Skip to comments.Rehnquist (Protestant) Funeral to Be in Catholic Church (location & size of Cathedral a factor)
Posted on 09/06/2005 3:15:11 PM PDT by ColeusEdited on 09/06/2005 3:27:08 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Wednesday's funeral for Chief Justice William Rehnquist, a Protestant, will be in Washington's Roman Catholic cathedral -- an unusual but not forbidden occurrence under church rules.
The Catholic directory on interfaith matters says churches are "generally reserved for Catholic worship" but local bishops may permit worship by other Christians who lack a place "for celebrating worthily their religious ceremonies."
(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...
No nailing of Theses on the front door please.
But, darn it, it's become a force of habit for us Lutherans.:)
I'm protestant but I wouldn't be upset at having my funeral at a Catholic Chrurch. I need all the help I can get, especially at that point in my life. ;)
This doesn't answer the question of why they didn't use the National Cathedral, another large, fairly centrally located house of worship that is Protestant.
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That was bad. For your penance, you must say 10 Hail Mary's - not.
I think it implied he was Lutheran
The family is a member of the Emmanuel Lutheran Church in Bethesda, Maryland.
Would somebody check with St. Peter and see if the same rules apply to heaven? I'm protestant, but don't want to take any chances. . .
"No nailing of Theses on the front door please."
Who knows? Maybe someone in attendance will find something beautiful within the service. You never know where that might lead. It wouldn't be the first time I have heard of someone converting. Especially the poor Episcopalians. I sure have met a few who have given their church up in total disgust.
Why not the National Cathedral?
The Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle honors the patron saint of civil servants. The Cathedral plays a major role in the Catholic life of the nation's capital. It is the seat of the Archbishop of Washington.
Pope John II celebrated Mass here on October 6, 1979. President John F. Kennedy's funeral Mass was said on November 25, 1963. Requiems have been held here for several heads of state. The "Red Mass," celebrated annually in the fall, requests guidance from the Holy Spirit for the conduct of the legal profession. It is attended by Supreme Court justices and members of Congress, the Cabinet, diplomatic corps, and other government departments, sometimes including the President of the United States.
Established in 1840, St. Matthew's originally was located at 15th and H Streets, N.W. Construction of the present church began in 1893 under the direction of Monsignor Thomas Sim Lee. The first Mass was celebrated on June 2, 1895. The church was dedicated in 1913 and designated a cathedral in 1939 when the Archdiocese of Washington was established. The Cathedral is one of the most impressive houses of worship in the United States. Designed by noted New York architect C. Grant La Farge, the Cathedral has been cited "as [having] one of the most beautiful church interiors of modern times." Its walls are laden with shimmering mosaics suggestive of those found in the renowned churches of Ravenna, Italy. The Cathedral is in the form of a Latin cross 155 feet long and 136 feet wide at the transepts. The interior of the dome rises 190 feet. The body of the Cathedral seats about 1,000 persons.
Website for the church: http://elcbeth.org/
It is impossible to tell from the website text that it is ELCA, but one can discern that the congregation is from the open communion statement. Anyone can commune there if that individual communes at his own church. Hmmm. Metropolitan Community Church? UCC? Roman Catholic?
If we cannot believe the same thing, then let us disbelief the same thing.
I happen to think that Benedict XVI likes McCarrick and respects him. I'd bet he serves as long as he likes, even up to the age 80, as Bevilacqua did in Philadelphia.
There are rapidly becoming two branches of Episopalians,
AAC (American Anlican Council) --- very conservative.
ECUSA ---- gay bishop, et al
Not sure which branch the National Catherdral is.
Rev. Jan Lookingbill of Emmanual Lutheran Church in Bethesda, Md., where Rehnquist long held membership... said he would participate in the funeral along with Pastors George Evans Jr. and Jeffrey Wilson of the Lutheran Church of the Redeemer in McLean, Va., where Rehnquist was a member in recent years.
Rehnquist's McLean and Bethesda congregations are affiliated with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, a denomination of 5 million members with headquarters in Chicago.
So--what is the problem?
He's not going to be BURIED there.
Since most of the 95 are tried and true Catholic doctrine, perhaps we'll just skip all that.
We can all raise a glass and remember Bill. He was a good man when he was among us.
You are correct. It is ELCA. I went to the denominational directory and found it there:
You do have to wonder why a member of a liberal Lutheran group wouldn't get buried in an Episcopal church.
You've got to be kidding, right? National Cathedral is as liberal, pro-homo, PC, left-wing, pantheistic Piskie as they come.
The conservative Anglican movement in this country is still small and struggling to get off the ground. If you have evidence to the contrary that would lead you to believe they might have captured the Washington National Cathedral, why do tell.
Think of Bill as an honorary Catholic.
Have your funeral in a Catholic Church, have a Rabbi perform it. Cover all the bases!
"You've got to be kidding, right?"
About what? Go read my post. Slowly.
"The dead don't have a religion"
A few years ago in a city near me, a neighborhood's residents were up in arms because the city wanted to place a home for mentally challenged adults in their neighborhood.
Their city councilman, who also lived in the neighborhood blasted them at a council meeting, telling them "It is my belief that these folks have a free pass to heaven. You had all better hope that they aren't on the zoning committee when you get there."
Ugh, that is just sick.
My goodness: that picture looks like something out of a very bad episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation."
If we cannot believe the same thing, then let us disbelief the same thing KINDA LIKE "THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY CHRISTIAN BROTHER" (or words to that effect)
ROFL! You have a deal. But we will leave some decent hymn books in the collection plate.
Seriously, it's nice of the Catholic Church to do this.
Actually, many churches, including Protestant, loan out their facilities to people of other faiths. You don't hear much about it because it would be catching the Christians in acts of tolerance, and we just can't have that, now, can we?
From what I read, he won't be getting a Catholic funeral, he'll be getting a Lutheran funeral in a Catholic church. So maybe some Episcopals will go Lutheran.
"Why not the National Cathedral?"
Good question. I hate sounding a like a religious prude, but I am an old school Catholic. The CJ was a great judge. But he was Protestant. The National Cathedral is a Protestant church. Go there.
You are too funny! :)
Very ECUSA!!! The National Cathedral is among the worst.
Now that I come to think about it, the Episcopalians are in "Full Concordance" with the liberal group of the Lutherans, I can't remember which one that is. Their priests can say mass in the Lutheran's churches and vice versa. This happened about five years ago to address areas like Minnesota where there are many Lutherans and few Piskies and other places where there are many Piskies and few Lutherans.
Aww, Shucks! How about stapling a shortened list, instead?
I'm sorry to sound disbelieving. I guess that was a inappropriate response. But I WISH the AAC was more prevalent. I don't even think there is one here in Houston, though I know of a small one in Richmond, about 45 minutes away.
That said, as a Catholic I find it strange that they'd have a funeral from Rehnquist at a Catholic church. Surely there is a Lutheran church in D.C. large enough to accommodate the funeral of a high-ranking government official.
Well, there's Lutheran and then there's LUTHERAN. They have nothing in common except the name.