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Rehnquist (Protestant) Funeral to Be in Catholic Church (location & size of Cathedral a factor)
Newsday, via drudge ^ | 09.06.05 | RICHARD N. OSTLING

Posted on 09/06/2005 3:15:11 PM PDT by Coleus

Edited on 09/06/2005 3:27:08 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Wednesday's funeral for Chief Justice William Rehnquist, a Protestant, will be in Washington's Roman Catholic cathedral -- an unusual but not forbidden occurrence under church rules.

The Catholic directory on interfaith matters says churches are "generally reserved for Catholic worship" but local bishops may permit worship by other Christians who lack a place "for celebrating worthily their religious ceremonies."


(Excerpt) Read more at newsday.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: cardinalmccarrick; catholiclist; decreeonecumenism; ecumenism; inrepose; rehnquist; scotus
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1 posted on 09/06/2005 3:15:15 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

No nailing of Theses on the front door please.


2 posted on 09/06/2005 3:17:54 PM PDT by keithtoo (Howard Dean's Democratic Party: Traitors, Haters, and Vacillators)
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*Breaking News* - Cardinal McCarrick's Resignation Not Accepted At This Time
3 posted on 09/06/2005 3:18:31 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: keithtoo

But, darn it, it's become a force of habit for us Lutherans.:)


4 posted on 09/06/2005 3:20:46 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (RIP, Chief Justice Rehnquist.)
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To: Coleus

I'm protestant but I wouldn't be upset at having my funeral at a Catholic Chrurch. I need all the help I can get, especially at that point in my life. ;)


5 posted on 09/06/2005 3:20:47 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (RIP New Orleans 1718-2005)
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To: Coleus

This doesn't answer the question of why they didn't use the National Cathedral, another large, fairly centrally located house of worship that is Protestant.


6 posted on 09/06/2005 3:21:45 PM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Coleus; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Which protestant denomination was Rehnquist?

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7 posted on 09/06/2005 3:21:51 PM PDT by NYer (It's Cool 2 B Catholic!)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

That was bad. For your penance, you must say 10 Hail Mary's - not.


8 posted on 09/06/2005 3:22:40 PM PDT by keithtoo (Howard Dean's Democratic Party: Traitors, Haters, and Vacillators)
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To: NYer

I think it implied he was Lutheran


9 posted on 09/06/2005 3:24:03 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: NYer

The family is a member of the Emmanuel Lutheran Church in Bethesda, Maryland.

http://supreme.lp.findlaw.com/supreme_court/justices/rehnquist.html


10 posted on 09/06/2005 3:24:38 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: NYer

ELCA Lutheran.


12 posted on 09/06/2005 3:27:42 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (RIP, Chief Justice Rehnquist.)
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To: NYer

Would somebody check with St. Peter and see if the same rules apply to heaven? I'm protestant, but don't want to take any chances. . .


13 posted on 09/06/2005 3:28:08 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: keithtoo

"No nailing of Theses on the front door please."

Indeed


14 posted on 09/06/2005 3:28:08 PM PDT by jec1ny (Adjutorium nostrum in nomine Domine Qui fecit caelum et terram.)
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To: keithtoo

LOL.


15 posted on 09/06/2005 3:29:11 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (RIP, Chief Justice Rehnquist.)
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To: Coleus

Who knows? Maybe someone in attendance will find something beautiful within the service. You never know where that might lead. It wouldn't be the first time I have heard of someone converting. Especially the poor Episcopalians. I sure have met a few who have given their church up in total disgust.


16 posted on 09/06/2005 3:29:41 PM PDT by warsaw44
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To: Coleus

Why not the National Cathedral?


17 posted on 09/06/2005 3:32:01 PM PDT by Oystir
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To: Coleus
Fascinating post. More Info:

The Cathedral of St. Matthew the Apostle honors the patron saint of civil servants. The Cathedral plays a major role in the Catholic life of the nation's capital. It is the seat of the Archbishop of Washington.

Pope John II celebrated Mass here on October 6, 1979. President John F. Kennedy's funeral Mass was said on November 25, 1963. Requiems have been held here for several heads of state. The "Red Mass," celebrated annually in the fall, requests guidance from the Holy Spirit for the conduct of the legal profession. It is attended by Supreme Court justices and members of Congress, the Cabinet, diplomatic corps, and other government departments, sometimes including the President of the United States.

Established in 1840, St. Matthew's originally was located at 15th and H Streets, N.W. Construction of the present church began in 1893 under the direction of Monsignor Thomas Sim Lee. The first Mass was celebrated on June 2, 1895. The church was dedicated in 1913 and designated a cathedral in 1939 when the Archdiocese of Washington was established. The Cathedral is one of the most impressive houses of worship in the United States. Designed by noted New York architect C. Grant La Farge, the Cathedral has been cited "as [having] one of the most beautiful church interiors of modern times." Its walls are laden with shimmering mosaics suggestive of those found in the renowned churches of Ravenna, Italy. The Cathedral is in the form of a Latin cross 155 feet long and 136 feet wide at the transepts. The interior of the dome rises 190 feet. The body of the Cathedral seats about 1,000 persons.


18 posted on 09/06/2005 3:33:46 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Website for the church: http://elcbeth.org/

It is impossible to tell from the website text that it is ELCA, but one can discern that the congregation is from the open communion statement. Anyone can commune there if that individual communes at his own church. Hmmm. Metropolitan Community Church? UCC? Roman Catholic?

If we cannot believe the same thing, then let us disbelief the same thing.


19 posted on 09/06/2005 3:33:50 PM PDT by sine_nomine (Protect the weakest of the weak - the unborn babies.)
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To: Coleus
I predicted that Benedict would not accept McCarrick's resignation.

I happen to think that Benedict XVI likes McCarrick and respects him. I'd bet he serves as long as he likes, even up to the age 80, as Bevilacqua did in Philadelphia.

20 posted on 09/06/2005 3:34:18 PM PDT by sinkspur (It is time for those of us who have much to share with those who have nothing.)
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To: Motherbear

There are rapidly becoming two branches of Episopalians,

AAC (American Anlican Council) --- very conservative.

ECUSA ---- gay bishop, et al

Not sure which branch the National Catherdral is.


21 posted on 09/06/2005 3:35:11 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A good friend helps you move. A great friend helps you move a body.)
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To: NYer
From the linked article:

Rev. Jan Lookingbill of Emmanual Lutheran Church in Bethesda, Md., where Rehnquist long held membership... said he would participate in the funeral along with Pastors George Evans Jr. and Jeffrey Wilson of the Lutheran Church of the Redeemer in McLean, Va., where Rehnquist was a member in recent years.

Rehnquist's McLean and Bethesda congregations are affiliated with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, a denomination of 5 million members with headquarters in Chicago.

22 posted on 09/06/2005 3:37:23 PM PDT by lightman (The Office of the Keys should be exercised as some ministry needs to be exorcised.)
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To: Motherbear
It is Episcopal but from it's outset it has had a mandate to offer nondenominational services.

The National Cathedral is amazing and if you have never been there make sure you go when you are in DC. They offer tours throughout the day.
23 posted on 09/06/2005 3:40:29 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Coleus

So--what is the problem?


24 posted on 09/06/2005 3:40:29 PM PDT by mom-7
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To: Motherbear

He's not going to be BURIED there.


25 posted on 09/06/2005 3:41:54 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for New Orleans.)
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To: keithtoo; WinOne4TheGipper
That was bad. For your penance,

Since most of the 95 are tried and true Catholic doctrine, perhaps we'll just skip all that.

We can all raise a glass and remember Bill. He was a good man when he was among us.

26 posted on 09/06/2005 3:42:33 PM PDT by siunevada
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To: sine_nomine
It is impossible to tell from the website text that it is ELCA, but one can discern that the congregation is from the open communion statement.

You are correct. It is ELCA. I went to the denominational directory and found it there:
http://www.elca.org/ScriptLib/OS/Congregations/cdsSearch.asp?state=MD&city=Bethesda&I3.x=17&I3.y=4

You do have to wonder why a member of a liberal Lutheran group wouldn't get buried in an Episcopal church.

27 posted on 09/06/2005 3:44:41 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: MeanWestTexan

You've got to be kidding, right? National Cathedral is as liberal, pro-homo, PC, left-wing, pantheistic Piskie as they come.

The conservative Anglican movement in this country is still small and struggling to get off the ground. If you have evidence to the contrary that would lead you to believe they might have captured the Washington National Cathedral, why do tell.


28 posted on 09/06/2005 3:45:06 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for New Orleans.)
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To: siunevada

Think of Bill as an honorary Catholic.


30 posted on 09/06/2005 3:45:55 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Tall_Texan
I'm protestant but I wouldn't be upset at having my funeral at a Catholic Chrurch. I need all the help I can get, especially at that point in my life. ;)

Have your funeral in a Catholic Church, have a Rabbi perform it. Cover all the bases!

31 posted on 09/06/2005 3:47:58 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: johnb838

"You've got to be kidding, right?"

About what? Go read my post. Slowly.


32 posted on 09/06/2005 3:49:18 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A good friend helps you move. A great friend helps you move a body.)
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To: Coleus

"The dead don't have a religion"


33 posted on 09/06/2005 3:50:35 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: CondorFlight

A few years ago in a city near me, a neighborhood's residents were up in arms because the city wanted to place a home for mentally challenged adults in their neighborhood.

Their city councilman, who also lived in the neighborhood blasted them at a council meeting, telling them "It is my belief that these folks have a free pass to heaven. You had all better hope that they aren't on the zoning committee when you get there."


35 posted on 09/06/2005 3:55:13 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Coleus
What's the problem? We've got lots of other religions, including pagans, worshipping here in Los Angeles in the cathedral.
36 posted on 09/06/2005 4:23:01 PM PDT by Deo volente (Holy Father, we beg you, please give us good bishops here in America!)
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To: Deo volente

Ugh, that is just sick.


37 posted on 09/06/2005 4:32:11 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: Deo volente

My goodness: that picture looks like something out of a very bad episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation."


38 posted on 09/06/2005 5:15:24 PM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: sine_nomine

If we cannot believe the same thing, then let us disbelief the same thing KINDA LIKE "THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY CHRISTIAN BROTHER" (or words to that effect)


39 posted on 09/06/2005 5:22:51 PM PDT by aumrl (W needs & appreciates our prayers)
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To: keithtoo
No nailing of Theses on the front door please.

ROFL! You have a deal. But we will leave some decent hymn books in the collection plate.

Seriously, it's nice of the Catholic Church to do this.

Actually, many churches, including Protestant, loan out their facilities to people of other faiths. You don't hear much about it because it would be catching the Christians in acts of tolerance, and we just can't have that, now, can we?

40 posted on 09/06/2005 5:23:45 PM PDT by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: warsaw44

From what I read, he won't be getting a Catholic funeral, he'll be getting a Lutheran funeral in a Catholic church. So maybe some Episcopals will go Lutheran.


41 posted on 09/06/2005 5:35:04 PM PDT by wimpycat (Hyperbole is the opiate of the activist wacko.)
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To: Oystir

"Why not the National Cathedral?"

Good question. I hate sounding a like a religious prude, but I am an old school Catholic. The CJ was a great judge. But he was Protestant. The National Cathedral is a Protestant church. Go there.


42 posted on 09/06/2005 5:39:39 PM PDT by jec1ny (Adjutorium nostrum in nomine Domine Qui fecit caelum et terram.)
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To: CondorFlight

You are too funny! :)


43 posted on 09/06/2005 5:46:54 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for our country than anyone can ever imagine. He is solid as a rock)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Very ECUSA!!! The National Cathedral is among the worst.


44 posted on 09/06/2005 5:47:36 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Motherbear

Now that I come to think about it, the Episcopalians are in "Full Concordance" with the liberal group of the Lutherans, I can't remember which one that is. Their priests can say mass in the Lutheran's churches and vice versa. This happened about five years ago to address areas like Minnesota where there are many Lutherans and few Piskies and other places where there are many Piskies and few Lutherans.


45 posted on 09/06/2005 6:02:17 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for New Orleans.)
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To: keithtoo

Aww, Shucks! How about stapling a shortened list, instead?


46 posted on 09/06/2005 6:04:39 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I'm sorry to sound disbelieving. I guess that was a inappropriate response. But I WISH the AAC was more prevalent. I don't even think there is one here in Houston, though I know of a small one in Richmond, about 45 minutes away.


47 posted on 09/06/2005 6:04:41 PM PDT by johnb838 (Pray for New Orleans.)
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To: NYer

ELCA


48 posted on 09/06/2005 6:05:15 PM PDT by Redleg Duke (BOHICA!)
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To: jec1ny
The National Cathedral, while a nice historic scenic building, is home to a liberal Episcopalian denomination (as noted above). There's no reason to buy a conservative Lutheran there.

That said, as a Catholic I find it strange that they'd have a funeral from Rehnquist at a Catholic church. Surely there is a Lutheran church in D.C. large enough to accommodate the funeral of a high-ranking government official.

49 posted on 09/06/2005 6:05:37 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Find out the TRUTH about the Chicago Democrat Machine's "Best Friend" in the GOP : www.nolahood.com)
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To: Coleus

Well, there's Lutheran and then there's LUTHERAN. They have nothing in common except the name.


50 posted on 09/06/2005 6:07:40 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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