUR OWN'

But the TIMES-PICAYUNE published a story on July 24, 2005 stating: City, state and federal emergency officials are preparing to give a historically blunt message: "In the event of a major hurricane, you're on your own."

Staff writer Bruce Nolan reported some 7 weeks before Katrina: "In scripted appearances being recorded now, officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation."


16 posted on 09/05/2005 9:19:51 PM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: Howlin

So that's why I saw 666 written in black on Mary Landrieu...


17 posted on 09/05/2005 9:22:16 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat (Gone, gone with the waves....)
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To: neverdem

Within a day or two, you will see the MSM shift gears into "now is not the time to point fingers mode" as the evidence of Louisiana culpability adds up.


18 posted on 09/05/2005 9:22:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Waco
How bout a 3 month pause in posting from the NYT on this site? We won't miss the bastards and will likely find we can do without them.

What's wrong with this article by John Tierney? It's on the money. Have you ever read Garbage is Recycling?

19 posted on 09/05/2005 9:23:26 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Unfortunately, evacuating this place (Hampton Roads) is a nightmare unless you're leaving by boat. Every road out of here jams up if you just look at it the wrong way.


20 posted on 09/05/2005 9:23:29 PM PDT by SlowBoat407 (My tagline has been looted.)
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To: Not now, Not ever!

"And another question, what color should they be, for readability?"

I can't believe you said that!!!!

(I only THOUGHT it.) :-)


21 posted on 09/05/2005 9:25:09 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: neverdem

Nice analysis.


22 posted on 09/05/2005 9:26:03 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: neverdem
The local officials who knew about that problem didn't do anything about it - and then were furious when Mr. Bush didn't solve it for them. Why didn't the man on the mound come through for them?

He calls this a fair question? The man on the mound is looking at months and months of displaced people now in football stadiums, churches, YMCA buildings, etc. He's looking at rebuilding entire communities. He's looking at the economic impact on the entire country. I find this rush to judge him ineffective or effective absolute lunacy.

23 posted on 09/05/2005 9:26:06 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: weegee

Thanks for the link.


24 posted on 09/05/2005 9:26:43 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: weegee

-----"....officials such as Mayor Ray Nagin, local Red Cross Executive Director Kay Wilkins and City Council President Oliver Thomas drive home the word that the city does not have the resources to move out of harm's way an estimated 134,000 people without transportation."-----

But wait. I thought that was the National Guard's duty to transport these people? At least that's what Nagin and the MSM would have us believe.


25 posted on 09/05/2005 9:27:40 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: axes_of_weezles
Hell no. I will read what folks post here, no way is my browser going to grace their site.

Use bugmenot.com.

26 posted on 09/05/2005 9:30:27 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem

Name the many mistakes the President made.

They can't do it other than a complaint about HLS.

Oh, sure, they finally admit the LA officials fail. They finally start to look a little at the welfare state and dismantle it.

But still the usual tripe and shots at Bush diminish the piece since that man on the mound is the person that saved millions of lives by calling the Governors for evacuation, practically begging Blanco to evacuate. That man is the one that had to calm the incompetant fools and ride to the rescue with our wonderful military. That man on the Mound is the one that has not descended to new lows in finger pointing, but instead rallied people to stay concentrated on rescue, relief and charitable donations.

This piece isn't good enough, not by a long shot. I'm not in the mood to accept bits anymore. They gave bits of praise inbetween bite earlier in the year with the vote in Iraq, lebanon revolution, etc...Look what happened afterwards.

Until the full Truth is given credit without malice or cheap shots I'm not going to praise the article, even if they take a dig at the welfare state.


27 posted on 09/05/2005 9:37:02 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: The South Texan

ROFL!


28 posted on 09/05/2005 9:51:24 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Soul Seeker

I keep hearing the media say that Bush was 24 hrs too late... but wasn't it Blanco that ASKED for 24 hrs to make a decision as to whether or not to let him intervene?


29 posted on 09/05/2005 9:56:43 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: neverdem

There's a lot of wisdom in the piece, "balanced" by foggy criticism.


30 posted on 09/05/2005 10:00:24 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: neverdem

http://www.asambleasociedadcivilcuba.info/CPrensa/CANF.htm

LOUISIANA GOV & CASTRO LOBSTER LUNCH???? ( SNIP)

"The resolution is in contrast to a recent trip by Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco to Cuba where she had a lobster dinner with Fidel Castro. Governor Blanco's meeting with Castro has come under fire by Louisianans for failing to meet with dissidents, call for democratic reforms, release of political prisoners, freedom of the press, and respect for human rights."

(Louisiana Gov has more in common with Cuba than US methinks.)


31 posted on 09/05/2005 11:10:00 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Soul Seeker; wardaddy
Name the many mistakes the President made.

You've been on this forum long enough, since May 7, 2004. His performance in this disaster stems from his reluctance to make honest criticism of the knuckleheads in Louisiana, including FEMA, the governor and mayor, IMHO.

Whether that comes from an personal instinct not to deliberately offend anyone, a political calculation to continue a "new tone" in Washington or an inhibition to call a spade a spade, it really doesn't matter because the effect is the same.

Maybe you can tell me why he hasn't cast one veto against all sorts of BS passed by Congress, besides crap that he advocated such as the "No Child Left Behind" expansion of the feds into education as well as the prescription drug benefit expansion of Medicare.

He has no excuse now that he's a lame duck for not using the veto, not that he had much of an excuse before he was re-elected.

32 posted on 09/05/2005 11:32:34 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem; Soul Seeker; wardaddy
Name the many mistakes the President made. -Soul Seeker

His performance in this disaster stems from his reluctance to make honest criticism of the knuckleheads in Louisiana, including FEMA, the governor and mayor, IMHO. -neverdem

Failure to rhetorically bat away the responsible but feckless officials, local and federal, doesn't rise to the level implied when John Tierney wrote: Mr. Bush made a lot of mistakes last week.

33 posted on 09/05/2005 11:41:01 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: neverdem
Memo to all Mayors and Governors:

The NYT wins. In case of disaster in your area do absolutely nothing to save lives, protect property or relieve suffering. Your new assignment is to blame Bush, blame Bush and blame Bush. Got that? Good, together we will build a better America.

34 posted on 09/05/2005 11:43:34 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Fred Nerks
Louisiana Gov has more in common with Cuba than US methinks.

I don't live in Florida, but who's surprised? Dems weren't called pinkos for nothing. I remember my older sister telling me over dinner, "better red than dead". Thank God she got some wisdom with age. Thanks for the link.

35 posted on 09/05/2005 11:46:48 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Howlin
"In coastal Virginia - which, by the way, has a large black population and plenty of Republican politicians - Mr. Judkins and his colleagues assume that it's their job to evacuate people, maintain order and stockpile supplies to last for 72 hours, until federal help arrives."

I see that this guy doesn't buy the "Ellis Henican" theory of local officials' response. That theory, which he promoted yesterday, is that Local officials can't be counted on in a national emergency, because they've lost their homes and families.

36 posted on 09/06/2005 4:54:38 AM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: neverdem

You are a partisan hack.

I say this because instead of finding fault with his response to the hurricane, you can only introduce policies from legislation that doesn't concern this at all.

And, BTW, "new tone" doesn't have a damn thing to do with this at all as YOU should know. Maybe if the President cared more about politics then he did restoring order to save lives he would indulge in what political hacks enjoy. Finger pointing. Instead he kept his head and got this done.

Take a hike until you can grow up.


37 posted on 09/06/2005 5:33:46 AM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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