Posted on 09/07/2005 11:18:09 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
Secret Service investigates posting about shooting police, Bush
Associated Press
LOUISVILLE, Ky. - The U.S. Secret Service is investigating a student who suggested in an Internet posting that people taking necessities after Hurricane Katrina should shoot police officers, guardsmen and President Bush if necessary.
Phillip Bailey, 21 and chairman of the University of Louisvill's Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, confirmed meeting with Secret Service agents on Tuesday. He said he does not regret his posting.
He said he was trying to say that it's understandable for people to fight for survival and claims that he wasn't advocating violence.
"I'm advocating that people defend themselves and survive," he said.
Local Fraternal Order of Police President Richard Dotson said one of his members alerted union leadership about Bailey's comments, and someone from the union reported the Web posting to the Secret Service.
"As far as I'm concerned, it's a direct threat against authority," Dotson said. "We're concerned that someone out there might believe the remarks of this man."
Bailey's message was posted Monday on a Web site called "The SOULution" and responded to a posting suggesting that looters be shot.
Bailey wrote that many people in New Orleans were simply trying to find necessities to stay alive, and noted, "I say shoot every cop, national guard and politician who stands in your way, INCLUDING GEORGE W. BUSH if need be."
James Cobb, special agent in charge of the Louisville office of the Secret Service, said it will be up to the U.S. attorney's office whether Bailey is charged with making threats against the president. The offense can carry a five-year penalty.
Bailey, who has been active in efforts to fight violence in the city, said he believes that people are trying to misuse his comments to discredit him. He is scheduled to appear next weekend on a panel featuring local religious, government and community leaders, including Metro Police Chief Robert White. The panel is supposed to discuss ways to help young black men in the city.
Christopher 2X, who works with Bailey on some projects, said the student should have been more careful about how he expressed himself, because any controversy can jeopardize the positive work he does.
"He's 21 years old and he's in a learning process, and what he did is not show good judgment," 2X said.
U of L professor Ricky Jones said Bailey's comments have been blown out of proportion.
"Phillip Bailey is not a terrorist," Jones said. "Phillip Bailey is not a presidential assassin nor a potential presidential assassin."
"Christopher 2X"
Must mean he's twice the idiot Phillip Bailey is.
That boggles the mind.
I loved his work with Earth, Wind and Fire.
Ya, like I'm going to believe a college professor.
I'm still trying to figure out how folks had to go looting for food and water after only one day without.
It's a sad state of affairs when our schools are so bad that they teach people to label themselves without teaching them what the words mean, like non violent in this instance.
It's often the people who try to put themselves off as the most compassionate that lash outlike this. I've seen it time and again with liberals, and several times here at free republic.
They'll call you insensitive, uncaring, unchristian - you name it. But if you stick to your guns and prove your position correct, they'll start lashing out at you. Projection - "I think you must be a horrible, violent person because deep down that's what I really am".
Well said.
Bless his heart..he is just 21 and in a learning process..
OK. Who does the DUmmy funnies? Didn't I read on there that someone from DU said basically the same thing?
Since when is shooting someone NONVIOLENT?
Remember all those who said that Mohammad Siddique Khan was not a terrorist? That he was just a simple Yorkshire school teacher? That there was no way he could have been a suicide bomber -- that the police must have been mistaken in identifying him. And so forth.
It appears that he completely misses the point of having a NONVIOLENT committee. As usual, the "tolerance" o the left only extends to those that fully agree with them.
Terrific point! As to the statement made by the idiot: if what he repeated in the article is what he did say, I don't see a 'direct threat against the President' The President wouldn't be down there confronting looters. He could have just as easily said, 'even Jesus if necessary'. I'm more outraged about his call to shoot police, it would be the latter who would be confronting looters.
Hehe...see post 17...you beat me to it while I was searching for an image...
No, he is an adult and should be responsible for his mouth.
...who is too cowardly to do it himself.
So Rev. Pat Robertson says "I don't know about the Doctrine of assassination, but if Hugo Chavez believes we are trying to assassinate him we might as well go ahead and do it" and that was called outrageous and the State Dept had to denounce it, etc.
Now a left winger goes out and says shoot the President, not some foreign dictator and it's hardly mentioned. This isn't the first time either, you had the book mentioning assassinating BUsh 43.
If the secret service are after this, they must be camping out at DU monitoring all their threats 24-7.
He's not in jail? What the...??? We're at war and rat-bastard traitors like that should be locked up in Gitmo for the duration! Well, I can dream, can't I? :-(
naw, he's just a wee dipsh!t with a big mouth and the delusion that one can feed a family of seven with a boiled wide-screen television set.
Well he's certainly taught me something.
I'd dearly love to practice a little non-violence on his a$$.
How old was Hinkley when he did his dirty deed?
"I'm still trying to figure out how folks had to go looting for food and water after only one day without."
Exactly ! If it was three days after the fact, then I would start calling it survival.
You would think there wasn`t a liter of soda or some crackers in a single household with all the looters.
I am not buying it myself either.
Strange, at 21, one of my sons had been in the Army for four years, and at 21, I had been in the Navy and was just due for discharge (Honorable, that is).
Sounds like the truth. Except you can believe them when they say that they intend to raise your taxes or take away your freedoms.
Someone who is "preaching" nonviolence is pretty happy about telling others to be extremely violent, it seems and a 21 year old used to be an adult.
"Only 21 and still learning"
Astonishing excuse for encouraging others to murder police, Guard and the President.
He's an easy lover. Like no other. And I'm just trying to make you see.
Exactly..
all of them want to be the one to aim the mob, not be the thug in the front rank
Thanks! GMTA :-)
funny how that works, isn't it?
I am stunned. The BTK killers friends, neighbors, and family didn't know he was a serial killer either. Can we hold the good Professor libel if this jackass does do something stupid?
HOWEVER, my son is going to graduate school, listens to classic '70s easy listin' and some Lizst, Mozart and Rachmaninoff. He and his fiance are going to Church on a regular basis.
So... Maybe my wife and I got straightened out, and on the right path in life.
Devils in Washington, D.C.
By: Phillip M. Bailey
email: pmbail03@louisville.edu
Mr. Bailey is a columnist for The Louisville Cardinal Online
If the words above really are Marcus Deane he has shown his true racist colors. The black people that were left behind to die by their government have absolutely every right to survive.
Why is it we are so aligned with profit and goods more than people? Is this becoming a country that can only wage war and protect the elite?
Since Deane is swinging so far from the reactionary right, let me swing an equal blow from the revolutionary left.
I say take everything you can to keep you and your family alive, because it took the government five long days to bring fresh food and water. That's five days of no bathing, water, food, decent shelter, toilet or basic human functions.
I say shoot every cop, national guard and politician who stands in your way, INCLUDING GEORGE W. BUSH if need be.
I say once you get out of New Orleans or wherever else has been destroyed you demand FREE housing and medical treatment paid for by the U.S. government.
I say we unite and demand legislation that strengthens the government to help poor people. Stop relying on the altruism of the private sector and let's create a radically progressive public institution.
Peace & Uhuru
Note:
"I say shoot every cop, national guard and politician who stands in your way..."
U of L Student Defends Controversial Comments - Click Here For Link to Video
http://www.rcfop.com/video/news/wlky32/090705.htm
What a truly insightful observation...bravo!
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I think it's time an example was made. This sounds as good as any. 5 yrs max, give him a couple to figure out if he still thinks it was a smart idea.
*bows*
all of these college snots want to be Commisars, none want to be grunts - that's what they think "the proletariat" is for: Cannon-fodder.
One wonders when "the proletariat" will awaken to this fact.
>cough<
"liable"
libel is another matter entirely.
Yeah but think how many MREs could have been provided to the people there if his (my) money wasn't funding a wasted education.
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