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CA Assembly passes driver's licenses for illegal aliens (Gil Cedillo's SB-60)
CA Assembly ^ | 9/2/05 | CA Assembly

Posted on 09/06/2005 9:46:39 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com

On Friday the California Assembly voted 43-31 to approve SB60, state Sen. Gil Cedillo's bill that would give driver's licenses to illegal aliens.

I believe this now goes to Arnold Schwarzenegger for his signature. He has said he would veto driver's license bills before the federal government has released their guidelines for implementing the REAL ID Act, but it's always good to make sure.

Please call, FAX, or email Schwarzenegger and demand that he veto this bill:

Phone: 916-445-2841 FAX: 916-445-4633 email form: govmail.ca.gov


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; callegislation; cedillo; civilwarii; driverslicense; gilcedillo; immigrantlist; sb60
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1 posted on 09/06/2005 9:46:43 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

doesn't the fed law for driver's license parameters trump this???


2 posted on 09/06/2005 9:51:06 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Incredible


3 posted on 09/06/2005 9:52:35 AM PDT by aworldtrader
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To: kellynla

It should but......
can we say Supreme Court?


4 posted on 09/06/2005 9:54:28 AM PDT by From One - Many (Able Danger - No Intelligence Failure - Media Lied Again)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
For the life of me I'll never understand what runs through the minds of these California Liberals. My best guess is it is the same thing that runs out their arse.
5 posted on 09/06/2005 9:55:10 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Here we go again.


6 posted on 09/06/2005 9:55:56 AM PDT by stopem
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
This makes me so mad.

One explanation I heard was that they need to be able to drive to take their kids to school and to get to work . If they are illegal they don't have the right to work.

Outrageous!

7 posted on 09/06/2005 9:56:15 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: kellynla
doesn't the fed law for driver's license parameters trump this???

yes, but the federal law says only that if the state issues driver's licenses to illegals, they must be specially marked. So, unlike past years, Cedillo's bill would have the illegal alien licenses specially marked, which would then make them comply with federal law.

The feds actually have no authority over whether a state can issue licenses, specially marked or not, to illegals. The federal law just says that if the state doesn't mark them, no license issued by that state will be recognized as valid ID for federal purposes, such as airline flights.

8 posted on 09/06/2005 9:58:27 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: From One - Many

Just called the office and voted. However, they call them 'undocumented immigrants" on the recording, not ILLEGAL ALIENS!


9 posted on 09/06/2005 9:58:33 AM PDT by Never2baCrat (I used to be modest, now I'm perfect!)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Whew! Glad I don't live there! Nice going Mexifornians.


10 posted on 09/06/2005 9:59:59 AM PDT by highlymotivated (If American ever falls, a STINKING LIBERAL will be behind it.)
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To: aworldtrader

I really need to get out of this state. I have had it up to my eyeballs. Another thing they did, is that that passed a bill to allow same sex marriages.


11 posted on 09/06/2005 10:00:17 AM PDT by mzbzybee (Proud To Be a Army Mom)
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To: Churchillspirit
One explanation I heard was that they need to be able to drive to take their kids to school and to get to work . If they are illegal they don't have the right to work.

What kills me is the argument, "we have to subsidize college tuition for illegals because it'll make them productive members of society." What nobody ever asks these dopes is, why is having a college degree useful to someone who it's illegal to hire in the first place? Clearly the intent is to erase any distinction between illegal and legal residents.

12 posted on 09/06/2005 10:02:15 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: mzbzybee

The question remains then, why don't Democratic & Republican congresspeople support an "open borders" policy?


13 posted on 09/06/2005 10:05:38 AM PDT by George Oh Well
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To: George Oh Well

you got me, might as well do it.


14 posted on 09/06/2005 10:06:35 AM PDT by mzbzybee (Proud To Be a Army Mom)
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To: John Jorsett

Wouldn't it be sweet if the INS were at the DMV with their buses waiting our front ready to arrest the illegals as they showed up to get a driver's license. LMAO


15 posted on 09/06/2005 10:07:11 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: mzbzybee
I really need to get out of this state. I have had it up to my eyeballs.

You and me both.

Another thing they did, is that that passed a bill to allow same sex marriages.

It'll be interesting to see what bills Arnold does or does not veto.

16 posted on 09/06/2005 10:11:09 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Loony tunes time.


17 posted on 09/06/2005 10:11:29 AM PDT by hershey
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

They should pass them out in Mexico free..

The border patrol was sent to La.

The borders are wide open...who cares anymore who
comes or goes..

You dont need no steenking borders
Just keep marching to your new world orders


18 posted on 09/06/2005 10:15:55 AM PDT by joesnuffy (A bible that is falling apart, usually belongs to someone who isn't - Spurgeon)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Do we have to fight this fight again?

Good God, can't we get rid of One Bill Gil?


19 posted on 09/06/2005 10:16:34 AM PDT by Shazbot29 (muhammed was the most evil person ever to live. May he burn in hell forever)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


20 posted on 09/06/2005 10:18:30 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: lonewacko_dot_com
Governor Schwarzenegger's telephone line is busy (no surprise there!) so I've sent an email to him strongly requesting he veto SB60.

I called my local legislator last Friday and objected and was told that the CA Republican Party had urged all members to vote against it, and I see that they did (from the roll call link) -- a good thing but it also points out the travesty that the state now endures under the Democrat majority in our legislature...just read those names.

This legislation rewards criminal behavior. It is a shortterm effort to profit from rewarding illegal behavior and the people who voted for it do NOT deserve to be in our state legislature, do NOT deserve to maintain elected office here or anywhere.

Every single one of them SHOULD be written to by citizens nationwide and chastised for their dastardly, disrespectful and criminally-commisserating cheat vote in "passing" SB60.

The University of CA has been lobbying and lecturing (!) and otherwise leaning heavily on public opinion to pass SB60 so more indication of just where your tax dollars go in CA...to fund the DNC and liberal politics to include appeasing for illegal behavior.

An employee of University of CA, also who is a member of AZTLAN -- a Mexican racist organization that denigrates U.S. immigration laws -- using your tax dollars...


21 posted on 09/06/2005 10:20:59 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: John Jorsett

The Oval Office pics. on your homepage are hilarious. Please post them on a suitable thread. They are so funny they should be shared.


22 posted on 09/06/2005 10:21:32 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Instead of deporting criminals, they get drivers license. Wacky!


23 posted on 09/06/2005 10:22:55 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: highlymotivated

I don't know a single person who supports this bill, not one.


24 posted on 09/06/2005 10:23:14 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: TheForceOfOne

"For the life of me I'll never understand what runs through the minds of these California Liberals."

Emotionally, guilt.

Monetarily, the transportation industry. Big money to put illegals in the drivers seats, to depress work.king people's wage bargaining power. Trucking, hauling, etc. will eventually be poverty-level jobs.

To the free marketers, drivers licenses are an unfair trade barrier, as are borders.


25 posted on 09/06/2005 10:23:47 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: mzbzybee
I really need to get out of this state. I have had it up to my eyeballs.

You and me both.

26 posted on 09/06/2005 10:25:41 AM PDT by Nea Wood (A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children. Proverbs 13:22)
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To: DumpsterDiver

I'v been trying to fax him, but the line has been busy for the last 20 minutes!!! They probably turned it off!


27 posted on 09/06/2005 10:29:10 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted!!)
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

How can the illegals get a driver's license without proof of insurance? How can they get insurance without a proof of income? How can they get a job if they are illegal? This is nuts!


28 posted on 09/06/2005 10:30:33 AM PDT by NorseWood
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

Veto it Arnold.


29 posted on 09/06/2005 10:34:56 AM PDT by afnamvet
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To: SweetCaroline
I'v been trying to fax him, but the line has been busy for the last 20 minutes!!! They probably turned it off!

They probably did. They can only take so much outrage from voters and then they need a coffee break.

30 posted on 09/06/2005 10:36:03 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: TheForceOfOne

governor blano?I think arnold better think twice before he considers signing. Californian's will rebel.


31 posted on 09/06/2005 10:39:45 AM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: aworldtrader

One Bill Gil is what we call him out here.

Last week the senate voted against the constitution for gay marriage when 80% of Californians said no.

We have no representation in our government out here.


32 posted on 09/06/2005 10:41:15 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: DumpsterDiver

we're going to need a caravan. I'm right behind you. I think the great state of Texas might be the place.


33 posted on 09/06/2005 10:42:55 AM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: DumpsterDiver

We faxed 50 different faxes from neighbors along with a copy of all signatures we collected a while back. that was one of the primary reason he got elected. He (&*&$#@* better veto the bill. Or he's going to be hearing est la vista (sp) . These people won't get insurance, they will only get insurance to obtain license then cancel. Of course Los angeles county has special rates for LA county which discriminates against everyone else in the state.

texas here we come


34 posted on 09/06/2005 10:51:59 AM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: SweetCaroline

I just called one of his regional offices and they said that it was probably a case of sites and numbers being "overwhelmed" (a lot of people all trying at once to fax, call, email).

You can register a numerical, non-personal opinion vote on the 916-445-2841 (Sacramento/Capitol) number...they'll ask if you want to register an opinion on legislation, press (#) and then offer you the option to register a yes/no opinion on both SB60 (drivers licenses/illegalaliens) and SB849 (called "gender neutral marriage bill" of all things).

I did that and then I also wrote an email...
governor@govmail.ca.gov

and I called one of the regional offices and shared my opinions with them.

The San Diego office is really well staffed, for a suggestion here. You/anyone can find the regional office numbers (and addresses) at:

http://www.governor.ca.gov/state/govsite/gov_homepage.jsp

See "Contact the Governor" link...


35 posted on 09/06/2005 11:06:32 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: newfrpr04

Senators/ Congressman from non- border states who do not have to pander to the illegal alien lobby really have to step up. This affects everyone's security, not just the People's Republic of California.


36 posted on 09/06/2005 11:07:08 AM PDT by Rosemont
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To: DumpsterDiver

No, the regional office I just spoke with spent a lot of time with me, listened to my opinions and interacted with everything I said, AND assured me my opinion was being sent to the Governor.

So, try any one of the regional offices for the Governor (I'd avoid the L.A. office, just because it's L.A.) and vocalize your opinion that way, plus write an email and call the 916-445-2841 Capitol number and use the numerical options relative to SB60 (and SB 848 while you're at it although you may have to call twice as I did to lodge an opinion about both, also as I did).

I wanted to add here that everyone, EVERYone, I've spoken with who is affiliated with Governor Schwarzenegger's Administration are always, ALWAYS, very cordial, sincere, interested and available to listen. No coffee-breaker, party types among them, in my experience.


37 posted on 09/06/2005 11:10:59 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: edcoil

That legislation is called "SB849" and is titled (by Democrats, just to be clear) the "Gender Neutral Marriage Bill."

It is ALSO up for veto by Governor Schwarzenegger as is SB60 (D.L. for illegal aliens) and BOTH bills were introduced by Democrats in the state assembly nearly devoid of publicity, and against voter repeated opinion, such that they have truly tried to hijack the issues and get them passed quite like the little, most foul liberals that they are.

Please call about both bills and encourage Governor Schwarzenegger to veto both: SB60 and SB849.

He does that, he'll get re-elected, I'm sure. He doesn't, he's not going to get another term.


38 posted on 09/06/2005 11:14:28 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: kellynla

One bill Gil strikes again. If Arnold doesn't veto this, he's sunk. Called AND e-mailed.


39 posted on 09/06/2005 11:15:22 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: BIRDS

Emailed him about both...


40 posted on 09/06/2005 11:17:24 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: janetgreen

I'm still betting that RINOld's wife convinces him to hit the southbound 5 next year...
can't live off what he makes on payola. LOL


41 posted on 09/06/2005 11:24:09 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: janetgreen

I agree...I told the regional office as much, that if Arnold allowed both or even either of these two bills to pass, he'd lose re-election.

These are the bread&butter issues for most of us conservatives and the cornerstone upon which we voted for Schwarzenegger for office. He's going to lose conservative voting support remaining if he lets these two pass, or either one.


42 posted on 09/06/2005 11:25:20 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: CheneyChick

Great!


43 posted on 09/06/2005 11:26:20 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: CheneyChick

Great!


44 posted on 09/06/2005 11:27:07 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS

That picture is NOT of Armando Navarro, the UCR professor:

http://www.americanpatrol.com/05-FEATURES/050719-MMP-NEEDS-AID-CAMPO/Correction.html

While Navarro is on the other side, we don't want to falsely accuse someone. I believe that Navarro has also mentioned suing over this.


45 posted on 09/06/2005 11:38:32 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: mzbzybee

"I really need to get out of this state. I have had it up to my eyeballs."

Left Cali in 1994. They made laws on how many pets you could own, couldn't park your car on the grass in front of your own house, motorcycle helmet law. Heard gun shots and helicopters every night, burglary in broad daylight. And that was the nice neighborhoods.

It was a nice place to live though, in the '50s.


46 posted on 09/06/2005 11:55:09 AM PDT by AMERIKA
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To: lonewacko_dot_com

I never suggested it was anyone by any name.

YOU are the one who suggested it was/was not "Armando Navarro," not me. I never said it was anyone of any name, just "an employee of the University of California."


47 posted on 09/06/2005 11:55:48 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: BIRDS

THANKS!


48 posted on 09/06/2005 12:18:16 PM PDT by SweetCaroline (Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted!!)
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To: gubamyster

Very bad bill!

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


49 posted on 09/06/2005 2:43:54 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: kellynla

That and the Meji legislature didnt want to take any evacuees from the Gulf Coast.


50 posted on 09/06/2005 5:00:25 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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