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'DOCS IN SOCKS' SANDY BERGER RAPPED (feds recommend one year's probation and community service)
NY Post ^ | 9/07/05 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 09/07/2005 2:48:15 PM PDT by Libloather

'DOCS IN SOCKS' BERGER RAPPED
By DEBORAH ORIN
September 7, 2005

WASHINGTON — The feds yesterday recommended that former Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger get at least a year's probation and do community service — but no jail time — for stealing top-secret memos and lying about it.

Berger pleaded guilty last April to taking the documents — and reportedly hiding them in his pants and socks — from the National Archives while vetting them to refresh his memory before testifying before the 9/11 commission.

He's to be sentenced tomorrow.

The memos were versions of a report that Berger ordered on the millennium bombing plot. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berger; classified; clinton; community; docs; documents; feds; ll; millenniumplot; nara; one; perp; probation; rapped; rats; recommend; sandy; sandyberger; sentencing; service; socks; theft; year
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The perp and his tools...


1 posted on 09/07/2005 2:48:26 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Out-freakin'-rageous.

Berger should do time. Serious time.


2 posted on 09/07/2005 2:49:22 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Looters: undocumented consumers || Looting: purchases with indefinite deferred payment plans)
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To: Keith in Iowa

George Washinton would have dispatched him on the spot.


3 posted on 09/07/2005 2:51:16 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: Libloather

American justice --- just-us.


4 posted on 09/07/2005 2:51:24 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" -Pope Urban II, 1097AD)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Berger should do time. Serious time.

...especially since it is, prima facie, obstruction of justice...

5 posted on 09/07/2005 2:52:36 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: Libloather
How long a sentence would any of us get for theft and destruction of classified federal documents? Anyone, anyone, Buhler?
6 posted on 09/07/2005 2:52:49 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Berger should do time. Serious time.

There were people here, claiming to be “in the know” that assured that the judge wouldn’t accept whatever-plea he made and that he’d be punished suitably.

It has been a long time and most have forgotten, I guess. And, of course, there are bigger events in the news nowadays…

7 posted on 09/07/2005 2:52:56 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: Libloather

I'm lighting a candle in hope that the Judge throws out the U.S Attorney's recommendation.


8 posted on 09/07/2005 2:53:54 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Libloather
and do community service

Clean up New Orleans with a toothbrush ... and not one of those fancy electric ones.

I still want to know what documents he destroyed and why he destroyed those copies of them. Who had what notes written in the margins and who told him to destroy those documents?

9 posted on 09/07/2005 2:54:31 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (We need a strict constructionist - not someone who plays shadow puppet theatre with the Constitution)
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To: Libloather

Damn...I thought the headline said this Clintonite was "raped", and I was thinking, "Wow, poetic justice does happen"!


10 posted on 09/07/2005 2:54:45 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Libloather
"... and they think we're enemies...hehehe!"


11 posted on 09/07/2005 2:55:23 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: popdonnelly

You might want to light a torch..aint gonna happen. The game is rigged. Time for a grassroots movement to take back the ole country im afraid.


12 posted on 09/07/2005 2:55:52 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanterns..with a smiley face!)
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To: Who dat?

There were also people here suggesting that he could be a fount of information about his real purpose and all he really took. They argued that his cooperation would influence his sentencing and that was why the sentencing was so delayed. I have no idea whether they were right.


13 posted on 09/07/2005 2:56:14 PM PDT by maryz
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To: popdonnelly

Well .. if the judge is a democrat - I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting for the judge to throw anything out.


14 posted on 09/07/2005 2:57:12 PM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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To: Libloather
Bet it was the Able Danger ? Only slightly sarcastic.
15 posted on 09/07/2005 2:57:19 PM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zat˘ichi: I don't see much)
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To: Keith in Iowa

The fix is in once again. And they wonder why we've had it with Washington.


16 posted on 09/07/2005 2:58:09 PM PDT by x1stcav (Hooahh!)
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To: Libloather
One more thing.

You don't "surrender your security clearance".

DSS yanks it away from you like a stolen piece of candy from a toddler.

And once they've done that, there's almost never any getting it back.

17 posted on 09/07/2005 2:59:38 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: Libloather
Far more amazing than the non-execution of Berger, and the lack of even a token amount of jail time, is the fact that he will REGAIN his national security clearance in three years!!!

He'll need bigger socks next time he's allowed access to our nation's most classified documents. If Hillary's the president, he can just show up with a dump truck for his haul.

18 posted on 09/07/2005 3:00:13 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Libloather

Dang. I thought that the headline read "Sander Berger Raped".

Oh, well.


19 posted on 09/07/2005 3:00:21 PM PDT by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: George Smiley

Oh, a political flak like Burglar would get it back by executive order of some dim.


20 posted on 09/07/2005 3:01:58 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (A good friend helps you move. A great friend helps you move a body.)
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To: Libloather
The feds yesterday recommended that former Clinton National Security Adviser Sandy Berger get at least a year's probation and do community service — but no jail time — for stealing top-secret memos and lying about it.

How many years of hard time do you suppose you or I would get for the same offence?

21 posted on 09/07/2005 3:03:11 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Libloather

What would you or I get if we stole top-secret government documents? No wonder citizens have very little respect left for our corrupt government.


22 posted on 09/07/2005 3:03:29 PM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: George Smiley
One more thing. You don't "surrender your security clearance". DSS yanks it away from you like a stolen piece of candy from a toddler. And once they've done that, there's almost never any getting it back.

Berger's plea deal calls for a 3-year suspension of his security clearance.

He will get it back in 2008.

23 posted on 09/07/2005 3:04:10 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Libloather
What an outrage..........but just SOP for democrat lawbreakers in DC.
Just wait til the GOP is in charge......................< /sarcasm >
24 posted on 09/07/2005 3:04:56 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: Libloather
What had it got in its pocketses?
25 posted on 09/07/2005 3:05:35 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Libloather

Ya know, if it were anyone else they'd have found him in a park with a note safety pinned to his socks.


26 posted on 09/07/2005 3:05:46 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: Libloather

Are we in Louisiana or something?

Damn.


27 posted on 09/07/2005 3:07:54 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: popdonnelly

yup and a BIG UBetcha , no jailtime is an outrage,we all know something quite incriminating is gone forever and Sir Edmund Hillary Clinton slips through again


28 posted on 09/07/2005 3:08:43 PM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: Libloather

So what does this tell the next person who wants to purge documents from the Archives? No sweat, go for it!


29 posted on 09/07/2005 3:10:32 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: Libloather

The powerful protect the powerful. Not a big surprise.


30 posted on 09/07/2005 3:10:41 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Libloather
Nothing to see here folks....move along....hey citizen, did you hear what I said??? move along now...
31 posted on 09/07/2005 3:10:52 PM PDT by The SISU kid (Politicians are like Slinkies. Good for nothing. But you smile when you push them down the stairs)
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To: kittymyrib
Have a look at 18 USC 793.

Don't be put off with the intent stuff at the beginning. Look at (d) and (e).

32 posted on 09/07/2005 3:11:27 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: Libloather

Sandy Berger has to know that the only safe place for him to be for the Clintons is in his grave. I don't see this guy making it to 2007.


33 posted on 09/07/2005 3:11:51 PM PDT by hflynn ( Soros wouldn't make any sense even if he spelled his name backwards)
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To: Libloather
The feds

The Feds is a pretty loose term - I want to know WHO!!!

34 posted on 09/07/2005 3:12:39 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: maryz
There were also people here suggesting that he could be a fount of information about his real purpose and all he really took. They argued that his cooperation would influence his sentencing and that was why the sentencing was so delayed. I have no idea whether they were right.

Nobody is "fingering" anybody.....

Move along.....

Nothing to see here.....

This was all too predictable.

We are nothing but a bunch of Stepford citizens......

And BIG GOB'ment treats us like it too.....

35 posted on 09/07/2005 3:13:09 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I give up........)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Is he disbarred?


36 posted on 09/07/2005 3:13:49 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Alissa

I'm assuming it means the misnamed Justice Department.


37 posted on 09/07/2005 3:14:13 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: x1stcav
"The fix is in once again. And they wonder why we've had it with Washington."

Distrust of the federal government seems to be reaching levels even the crap weasels in Washington can understand.

This travesty is but one of many reasons for that distrust.

38 posted on 09/07/2005 3:15:27 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Libloather

I hope the community service part includes ritual suicide. He should be hung like the traitor he is.


39 posted on 09/07/2005 3:16:26 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Libloather
IBBA!

(In Before Bushie Apologists!)

40 posted on 09/07/2005 3:16:52 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Libloather
So, does this mean anyone can go into the National Archives and take things with only the threat of probation hanging over them? I bet there are lots of neat stuff that would fetch a good price on ebay.... or the Chinese Embassy.
41 posted on 09/07/2005 3:18:36 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Libloather
One year of probation. For compartmented information.

Expect to hear from the Pollard supporters. And they'll be right.

42 posted on 09/07/2005 3:18:59 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: MamaLucci

That would be the Just Us Department.


43 posted on 09/07/2005 3:21:20 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: MamaLucci
the misnamed Justice Department.


44 posted on 09/07/2005 3:21:47 PM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: MamaLucci
Then Justice needs some major Freeping. Here's their contact site: http://www.usdoj.gov/contact-us.html
45 posted on 09/07/2005 3:22:37 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: thoughtomator

"I hope the community service part includes ritual suicide. He should be hung like the traitor he is."

Any Non-Royal would be doing hard time for this. As far as community service goes, the restrooms in the Superdome need a good scrubbing.


46 posted on 09/07/2005 3:23:58 PM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: griswold3
Told you.....

No jail time.....

Barely a slap on the wrist.....

47 posted on 09/07/2005 3:26:03 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I give up........)
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To: longshadow

bttt


48 posted on 09/07/2005 3:29:16 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Alissa

Agreed....thanks for the link.


49 posted on 09/07/2005 3:35:40 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: savedbygrace
Just Us Department.

;) Bingo.

50 posted on 09/07/2005 3:37:14 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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