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Dean: Race Played a Role in Katrina Deaths
newsmax.com ^ | Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2005 11:00 p.m. EDT

Posted on 09/07/2005 8:41:30 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Wednesday, Sept. 7, 2005 11:00 p.m. EDT Dean: Race Played a Role in Katrina Deaths

Race was a factor in the death toll from Hurricane Katrina, Howard Dean told members of the National Baptist Convention of America on Wednesday at the group's annual meeting.

Dean, chairman of the Democratic party, made the comments to the Baptists' Political and Social Justice Commission. The Baptist Convention, with an estimated 3.5 million members, is one of the largest black religious groups in the country. "We must ... come to terms with the ugly truth that skin color, age and economics played a deadly role in who survived and who did not," Dean said.

Dean said Americans have a moral responsibility to not ignore the devastating damage caused by Hurricane Katrina when it struck the Gulf Coast.

The former presidential candidate said the government will be judged by how it treats the old, the young and the poor.

"People are poor in different parts of the country. They are not refugees. They are Americans," he said.

Dean said that instead of considering proposed estate tax breaks, the Senate should channel the money into disaster relief.

"Shall we give that to the wealthiest people in the country, or should we rebuild New Orleans?" Dean said.

Dean also urged the government to exempt victims of Hurricane Katrina from a stricter new bankruptcy law for one year.

Ken Mehlman, Dean's counterpart at the Republican National Committee, said he hoped Dean "will match his rhetoric with his support for reforms that replace bureaucracy and entitlement with hope and opportunity."

Stephen J. Thurston, president of the Baptist Convention, said there was a lack of response and sensitivity by the government following the Gulf Coast disaster.


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1 posted on 09/07/2005 8:41:31 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

Why wasn't Dr. Dean down in NOLA assisting the relief effort like Frist?


2 posted on 09/07/2005 8:43:11 PM PDT by RWR8189 ( Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Well, if our National
Psychopath deems it so, that IT!!
....................:-)


3 posted on 09/07/2005 8:43:44 PM PDT by aworldtrader
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To: RWR8189

Dean couldn't find NO............


4 posted on 09/07/2005 8:44:24 PM PDT by aworldtrader
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To: InvisibleChurch

A refugee is someone who moves elsewhere to seek refuge.
Why is refugee a bad word?
Do we have to euphamize that away like all the other plain words of the based ...
A 'temporarily-housed American'?


5 posted on 09/07/2005 8:44:58 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Bill Frist and Howard Dean are both doctors.

Frist goes to Lois Armstrong airport and administers first aid.

Dean race bates and squeals like a stuck pig.

The differences between a politician and a politician who is also a leader couldn't be more clear.

6 posted on 09/07/2005 8:46:01 PM PDT by mrexitement
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To: aworldtrader
I've had it with him too.He's a royal jerk off. If the Dems had ANY brains they'd ship him out to points unknown. Personally I dont think any of these idiots believe in half the crap they say ( Maybe this nut does though ) It's cheap political theatrics
7 posted on 09/07/2005 8:46:33 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: aworldtrader

8 posted on 09/07/2005 8:47:24 PM PDT by traumer
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To: hoboken109
Compare and contrast:

Dr. Frist; Goes to MS as a physician to help in any way

Dr. Dean: Goes to MSM and issues DNC lies and talking points

Class vs. schmuck
9 posted on 09/07/2005 8:48:55 PM PDT by slapshot ("USAF- when you absolutely, positively need it delivered on target, on time, right away")
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To: InvisibleChurch
He's right: those people were living in a dangerous area without the resources to drive out or the gumption to walk, left waiting for the government to save them, because the Democratic Party that's run Louisiana since the stone age has targeted blacks, keeping them on the welfare plantation in exchange for their votes. They were left with no help and no idea of how to help themselves thanks to the lousy public schools, endless handouts and other life-destroying aspects of the welfare state created by liberals, who constantly preach that black Americans cannot possibly survive without it. So yes, race was indeed a factor.

Is that what you meant, Howard

10 posted on 09/07/2005 8:49:04 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: InvisibleChurch

11 posted on 09/07/2005 8:49:34 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: InvisibleChurch
All one has to do is look at Dean's Vermont--It's obvious race played a part there when he was the governor. There are 3 times as many blacks in my small town as there are in his entire state.

Maybe I missed it but I haven't seen the Vermont welcome wagon showing up in Houston or elsewhere offering 'poor folk' a ride and a life back in Vermont. Of course not too many spare rooms in Martha's Vineyard are being offered up to these folks either.

12 posted on 09/07/2005 8:53:01 PM PDT by DaBroasta (Attention people of color, 'rich white men (& women)' have controlled the democrat party since 1964)
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To: hoboken109

" It's cheap political theatrics"

Nuff said
BTTT


13 posted on 09/07/2005 8:53:50 PM PDT by aworldtrader
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To: slapshot

Raise Taxes Raise Taxes Raise Taxes


14 posted on 09/07/2005 8:55:19 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion they will give it to you.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

It time we stopped our contributions untill this kind of propaganda stops.


15 posted on 09/07/2005 8:58:48 PM PDT by oyez
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To: InvisibleChurch

Yeah, the hurricane looked around and said, "Let me see if I can find some black people."


16 posted on 09/07/2005 9:01:13 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: aworldtrader

where is Rev Al Sharpton ? He must be rehearsing his script all week .
MARK MY WORDS.Sharpton or Jackson will be DEMAMDING a Million Dollars reparation for black victims of the hurricane. I predict it first , here on FR. (Then you know that Jackson will find a way of relieving those same bros of some of that loot ) Gaurentee it will happen ..


17 posted on 09/07/2005 9:01:35 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: InvisibleChurch
Dean comes from a state that basically has no minorities and he had few if any working on his presidential campaign. The only minorities Howard Dean knew when growing up were the servants. Howard Dean, champion of the poor minorities. Yea, sure.

Speaking of taxes and whatnot Howard, if you had any sense you'd see that minorities have been jacked by people like you that support a RACIST income tax. Do away with the current tax system and allow everyone, especially minorities, to start and own their own businesses without having to deal with your crappy tax system. A system you have used to keep the minorities poor.

Oh, by the way Howard, you have beady little weasel eyes that are too close together. Based on that and the garbage you spew you are not the brightest bulb around.

18 posted on 09/07/2005 9:04:53 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (If fire fighters fight fire and crime fighters fight crime what do freedom fighters fight?)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Dean and the Rats will not be happy until civil war breaks out.


19 posted on 09/07/2005 9:05:27 PM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops and their Families)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Every time Dean opens his mouth the dems lose more votes. Keep on talking Mr. Dean!


20 posted on 09/07/2005 9:05:50 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: InvisibleChurch

21 posted on 09/07/2005 9:06:01 PM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: InvisibleChurch
Dean: Race Played a Role in Katrina Deaths

Well, that is what people are saying about Blanco denying food, water and sanitary needs to be brought in by the Red Cross. So, maybe Dean has a point for once.

22 posted on 09/07/2005 9:08:33 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Deetes

Im afraid you are right . The Dems have gone so so far off the hook at this point that they will not be happy until they destroy this country .I truely believe that .


23 posted on 09/07/2005 9:10:56 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: RWR8189
"Why wasn't Dr. Dean down in NOLA assisting the relief effort like Frist?"

People gravitate to what they are good at......

with Frist, it's doctorin',

With Dean, it's bitchin.'

24 posted on 09/07/2005 9:14:24 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Mayor Culpa and Gov. Blank-O are Dems & shall NOT be subject to questioning!")
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To: hoboken109

That has been Jackson's modus operandi for 30 years. Your prediction is already carved in stone!


25 posted on 09/07/2005 9:17:50 PM PDT by aworldtrader
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To: InvisibleChurch
Dean: Race Played a Role in Katrina Deaths. Race was a factor in the death toll from Hurricane Katrina..

The more I think about it the more I believe that Radical leftists are trying to foment a civil war in this country.
26 posted on 09/07/2005 9:19:19 PM PDT by lmr (Thanks to tet68, this tagline has been updated)
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To: hoboken109

From one "newbie" to another, welcome to FR.


27 posted on 09/07/2005 9:20:04 PM PDT by aworldtrader
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To: InvisibleChurch

Well, there was the race to Walmart.


28 posted on 09/07/2005 9:22:37 PM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: hoboken109
where is Rev Al Sharpton ? He must be rehearsing his script all week . MARK MY WORDS.Sharpton or Jackson will be DEMAMDING a Million Dollars reparation for black victims of the hurricane.

And what would be wrong with this demand? 9/11 families received, on average, 1.2M.... Your family members who may have lost their lives in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam or ME conflicts recieved what?

29 posted on 09/07/2005 9:25:31 PM PDT by daguberment (The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish....)
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To: aworldtrader

Thanx man..I been reading FR for a long time ( up way too late at night doing it by the way )but decided I had to jump in and start putting in my 2 cents


30 posted on 09/07/2005 9:26:11 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: daguberment

I'm a bit confused at your posting.


31 posted on 09/07/2005 9:27:26 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: hoboken109

I gotta feeling your 2 cents are a good investment.


32 posted on 09/07/2005 9:28:50 PM PDT by aworldtrader
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To: daguberment; hoboken109

And your point is?


33 posted on 09/07/2005 9:30:12 PM PDT by aworldtrader
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To: hoboken109

I truly believe that - if Jesus doesn't come first - our country will literally split into x number of smaller countries in the near future. And I fear that it's gone too far to turn it back. The 'Imminent Domain' ruling was a breath taking slap in every American's face. And now all this.


34 posted on 09/07/2005 9:34:39 PM PDT by Oran ('Government is.....like fire...a dangerous servant and a fearful master.' George Washington)
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To: aworldtrader

Forget it . I though it was obvious.


35 posted on 09/07/2005 9:37:57 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: aworldtrader

Yea , Im afraid you are right . That will be the new cry next week .We demand 1 million for each survivor.


36 posted on 09/07/2005 9:39:09 PM PDT by hoboken109
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To: HHFi

It's called "Learned Helplessness."


37 posted on 09/07/2005 9:40:11 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: SandRat

Love your tagline, SandRat!

The Dems have come a long, shameful way since JFKennedy said, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."

Today, if JFK came back to life in America, he'd have to change his party affiliation to Republican!"


38 posted on 09/07/2005 9:42:06 PM PDT by bethtopaz (We will not allow another generation of heroes to be forsaken. -- NewLand, from Free Republic)
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To: HHFi

Exactly.


39 posted on 09/07/2005 9:44:21 PM PDT by Kryptonite
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To: RWR8189
Why wasn't Dr. Dean down in NOLA assisting the relief effort like Frist?

The people of NO are not Dean's kind of people. He fears for his safety.

BTW: Did anyone spot Michael Moore wading in the water making his next docu_lie.

40 posted on 09/07/2005 9:45:31 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Recall Barbara Boxer)
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To: lmr
The more I think about it the more I believe that Radical leftists are trying to foment a civil war in this country.

It'd be the last thing they ever do, without a doubt. I used to think they couldn't be that stupid; now I just don't know.

41 posted on 09/07/2005 9:48:28 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: InvisibleChurch
"Stephen J. Thurston, president of the Baptist Convention, said there was a lack of response and sensitivity by the government following the Gulf Coast disaster."

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At the 2004 General Assembly of the National Council of Churches and Church World Service meeting

Rev. Dr. Stephen J. Thurston, National Baptist Convention of America

******

The Our VOTE Training Manual,” provides a much needed resource to African American Church leaders. The Black Church has historically been involved in social justice efforts that move us towards the liberation of our people. The prophetic voice of the Civil Rights Movement used the power of our voice to bring about social change that brought about the “Right to Vote.” As a people we can not afford to rely on others to speak on our behalf. The future of our communities and the future of the church are at stake.

At a time when far too many of our elected officials are not receptive or responsive to the needs of those who elect them to serve, it is imperative that we use Our V. O. T. E. to prepare our present and future voters for what lies ahead. That is, the usage of this manual will lead to an informed, involved, and impressive electorate community.

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Rev. Stephen Thurston, president of the National Baptist Convention of America and pastor of New Covenant Missionary Baptist Church on Chicago's South Side, said he favors hiring lobbyists to make the agenda mainstream.

He also said building bridges could fill the void left by the defunct Congress of National Black Churches

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"We don't have a political agenda, we have a faith agenda," Thurston said. "The Bible says faith without works is dead. We preach about it. Teach about it. It's nothing new."

Still, clergy did not hesitate to criticize the Bush administration from the pulpit.

"After 50 years of struggle, we face a nation and a world where the gains of African-Americans have been eroded by an uncompassionate leadership under the guise of compassionate conservatism," Jemison said. "Money that could be used to alleviate poverty, lift up suffering and make a difference in the lives of others has been used in a war that is immoral and threatens the lives of our boys and girls."

"We can be out of slavery, out of segregation, have the right to vote, but still starve to death unless you get to the fourth stage, access to capital, industry and technology," he said. "That's what the four conventions reconnecting is about."

******

Tired of seeing America's moral agenda hijacked by debates over gay rights

... Stephen Thurston, president of the National Baptist Convention of ...

42 posted on 09/07/2005 9:50:27 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: hoboken109

My point is... that all the NO insurgents, uhmmm, refugees, should be provided with beaucoup $'s. Immediately. I am suggesting they be given debit cards for $3K/mo, up to a lifetime limit of the 9/11 average of 1.2M. Please, let's cooperate here. Thank you and please email me with questions on the details of this program.


43 posted on 09/07/2005 9:51:12 PM PDT by daguberment (The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish....)
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To: hoboken109
Personally I dont think any of these idiots believe in half the crap they say...

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Perhaps they don't believe half of what they say.

Have you considered the implications if they DO believe EVERYTHING they say? After all, you did use the term idiots to describe them.
44 posted on 09/07/2005 9:51:19 PM PDT by Cheburashka
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To: daguberment

"And what would be wrong with this demand? 9/11 families received, on average, 1.2M.... "




That was in large part to keep the families from suing the airlines into bankruptcy. No airlines or really anybody to sue here.


45 posted on 09/07/2005 9:53:16 PM PDT by Pirogue Captain
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To: daguberment

You are equating death in war to death by natural disaster? HUH? Also, I can't recall hearing of any family receiving that much money for losing a loved one to war in the first place. Not one single one.


46 posted on 09/07/2005 9:54:19 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: ladyinred
You are equating death in war to death by natural disaster?

No, I'm not suggesting that. The Feds set a standard with 9/11 families. Now we need to carry that forward with every citizen, or military volunteer, (my greatest respect to these folks), who are hurt, injured, inconvienced in any way whatsoever. The Feds need to pay them, and make it right. Isn't that where we are going?

47 posted on 09/07/2005 10:01:05 PM PDT by daguberment (The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish....)
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To: daguberment
I don't fault you for thinking this way. Even Rush had it wrong today. The 911 families had to sign papers saying they relinquished their rights to sue the airlines involved. It was basically settlement money. We are talking apples and oranges.
48 posted on 09/07/2005 10:11:19 PM PDT by Pirogue Captain
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To: daguberment

Oh, I get it now! Sorry. :-)


49 posted on 09/07/2005 10:12:04 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftist=Anti American!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The only "race" that played a role was the "race" to blame President Bush.


50 posted on 09/07/2005 10:12:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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