Posted on 09/06/2005 8:21:03 PM PDT by America First Libertarian
A landmark bill to legalize gay marriage passed the Assembly by a single vote Tuesday and now goes to Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has not said whether he will sign it.
The measure passed on a 41-to-35 votes, with no support from Republicans. The author of the bill, Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, worked desperately throughout the day to find the votes needed for passage.
The Senate approved AB849 last week, marking the first time a legislative body in the country to approve a bill legalizing same-sex marriage. But supporters had a harder time mustering support in the Assembly, where the bill had already failed once this year, falling four votes short.
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I guess CA is jealous that God gave so much attention to New Orleans.
All they're doing is setting up their own defeat for the next 2 to 4 years at least.
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If Schwarzenegger has three brain cells to rub together, he will veto this the right way, reversing his drastic collapse in public polls and paving the way to some chance of success in this fall's referenda and next year's election.
They disregarded the will of the people of California in a State wide referendum. The dumocrats pay no attention to what the people wan't. They just go ahead and play the game of dictators, and will find a willing court to back them up. And the slippery slope continues.
Hey, San Francisco, can you say, "He took half of all my stuff and I have to pay him alimony!?!?!?!"
I knew you could.
LMAO!! California.
---Well they are doing it the right way.---
What do you mean? The people voted overwhelmingly against gay marriage a few years back in a referendum. The legislature is spitting in their eye!
Not just a big laugh over this, think what the Mexicans are going to do to these guys when they take over the place.
It failed once and passed by one vote this time.
He should've announced that he'd veto it the first time it was brought up, especially if the voters rejected it in a statewide referendum.
America is not a democracy, 80%-90% opposed interracial marriage 45 years ago, and 35% still do, it was decided by the legislatures (coincidently this is something the opposition was complaining about, then when it happens it has to be done by the people, not everything deserves to be an initiative.
This is a state issue, if the voters of california disagree, the democrats will have to answer to them, and will be run out of office.
Who is "they" and what are they doing the right way?
---America is not a democracy, 80%-90% opposed interracial marriage 45 years ago---
We didn't have a referendum on it back then. This wasn't some poll. The people voted in an legitimate election!
"Well they are doing it the right way."
Good point. I can't for the life of me figure out why this is such a pressing issue. I mean really, are gays that powerful in California? Anyway, I guess those voting for this bill feel they're doing the right thing regardless of the political peril. There's a phrase for that but it escapes me... oh ya, I got it I think... is it... personal courage?
Ditto calcowgirl's question.....
waiting....
---There's a phrase for that but it escapes me... oh ya, I got it I think... is it... personal courage?---
The California legislature? Too funny!
There sure are a lot of pro-gay marriage newbies on this site lately.
I hope the everybody is paying attention to this. THERE ARE YOUR DEMOCRATS! Vote for one of them; vote for them all!
e-mail sent to the governor bump
1.) California (or the states)
2.) And acting via the legislature, holding themselves accountable to voters.
I make no bones about being a lover of liberty and supporting gay marriage, as long as religious institutions aren't forced to perform or recognize them, it is a win-win situation. I care about Americans, and race, religion, income, sexual orientation etc, mean nothing to me. As long as one does not initiate force or transgression against another citizen, I could note care any less what they do or how they live.
"The California legislature? Too funny!"
What then? Personal gain? I'm just wondering why.
Aren't there?
They fit in quite nicely with the BC crowd...
You obviously don't have children, or if you do, you don't mind that they're being fed an agenda that will NOT be beneficial to their long-term well being.
gay marriage is an oxymoron. I'm ashamed to live in california.
gay marriage is an oxymoron. I'm ashamed to live in california.
I have children, and I instill in them a sense of tolerance, and a love for liberty. They aren't being fed an agenda, I do what so many parents seem to be unwilling to do--Parent. Another example is the fact I have cable, and many violent movies, but they know what they are allowed to watch, and what they are not allowed to, I don't need any liberal or conservative to parent my child, I take care of that.
I've instilled that same sense in my kids AND grandson...but once they're out of your sight, away from YOUR influence, ie a classroom....ALL that you've taught them can VERY WELL be shoved aside.
And you won't be able to do squat.
It may be that you don't care about this issue, but someday, something equally disgusting to you WILL happen.
The gay lifestyle is unnatural, men have a shorter lifespan, and there is NOTHING that they can't do now that this stupid bill passing will accomplish. Think about it.
I'm NOT angry with you, not at all. Please don't read it that way. You're just wrong. That's all.
I'm a Gramma and carry far more "weight" than you do. Ha! ;)
Good job. I tried but kept getting an error message indicating his website was busy. (I'll try again later).
I did send a nasty message to my not-so-esteemed State Senator yesterday.
English as a second language?
You sure offer some food for thought.
I have a gut feeling that the Mexicans may end up not fully appreciating the Euro-style secular socialism, the belittlement of the traditional family unit, and the amoral free-for-all that the Democrats are foisting on California (and WANT to foist on the entire nation).
When the time comes that the productive white middle class has mostly vacated California and the place is 70% Mexican, there could well be a sea change in California politics. Heck, the Mexicans may end up being more "Republican" than today's California "Republicans" are. Like the Cubans in Florida.
I suppose you are also a 'lover' of NAMBLA, bestiality, adultery, and other various sexual unions that are contrary to what is normally accepted in society.
Don't kid yourself. A society that turns its back on 'right and wrong' and builds its foundation on shifting sands will not stand.
Hello!????
The legislature represents the voters--the voters already voiced their preference. This is an out and out assault on the people of California by a group of leftist single-issue GLBT activist legislators who have violated their oath of office by ignoring Proposition 22.
I hear ya!
Indeed at this point I am only a father. Once my children are adults and on thier own (they are allowed to live with me as long as they wish) then it is their life to live. I am giving them the essentials, and they have to be freethinkers. I don't want robots for children, they will find their own way, and may even reject the values of liberty, as adults it is their decision.
Thier is no scientific evidence to prove gay men have a shorter lifespan because they are gay. Cameron's study has been widely discredited. And not all gay men are rabid and sex crazed. I know many gays, not of them are effeminate, a few have children, gay is just one aspect of their life.
Their is a sociological aspect to problems in the gay community, sadly the sucide rate amongst teens, due to their parents disowning them, and society telling them they are unnatural, sick, sinners, or flawed because of who they natually are. I'm not about that, I am about liberty, and unity amongst Americans.
They legislature is largely made up of lackeys for the leftist ideologues that are concentrated in many parts of the state and voting for this atrocity will get them big dollars from their political paymasters. Those dollars will assure their reelection and continued power.
If they had an once of decency they'd put this up for a statewide referendum, but of course they good never get the people to pass it in a statewide vote. The little rats are secure in their districts though if they can get enough cash.
I consider myself a political refugee from California and I've come to look on those Democrat politicos much the way refugees from Communist countries look upon their ex-commissars.
They're a bunch of vampires, bleeding that state dry of wealth, decency, and freedom.
In MY world it sure 'nuf does!
The average lifespan of a gay man is 42 years. And it is scientific, well known in the medical field.
I am not a lover of NAMBLA, children are not adults.
Beastiality, I reject it because an animal is not human.
Adultry is none of my business.
You have offered no example that wasn't offered years ago in the interracial marriage debate, remember it was illegal for centuries.
sex with prepubescents, animals and adultury have nothing to do with two adults entering into a contract.
Don't forget polygamy and arranged marriage was once a norm, do you support polygamy and arranged marriages?
I still can't believe people are regurgitating this myth. Paul Cameron's "study" has been debunked over and over again, all he did was, at the height of the aids epidemic, was look at obituaries, this is not research this is called junk science.
Sheesh! :)
If you knew my kids, as young kids, pre-teens, teens, and now adults, you'd be laughing your head off in (not intentionally) implying that they're robots without the ability to think for themselves.
LOL!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO boy oh boy.
sadly the sucide rate amongst teens, due to their parents disowning them, and society telling them they are unnatural, sick, sinners, or flawed because of who they natually are
THIS is a bunch of hooey. Society has TAUGHT them to be "gay".
Gramma Speaketh. Once again, I'm right, you're a wonderful person with good intentions, but wrong.
No they are NOT doing it the right way.
The right was was already DONE! the people voted to NOT have homosexual marriage.
This is 100% in defiance of the will of the people. This IS the wrong way.
Sorry not a myth. Insurance statistic.
Right. You probably already know the stats: Average life span for a married man ~75 yrs, for a divorced man 59 yrs, and for a gay man (WITHOUT AIDS) is 42 yrs. If he has AIDS, it is 40 yrs.
If there was an illness that caused women to have a shortened life span of 42 yrs, there would be mandatory postage stamps by all govt offices to "stamp" it all. We'd never hear the end of it. But since it involves Gay men, the liberals don't seem to care that they die young. I have yet to hear a liberal say they would like a gay person to go straight so they could live longer.
Interracial marriage is a red herring. There has always been interracial marriage. I suspect nineteenth and early twentieth century America is one of the few places it has been illegal. Where has gay marriage ever been the norm?
If arnold signs this bill, the chance of a major earthquake will jump to 100%.
They claim they CAN'T go straight. What's the name of that Christian organization that helps people living that lifestyle...to turn around? I can't remember...ANYWAY, the gay (darn I hate that word) community is HORRIBLY upset with that group.
Why?
Love in Action?
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