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New Orleans: A Wakeup Call For California
gun news daily ^ | September 2, 2005 | Ralph Weller

Posted on 09/06/2005 7:39:52 PM PDT by kerryusama04

We were awakened this morning by news out of New Orleans, five days after the devastating hurricane passed through the city, that the city is still plunged in darkness and most of it is remains flooded. But, that wasn't any different from the day before. What was different was the news that police officers are walking off the job, gunshots are common throughout the city and fires are beginning to erupt at various locations. Gangs of 7-10 men, both armed and unarmed, are roaming the city killing and stealing, some out of pure instinct to survive, some to take advantage of the situation. This is happening in a city that had advance notice of an impending disaster and 80% left for safety. The other 20% are now trying to survive.

In California a major earthquake would make the scope and scale of what happened in New Orleans seem like a minor incident. There obviously would be no warnings, and the area devastated would be at least 10 times that of New Orleans affecting as many as 10 million people or more.

The lessons learned from New Orleans are:

1. Keep enough food and water to last for a minimum of one month.

2. Keep a lot of flashlights and batteries around along with a couple of portable radios. Keep a well stock first aid kit as well. Keep a portable stove for cooking and boiling water.

3. Own guns and plenty of ammunition. Know how to use them and that includes everyone in your family old enough to handle a firearm.

4. Be prepared to use your firearms in defense of your life and the lives of your family members and neighbors.

5. Share what you can with your neighbors and form a neighborhood security team to keep unwanted people out until government authorities have secured the area.

6. When politicians tell you that only law enforcement and police should own guns in today's "modern society", tell them to go to hell... or New Orleans. There's no difference between either at this point in time.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; secondammendment
Sorry if this has been posted before. I searched the title.
1 posted on 09/06/2005 7:39:54 PM PDT by kerryusama04
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To: Joe Brower; Mr. Mojo

ping


2 posted on 09/06/2005 7:41:28 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (The UN wants our guns so they can rape our children and steal our money)
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To: kerryusama04
In California a major earthquake would make the scope and scale of what happened in New Orleans seem like a minor incident. There obviously would be no warnings, and the area devastated would be at least 10 times that of New Orleans affecting as many as 10 million people or more.

Your post is not lost on those of us Californians who are prepared.

3 posted on 09/06/2005 7:43:52 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: kerryusama04

LA's & Sin Freaksicko's response?

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4 posted on 09/06/2005 7:44:46 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: afnamvet
Your post is not lost on those of us Californians who are prepared.

As someone else said, bring it on.

I'd like to say how prepared we are, but I think I'll avoid the details....

5 posted on 09/06/2005 7:46:18 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: afnamvet

Nice reminder - just counted my ammo - only 250 rounds of 9mm and forget where I put the 7.92 for the Mauser. ;-)


6 posted on 09/06/2005 7:54:15 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: kerryusama04

Well if it was, thanks for reposting it. Food and water for one month, vs 3-5 days. That will have to include MRE's. If one has to leave and carry supplies, water will be heavy enough, never mind cans of soup and spaghetti.


7 posted on 09/06/2005 7:55:22 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: Black Tooth

Roger that.


8 posted on 09/06/2005 7:56:40 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: kerryusama04

The lefties are pushing the nanny state, but we know they can't protect us.

It's no skin off their nose if some thug kills you. Instead, it's a great excuse for them to ask for more laws, taxes and government powers.


9 posted on 09/06/2005 7:56:49 PM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: kerryusama04

The powers that be tell us it's a matter of when, not if, San Francisco will be hit with "the big one". So if it happens next week, will it be Bush's fault?

What is California doing about it to make sure it doesn't happen? And when will people realize that Mother Nature happens, the feds do the best they can and people had better take care of themselves.


10 posted on 09/06/2005 7:57:01 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: kerryusama04
In California a major earthquake would make the scope and scale of what happened in New Orleans seem like a minor incident.

Not to minimize the message to be prepared, but, the above quote is nonsense.

Hurricanes and floods are much worse than earthquakes and effect much larger areas.

11 posted on 09/06/2005 7:57:11 PM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: glorgau

I would advise you are a little low on 9MM. ; )


12 posted on 09/06/2005 7:58:11 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: glorgau
Unfortunately, I have to leave the good stuff at my mother's place due to Kalifornicate's unconstitutional behavior. But I do have enough to reach out and touch anyone that needs it.

Hulkster
13 posted on 09/06/2005 8:01:01 PM PDT by IncredibleHulk (For some, it is better to live in Hell ...)
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To: Peach
And when will people realize that Mother Nature happens, the feds do the best they can

You're joking right?

No person in their right mind would ever consider getting any relief from the Feds when it's needed. I think that has been broadcasted loud and clear.

If you can't fend for yourself, and your family, you're real dead. Period!

14 posted on 09/06/2005 8:04:59 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: tallhappy
Hurricanes and floods are much worse than earthquakes and effect much larger areas

I think the last two weeks have demonstrated that in a way, even the ignorant can see.

15 posted on 09/06/2005 8:07:59 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: TheSpottedOwl

I find it unbelievable that the folks of New Orleans couldn't take care of themselves for 5 minutes let alone 5 days. And then they blame Presidente Bush??? Even prior to Katrina, W had a lot on his plate w/o having to worry about the city of New Orleans on a daily basis.


16 posted on 09/06/2005 8:08:16 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (The UN wants our guns so they can rape our children and steal our money)
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To: kerryusama04

Lots of 22LR...

Always use it for barter when it gets dicey....

Get a good quality water filter...like a Big Berkey

Get a volcano stove...

Lots of unscented chlorine bleach...


17 posted on 09/06/2005 8:13:30 PM PDT by joesnuffy (A bible that is falling apart, usually belongs to someone who isn't - Spurgeon)
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To: kerryusama04
"Share what you can with your neighbors"

What kind of advice is that? Haven;t you seen the posts? Price gougers are heroes to some FReepers
18 posted on 09/06/2005 8:18:46 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative (http://unhyphenatedconservative.blogspot.com/)
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To: kerryusama04

My family had the same sentiment this week. We live in the mountains, but this was a wake up call. We are on our own for a while whether the disaster is anticipated (approaching storm) or not (earthquake)

We do not own a firearm, but we do have a supply of food and water.

How hard is it to navigate current laws in order to get a firearm?(Waiting period, registration, safety and firing lessons mandated by the state) or should we just 'ask around' on saturday at the local flea market?


19 posted on 09/06/2005 8:21:34 PM PDT by ZOTnot ('We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good'--Hillary, 6/28/2004.)
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To: U.H. Conservative
Share what you can with your neighbors

HA!

My neighbors in Cal could hold off any medium sized police department or rioters for days. They get none of mine. I don't know about the rest of the country, but here, people have been jaded, as I have. Protect yourself and your own, or face the brutal, ugly consequences.

20 posted on 09/06/2005 8:23:43 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: afnamvet
Ypu are correct but I was just thinking about a new boat lift like the last one. Their monsters have been moved into places all over. Crime is going up. Expect it.
21 posted on 09/06/2005 8:27:30 PM PDT by Domangart (1st Flt, Det 90 SOS 71-72)
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To: Black Tooth

LOL. What about a a medium sized police department of rioters? I can see the movie now: Assault By Precinct 13.


22 posted on 09/06/2005 8:32:11 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative (http://unhyphenatedconservative.blogspot.com/)
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To: kerryusama04

BTTT


23 posted on 09/06/2005 8:34:17 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: U.H. Conservative

Glad someone caught that.


24 posted on 09/06/2005 8:34:31 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Black Tooth
Where are you in Cali? SAn Diego here.
25 posted on 09/06/2005 8:37:32 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative (http://unhyphenatedconservative.blogspot.com/)
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To: U.H. Conservative

Lets just say I'm in So. Cal.

Don't want to give my location away, if you know what I mean. LOL


26 posted on 09/06/2005 8:38:49 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: kerryusama04

I always urge people to do what I do, any time I empty a plastic container, be it OJ, or Gatorade, or whatever, I rinse it and fill it with water. And lots of times you can find at the supermarket, Mac and Cheese, or those dried Fettucine type meals pretty cheap, stock up on enough to last two weeks or so in a plastic bin.
It was weird, because a few years back, I got the unpleasant feeling that I should start stocking up on stuff... I kid you not... one week before 9/11.


27 posted on 09/06/2005 8:40:19 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: afnamvet
Considering the lifespan of those of us in our 40s... we'll be long gone before the Big One arrives here.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
28 posted on 09/06/2005 8:40:33 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ZOTnot
It depends on where you live. I live in Missouri and can walk into a gun shop, sporting goods store, or Wal Mart and walk out with a rifle or shotgun with only an FBI background check that the cashier does when you buy it. A pistol is another story. I have to get a permit from my sherriff and pass an FBI background check to buy a pistol. Some states have waiting periods and some regulate how many bullets a firearm can hold.

Buying a gun is just the beginning, though. You have to learn how to use it, clean it, and store it.

29 posted on 09/06/2005 8:49:47 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (The UN wants our guns so they can rape our children and steal our money)
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To: Black Tooth

Dang. And here I thought I had a line on your secret stash.

Darned crafty Black Tooth. Foiled again.


30 posted on 09/06/2005 8:56:26 PM PDT by U.H. Conservative (http://unhyphenatedconservative.blogspot.com/)
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To: kerryusama04
California has one of the best EMS systems in the country. However, in a widespread emergency where panic erupts, all bets are off.

We need to watch and learn from Katrina.

31 posted on 09/06/2005 9:05:42 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: goldstategop
And those of us in our late 50's .
32 posted on 09/06/2005 9:09:40 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: kerryusama04

In 2000, I read the three most likely disasters in the new millennium would be a terrorist attack in NYC, a huge flood in NO, and a catastrophic earthquake in SF. Local authorities should definitely lead preparation efforts in SF and LA.


33 posted on 09/06/2005 10:45:13 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: kerryusama04

There's so much fun stuff going on in CA, that I'm not at all familiar with LA. Of course everyone knows that most of the politicians out there are corrupt.

I am surprised at the residents, though. Many got out while there was still time, but what about the rest? Is it distrust of government and fellow citizens? I don't want to generalize here, but some of the poorer folks are just not educated to be self reliant. Were these warnings broadcast on the local radio stations? I doubt they watch the Weather Channel on cable tv.

I don't think the residents themselves blame President Bush. OTOH, they could be made to blame him, with the usual disinformation. How much do they know about hierarchy and protocol between local, state, and Federal government? I didn't know as much as I do now, but the local government and the state failed these people. I don't think the poor can grasp the concept that ultimately you are responsible for you and your loved ones.

Which brings up something I forgot about. TV stations had PSA's telling residents that they would be cited if they left their pets behind. But, the shelters won't take pets. Ugh, what a mess : (


34 posted on 09/07/2005 1:37:08 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: djf
It was weird, because a few years back, I got the unpleasant feeling that I should start stocking up on stuff... I kid you not... one week before 9/11.

Let us know if you get that feeling again, ok?

35 posted on 09/07/2005 1:51:36 AM PDT by Screaming_Gerbil (Let's Roll...)
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To: Black Tooth
I'd like to say how prepared we are, but I think I'll avoid the details....

Of whom are you speaking about being prepared?


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.

36 posted on 09/07/2005 3:07:42 AM PDT by rdb3 (I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me. --Philippians 4:13)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I don't think the residents themselves blame President Bush. OTOH, they could be made to blame him, with the usual disinformation.

Saw an interview on 'A Current Affair' last night. There were showing a family checking out their home after they evacuated. They were upset and then very distraught. It was just about a total loss due to flooding. The mother of three then vented and basically stated that they have been spending money on the levee's for years. She stated basically that the money was pilfered by the corrupt politicians within Louisiana. That was from an actual resident. They know their situation better then the rest of the country.

Concerning California, after having lived in Los Angeles for both the LA Riots and the Northridge earthquake, I would take an earthquake anytime. Very little looting reported after the quake, but that was not the Big One. Power was restored quickly. It could easily get much worse though in an 8.0 on the San Andreas. If power is out for more then a couple of days, looting and riots will probably break out. Somehow though I don't think we will see Arnold Flying over Los Angeles, while crying into the camera for Stephanopolus. He performed very good during that nasty fire season we had. Visited with quite a few of the fireman.

37 posted on 09/07/2005 3:18:40 AM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

I think the more educated residents of NO, know exactly how corrupt their politicians are. I'm worried about the folks who either don't know, or know and don't care.

The L.A. riots were insane. MSM showed edited video of Rodney King being subdued. We happened to catch it live. That guy was f*ckered up. I believe later it was learned that he was high on PCP. JJ had to show up and fan the flames. Do you remember the Korean business owners up on their roofs with assault rifles? That's what you have to do.

That's what businesses and citizens need to remember in times of crisis. An earthquake may destroy your home, but you won't have to swim through toxic waste, either. The last Northridge quake was the worst one I can recall. The only thing citizens can do is try and store enough provisions, just in case. Due to space, sometimes that isn't possible. I'm sitting on the fence, regarding Ahhhhnold, but I know he wouldn't fold in the event of an emergency. In fact, I'll be he's been reviewing disaster preparedness plans for every region of CA. Every governor should make sure that each mayor of each city, has a plan and knows the protocol. Starting with Villagairosa.


38 posted on 09/07/2005 3:58:54 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: ZOTnot
Go look at packing.org or the nra web site for your current state laws.

If stuff happens, it would be a good idea to stash at least one firearm and a bunch of ammo for it in a good hiding place, in case the "authorities" decide to start confiscating guns to "maintain the peace"

39 posted on 09/07/2005 5:09:49 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: kerryusama04
Bush should call for an immediate forced evacuation of cities near any fault line. Or else get blamed for any deaths that occur during any future earthquake. (sarcasm)
40 posted on 09/07/2005 5:15:58 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: rdb3

See 14 and 20 for clues.


41 posted on 09/07/2005 7:15:33 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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