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[CA] Assembly OKs bill allowing illegal immigrants to get licenses
AP ^ | 9/8/5 | STEVE LAWRENCE

Posted on 09/08/2005 10:33:18 AM PDT by SmithL

SACRAMENTO -- Another attempt to allow illegal immigrants to qualify for California driver's licenses is one step from the governor's desk and a likely veto after a heated Assembly debate that included charges of racism.

Lawmakers voted 42-34 late Wednesday to approve a bill by Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, that would allow undocumented immigrants to get licenses that would have to be of a different design or color than standard licenses and would not be widely recognized as valid identification documents.

The bill's supporters said the measure would implement federal security requirements and improve highway safety by requiring that license applicants pass a driving test and by making them eligible to get auto insurance.

"It's vital that we all take responsibility for ensuring that all drivers are educated, tested and licensed," said Assemblyman Ron Calderon, D-Montebello. "Trained, tested and insured drivers enhance public safety for all of us."

But opponents said the bill amounted to rewarding illegal behavior by immigrants who burden the state's schools and hospitals.

"We're talking about people who broke into this country," said Assemblyman Jay La Suer, R-La Mesa.

"The reward is not the driver's license," replied Assemblyman Alberto Torrico, D-Fremont. "People come to this country for the jobs and a better opportunity."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; california; cedillo; driverslicense; illegal; immigrantlist; montebello; roncalderon; sb60
When will this Run-Amok Legislature finally adjourn?
1 posted on 09/08/2005 10:33:21 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Arnold better veto this too!


2 posted on 09/08/2005 10:34:03 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: SmithL

The people are as much to blame as anyone. They need to vote them out ASAP.


3 posted on 09/08/2005 10:36:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: SmithL
They never learn. But the libs here could care less about public opinion. They needed to placate their two most powerful constituencies: gays and the open borders lobby.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
4 posted on 09/08/2005 10:37:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: SmithL

Never, why should they? The voters let them get away with it. How many of you called your assemblymen/women yesterday to voice your opposition of this bill? I did. I also called all the transportation committee who first voted on it.


5 posted on 09/08/2005 10:37:55 AM PDT by sheana
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To: SmithL

Another veto for One-Bill Gil (Cedillo).


6 posted on 09/08/2005 10:37:59 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: goldstategop

Is there any Left Wing lobby that the Cal legislature does not pander to?


7 posted on 09/08/2005 10:38:26 AM PDT by Rosemont
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To: SmithL
a heated Assembly debate that included charges of racism.

Racism? What a shock. See my tagline.

8 posted on 09/08/2005 10:38:40 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: sheana

Politicans listen on to those who contribute the most to their war chests. I (sadly) gave up on my representatives a couple of years ago. (I had been a once a week caller for several years.)


9 posted on 09/08/2005 10:41:16 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: moehoward

"Arnold better veto this too!"

He will, but what will you do after he's gone ?

WE THE PEOPLE need to make fundamental changes in how this State is to run.

Arnold will do much, though his props if there is no other way, but we have to get rid of these legislators who just refuse to do the will of the people.


10 posted on 09/08/2005 10:41:47 AM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: SmithL
The process of pandering to special interests continues.
(Yawn!)

They send up a radical bill. The Gov. vetoes it. Nothing gets done. The legislators get more special interest $$$.

It is a truly remarkable example of government wheel spinning and waste.

Hey, but I'm glad the MSM is on the case, exposing this fraudulent routine. (NOT!) And they riduculed the Gov. for suggesting a part-time legislature? Yeah, I can see these guys and gals are doing really, really important work up there! /sar
11 posted on 09/08/2005 10:41:52 AM PDT by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: SmithL

Ya know I can't believe the good folks in Pasadena, San Marino and South Pasadena voted for this clown, Cedillo???
There must be someone in the district with half a brain to run against this clown!!!

I know the Mexican-American native Californians are OUTRAGED by all these illegals running around unabated!
These illegals are taking away their jobs, ruining the neighborhoods and pulling down the wage scales!!!


12 posted on 09/08/2005 10:42:04 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: moehoward

He says he will. When he came into office he veto this and the gay marriage bill.

Two years later the legislature gives him similar bills against the will of the people.


13 posted on 09/08/2005 10:43:23 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: proudofthesouth

The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Why do you think they listen to the special interest groups? They are small but very loud. We need to do the same. Let our voices be heard and not be defeatists.


14 posted on 09/08/2005 10:43:23 AM PDT by sheana
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To: SmithL

Can you say,"MOTOR VOTER?"


15 posted on 09/08/2005 10:44:40 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; A CA Guy; ...

ping


16 posted on 09/08/2005 10:46:05 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: All

I hope CA FReepers contact this idiot's office and voice their outrage!!!!

State Senate District 22
Gil Cedillo

State Capitol, Room 5100
Sacramento, CA 95814
Phone: (916) 651-4022
Fax: (916) 445-0413


17 posted on 09/08/2005 10:47:00 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: SmithL

Where can I live where it's sane?


18 posted on 09/08/2005 10:48:16 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: SmithL

The congressperson was offended and bigotry and racism hung in the room. Why, for calling a spade a spade?
Would they prefer foreign criminal? Those who break the law are considered criminals in most societies.
And if they succeed in rewarding these folks, you can bet the flow will increase, and eventually they'll be allowed to vote.
What would be next?


19 posted on 09/08/2005 10:50:55 AM PDT by Straight8 (Humpty Dumpty was pushed!(That's my conspiracy theory, and I'm Stickin' to it))
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To: SmithL

The congressperson was offended and bigotry and racism hung in the room. Why, for calling a spade a spade?
Would they prefer foreign criminal? Those who break the law are considered criminals in most societies.
And if they succeed in rewarding these folks, you can bet the flow will increase, and eventually they'll be allowed to vote.
What would be next?


20 posted on 09/08/2005 10:53:41 AM PDT by Straight8 (Humpty Dumpty was pushed!(That's my conspiracy theory, and I'm Stickin' to it))
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To: Disambiguator
Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel the projective personality.
21 posted on 09/08/2005 10:54:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Straight8

OOPS!
Too impatient. :-(


22 posted on 09/08/2005 10:55:48 AM PDT by Straight8 (Humpty Dumpty was pushed!(That's my conspiracy theory, and I'm Stickin' to it))
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To: Straight8
Would they prefer foreign criminal?

Would unapprehended scofflaws be less offensive to them? I'd hate to offend the highly sensitive amongst them.

23 posted on 09/08/2005 10:58:01 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Don Corleone

"Can you say,"MOTOR VOTER?"

A small portion of Assemblyman Joe Nation's reply to my letter opposing this bill:

"First, SB60 does not allow people to vote. Under federal law, it is a felony for an UNDOCUMENTED CITIZEN (caps mine) to vote. While voter registration cards are currently attached to driver's license applications, the card contains a clear statement that it is illegal for someone to complete the card if they are not a US citizen."

Yeah - I'm sure that'll really put fear into someone who's breaking the law anyway!!!

This same Joe Nation is the one who wants schools to offer vegan lunches and outlaw dove hunting. God have mercy on me, my other representatives are Lynn Woolsey, Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer.

That leaves me with Arnold and George W. We all know where G.W. is on the border issue - no where.


24 posted on 09/08/2005 11:05:18 AM PDT by CATravelAgent (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: sheana

Special interests groups pay them mucho $$. That's the reason the politicans listen to them. They sell themselves to the highest bidder.


25 posted on 09/08/2005 11:05:30 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: kellynla; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge
"...I can't believe the good folks in Pasadena, San Marino and South Pasadena voted for this clown, Cedillo???"

It would be very interesting to see some voting statistics from Cedillo's district as well as the demographic breakdown.

Our state legislature is well on the way to becoming a branch office of the Mexican government. That, along with with the like-minded liberals and gays and the gerrymandered districts out of which these skunks operate, plus however many illegals the Rats manage to transport to the polls, ensure a continuation of the present mess.

Until we get a governor willing to take this on who can inspire and energize the voters, we're stuck with it. We thought Arnold was that governor. By now, it should be quite clear he is not.

26 posted on 09/08/2005 11:06:48 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: SmithL
If he does not veto this bill he will not get the GOP nomination for Governor. Guaranteed.
27 posted on 09/08/2005 11:07:08 AM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: SmithL

Aw-w-w-w, isn't that nice? The legislators are doing 'the will of the people'. Tell me again what 'representative government' means?


28 posted on 09/08/2005 11:08:07 AM PDT by hardworking
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To: Gefreiter

Don't pick washington unless you want to live outside the city of Seattle.

The Californians have moved up here in mass (they ofcourse are escaping the mess they created down there) and are doing everything possible to turn it into the socialist republic of washington.

Your already seeing their calling cards.

Election fraud
Union pandering
Left-wing wackos elected
Highway projects held up due to environmental studies that take years and end up costing double or triple what was budgeted.
Skyrocketing real estate prices
Massive state budget problems
High taxes
Gas tax increases
Bad driving
Guys wearing capri pants



29 posted on 09/08/2005 11:09:23 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: Gefreiter

Where can I live where it's sane?

Beats me, but when you find it please let me know. Thanks.


30 posted on 09/08/2005 11:09:36 AM PDT by hardworking
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To: RS
WE THE PEOPLE need to make fundamental changes in how this State is to run

The border police initiative would be worth doing, but Prop. 200 in Arizona is the template for a successful (legally) initiative which would squeeze off illegal voting, and probably lead to the defeat of some of the freak leftists in the state assembly.

Until then, the laws in California will be made by aliens, seditionists, and traitors, because they are elected on the votes of people who shouldn't be voting, in districts that are largely fictitious, since they depend on a census that includes massive numbers of illegal aliens (like, all of Central and South L.A.).

31 posted on 09/08/2005 11:12:38 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Gefreiter

Where can I live where it's sane?

Afterthought: Recently spent some time in Montana and learned that the local response to environmentalist wackos is pretty much 'Get otta here!' which was music to my ears. Does get mighty cold in the winter, however.


32 posted on 09/08/2005 11:12:40 AM PDT by hardworking
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To: SmithL
Do they think Arnold will run out of ink from his pen when he veto's this?

Good grief.

It seems it's all out war with the State ASSembly vs. the voting people of California

33 posted on 09/08/2005 11:13:05 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: SmithL

Well, they're tenacious little monkeys!


34 posted on 09/08/2005 11:13:53 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: hardworking

Hmmmm...Montana, eh...?

I'll file that away. Next year or the year after I'll be looking nationally for a new job. Can't hurt to get some ideas now.

And fwiw, winters in MA aren't a treat. Then again, maybe not so many militia-types running around here. Then again, again, we're drowning in snotty undergraduates and latte-sippers.

Huh.


35 posted on 09/08/2005 11:18:06 AM PDT by Gefreiter ("Are you drinking 1% because you think you're fat?")
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To: CATravelAgent
This same Joe Nation is the one who wants schools to offer vegan lunches and outlaw dove hunting.

Ah, I see he has other fine qualities besides not knowing the difference between legal and illegal. Keep the updates on Joe Nation coming. The comic relief is needed.

36 posted on 09/08/2005 11:26:41 AM PDT by planekT (What a mess.)
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To: hardworking
Tell me again what 'representative government' means?

Whatever it means, we don't have it in Mexifornia. Any assemblymember who voted for this outrage should be booted out, but the truth of the matter is that we're being outnumbered here, and the open borders lobby is able to enrich the bank accounts of the politicians.

37 posted on 09/08/2005 11:28:14 AM PDT by janetgreen ((WHY weren't the borders closed after 9/11/01? WHY??))
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


38 posted on 09/08/2005 11:34:15 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: skeeter
Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of the projective personality.

Thanks, but it just doesn't roll off the tongue the same. Plus, I wouldn't want to dilute the original metaphor too much.

:^)

39 posted on 09/08/2005 11:48:27 AM PDT by Disambiguator (Making accusations of racism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: SmithL
Found a great website for CA residents to get informed and contact our "representatives" letting them know we will not stand for illegal immigration!!

http://www.capsweb.org/main.html

I'm just one person. Born and raised in So CA, I live and work in So CA. I don't have the resources to go to Sacramento tomorrow and bang on "One-Bill-Gil's" door, telling him to KNOCK IT OFF, ALLREADY!!! I wish I could. Because, unfortunately that's the only way I feel my voice will be heard!

People like us (CA Freepers) must stand together and make difference!
40 posted on 09/08/2005 11:49:31 AM PDT by Jackapoozee (What happen to common sense?!)
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To: SmithL
Lawmakers voted 42-34 late Wednesday to approve a bill by Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles

These people are hell bent on doing exactly what they want, and just flat out ignoring the people.

41 posted on 09/08/2005 11:50:00 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: SmithL
"We're talking about people who broke into this country," said Assemblyman Jay La Suer, R-La Mesa.

I happened to catch part of this "discussion" on TV yesterday, and I've got to say that La Suer rocks. The man let the Dem retards have it. The funny part is that he said specifically that people are using the charge of "racism" to try to stifle opposition to this bill, and the very next speaker was a female Dem whackjob whose first words into the microphone were racism, racism, racism.
42 posted on 09/08/2005 12:09:47 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: kellynla

They didn't. They probably didn't vote at all, and the illegal alien vote put this jerk in office.


43 posted on 09/08/2005 12:50:37 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: television is just wrong

Well I called his office, identified myself and voiced my outrage to whoever answered the phone...


44 posted on 09/08/2005 1:08:23 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla

Well I called his office, identified myself and voiced my outrage to whoever answered the phone...

Did they tell you they do not accept abusive phone calls? Or did they just hang up.


45 posted on 09/08/2005 2:17:24 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: television is just wrong

"abusive?"

I wasn't "abusive" just outraged and upset!


46 posted on 09/08/2005 2:21:10 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: SmithL

"Lawmakers voted 42-34" Wasn't the votes for Gay marriage about the same percentage as this?


47 posted on 09/08/2005 2:27:51 PM PDT by AMERIKA
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To: kellynla
I wasn't "abusive" just outraged and upset!

They know the mood of the people right now. They just don't get it. It's like they are living in never never land.

48 posted on 09/08/2005 2:34:54 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: kellynla

they call that abusive.


49 posted on 09/08/2005 7:50:36 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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