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MASTER THREAD: The Historical Record of DemocRAT Partisan Attacks in Hurricane Katrina Tragedy
the FReepers | 9-8-05 | Doug from Upland

Posted on 09/08/2005 12:39:03 PM PDT by doug from upland

FReepers, please use this thread as the historical record of partisan DemocRATS shamelessly attacking the President during the time of the Katrina tragedy.

Please give their exact quotes with place and date, if possible. Please be sure to back up the statements with a link, preferably from a major source. Post statements from elected officials, political notables, and Hollywood fools.

We can make this thread a powerful tool to show how political, how partisan, how pathetic, and how putrid they are as they desperately want to take back power. They will stop at nothing.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: attacksonbush; democrats; katrina

1 posted on 09/08/2005 12:39:06 PM PDT by doug from upland
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"Post statements from elected officials, political notables, and Hollywood fools."

Does this include moronic reporters?

2 posted on 09/08/2005 12:40:49 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: doug from upland

3 posted on 09/08/2005 12:41:34 PM PDT by alessandrofiaschi (Is Roberts really a conservative?)
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To: doug from upland

bookmarked


4 posted on 09/08/2005 12:42:18 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: doug from upland

Bump


5 posted on 09/08/2005 12:42:27 PM PDT by wingman1 (University of Vietnam 1970. Forget? Hell.)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

i just read on MSNBC that Mooron is "seriously considering" doing a movie on katrina like he did 9/11...


with that said...did any ofthe 9/11 vicitms get any of the profits? no. so mooron is gong to exploit yet another group of vicitms for personal gain......


6 posted on 09/08/2005 12:43:31 PM PDT by beansox
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To: Al
Rapper Kanye West
Sept. 2, 2005
New York
Concert for hurricane relief televised on NBC

LINK

"George Bush doesn't care about black people."

7 posted on 09/08/2005 12:44:51 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

MoveOn.org's pathetic petition, Don't Blame the Victims, Get to Work:

In the immediate days after Katrina, we saw the best of America as millions of people stepped forward to offer help. Meanwhile, the Bush administration failed at their most important job: keeping America safe. The federal effort was too little, too late and the fact that the White House would blame state and local officials after they had begged for help is appalling.

http://political.moveon.org/helpvictims/


8 posted on 09/08/2005 12:45:54 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("When it's not easy pickings, they'll go somewhere else." -- NO property owner)
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To: doug from upland

off subject: i think i read a post of 13??? nursing home people were killed?? znyone help me with this ???


9 posted on 09/08/2005 12:46:18 PM PDT by camas
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To: camas

This what you were referring to?

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/08/katrina.impact/


10 posted on 09/08/2005 12:49:00 PM PDT by FairfaxVA (SELECT * FROM liberals WHERE clue > 0. Zero rows returned!)
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To: doug from upland
Harry Reid

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/07/katrina/main824311.shtml

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada pressed for a broad investigation that would explore questions such as "How much time did the president spend dealing with this emerging crisis while he was on vacation?"

11 posted on 09/08/2005 12:50:14 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: doug from upland

September 7, 2005:

"We must ... come to terms with the ugly truth that skin color, age and economics played a deadly role in who survived and who did not," Howard Dean said.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1479924/posts


12 posted on 09/08/2005 12:50:24 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: doug from upland

Every disaster needs a contingency plan.

Here is New Orlean's plan Had they followed it, may lives would have been saved.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:4CGCqv6EbJAJ:www.new-orleans.la.us/cnoweb/cpc/transportation/Chapter3_3to3_6.pdf&hl=en

This is Galveston's plan for a hurricane Use school buses! What a novel idea!


http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:dAuxFU4g9GAJ:www.khou.com/news/local/galveston/stories/khou050802_gj_hurricaneseason.35de5241.html+buses+used+to+evacuate+hurricane&hl=en&start=12


"Nagin was quoted in that local radio interview -- replayed on CNN and other networks -- that there had been a proposal to use school buses. "School buses!" he ranted with disdain, "School buses! Where are the Greyhounds? Why isn't every bus company coming here to rescue these people."


He expects greyhounds to come from all over to rescue his people when he could have had his own busses and people saved?


This is what New Oleans did with their buses:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050901/480/flpc21109012015

More on buses
http://www.blindmanphoto.com/images/Stop-Blaming-FEMA.jpg
http://home.mchsi.com/%7Eidkfa/bus2.jpg
http://home.mchsi.com/%7Eidkfa/bus1.jpg
http://www.rc4systems.net/albums/album04/DomeBuses.sized.jpg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1477943/replies?c=11

An 18 year hero had to steal a bus to save others.

http://www.local6.com/news/4929516/detail.html

"President Bush declared a state of emergency in Louisiana, authorizing federal emergency management officials to release federal aid and coordinate disaster relief efforts. By mid-afternoon, officials in Plaquemines, St. Bernard, St. Charles, Lafourche, Terrebonne and Jefferson parishes had called for voluntary or mandatory evacuations. New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin followed at 5 p.m., issuing a voluntary evacuation.


Nagin said late Saturday that he's having his legal staff look into whether he can order a mandatory evacuation of the city, a step he's been hesitant to do because of potential liability on the part of the city for closing hotels and other businesses. "Come the first break of light in the morning, you may have the first mandatory evacuation of New Orleans," Nagin told WWL-TV.


How come he didn't know what he could do BEFORE the storm hit instead of the day of the storm?



http://www.nola.com/search/index.ssf?/base/library-88/1125213019249320.xml?nola

How come he STILL doesn't know?


Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation.

It wasn't even her idea!

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:RGrwXIfpv8UJ:www.cnn.com/rssclick/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/%3Fsection%3Dcnn_topstories+president+bush+called+blanco+mandatory+evacuation+new+orleans&hl=en


Then the state stopped the Red Cross from helping
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7000060641

Or was it FEMA?
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm

But the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security, Garrett said, "told them they could not go."

"The Red Cross tells me that state agency in Louisiana said, 'Look, we do not want to create a magnet for more people to come to the Superdome or Convention Center, we want to get them out,'" he explained.

"So at the same time local officials were screaming where is the food, where is the water? The Red Cross was standing by ready [and] the Louisiana Department of Homeland Security said you can't go.


http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/9/7/235423.shtml

(I know it says Newsmax, but the story ran on FOX.)

Plan? what plan? No emergency plan, so Nalin needs Fed. gov to step in where he had no plan.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/


How could this happen in America?


"Mayor Nagin should have assessed the crisis, taken the bully pulpit, offered words of calm and encouragement, and then called upon the governor and the president to provide the tools to deliver his city from this horrible crisis. Instead, Mr. Nagin choose to hide – and when he finally emerged, it was with a very predictable indictment on everyone other than the one who is truly responsibility. You see Mr. Nagin, the buck stops with you. Ask Rudy."

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46151


It also doesn't help if you don't tell anybody

Mr. Chertoff said neither he nor Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown was told of the deteriorating situation in New Orleans until Thursday night.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20050905-120743-9482r.htm


Levys were only designed for Cat 3 storm in good condition.

http://www.enr.com/news/environment/archives/050901c.asp

and

Shea Penland, director of the Pontchartrain Institute for Environmental Studies at the University of New Orleans, said that was particularly surprising because the break was "along a section that was just upgraded."

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/national/nationalspecial/01levee.html

A cat 5 hurricane and it's problems should have come as no surprise - a 5 part series from 2002:

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/?/washingaway/

So why no levee construction? No money budgeted?

They never spent the money they got on the levee.

What? no money for the levee?


Who's fault is the levee money missing? Why did they fight an audit?

Could it be that no money went to the levee?

These guys have been indicted for obstructing a probe.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/law/news/wdl20041129.html


Army cops of Engineers wanted better protection but Envios put a stop to it.

"In other words, this plan would have saved thousands of lives and kept one of the nation’s greatest cities from lying in ruins for a decade.

At a minimum, such a plan would have staved off a significant portion of the disaster that’s unfolded before our eyes."

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=19418

State Leads in Army Corps Spending, but Millions Had Nothing to Do With Floods

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR2005090702462.html


Flaws in "system" already known but nothing done:

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/091904ccktWWLIvanFlaws.132602486.html



The word "system" implies they have done it the same way at least twice.

There was no system. Just a CF.



Where were the police?

Looting like everybody else

http://www.columbiatribune.com/2005/Aug/20050831News017.asp

see for yourself!

http://www.zippyvideos.com/8911023771013466/countdown-looting-in-walmart/


"The loss of 300 officers when the city needed them most, severely affected rescue and law enforcement efforts as New Orleans descended into lawlessness in the days after Katrina unleashed her wrath on August 29."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050908/ts_alt_afp/usweatherpolice_050908072622


Where are they now?

escaping to Houston during the aftermath.

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/special/05/katrina/3342864

or lounging in Atlanta now

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/georgia/news-article.aspx?storyid=43726

Power struggle with gov and Bush

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/03/AR2005090301680.html

Bush requested a federal takeover of the operations, Blanko balked.

http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2005/09/federal-government-tried-legal.php


ABC finally notices NO had a plan it didn't follow

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/005392.php


Patients died because of their inactions

http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=3816529&nav=5D7lBwNh

Can't blame Bush for this one.


Back in July, as this link shows, the city was readying to tell everyone "You're on your own"

http://www.nola.com/search/index.ssf?/base/news-10/1122184560198030.xml?nola


Who's really in charge?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168644,00.html


That's the question we have been asking since BEFORE the storm hit?


Who is in charge?

Who is supposed to be in charge?



"The main responsibility and authority for operational aspects of evacuation in Orleans Parish lies with the Office of Emergency Preparedness (OEP) within the Chief Administrative Office of the City. The authority to make the final decisions related to an evacuation rests with the Mayor of New Orleans."

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:4CGCqv6EbJAJ:www.new-orleans.la.us/cnoweb/cpc/transportation/Chapter3_3to3_6.pdf&hl=en


13 posted on 09/08/2005 12:51:12 PM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (I alone, am the chosen one. Because I alone, did the choosing.)
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To: doug from upland

Going back to CNN, for some of their stories first filed without editorializing:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/30/katrina/?section=cnn_topstories

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/31/katrina.impact/


14 posted on 09/08/2005 12:53:18 PM PDT by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

RFK Jr. blames Haley Barbour for Hurricane

" Perhaps it was Barbour’s memo that caused Katrina, at the last moment, to spare New Orleans and save its worst flailings for the Mississippi coast."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20050829/cm_huffpost/006396&printer=1


15 posted on 09/08/2005 12:53:39 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Choose Ye This Day
"Meanwhile, the Bush administration failed at their most important job: keeping America safe. The federal effort was too little, too late and the fact that the White House would blame state and local officials after they had begged for help is appalling."

???? Is this your opinion or are you parroting MoveOn.org??? Because, if this is your opinion, then you can go straight to hell.
16 posted on 09/08/2005 12:54:03 PM PDT by DonPaulJonesII
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To: All
Barbra Streisand, political genius
Sept. 7, 2005
Posted on her dreaded blog

LINK

Another Massive Failure of Leadership

Posted on September 7, 2005
The media clearly has had enough. They have finally refused to protect President Bush and support the Administration’s spin on yet another massive failure of leadership.

17 posted on 09/08/2005 12:54:30 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

Nagin, 9/2/05:

I told him [Bush] we had an incredible crisis here and that his flying over in Air Force One does not do it justice. And that I have been all around this city, and I am very frustrated because we are not able to marshal resources and we're outmanned in just about every respect.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/


18 posted on 09/08/2005 12:55:01 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("When it's not easy pickings, they'll go somewhere else." -- NO property owner)
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To: doug from upland

Nagin, 9/2/05:

WWL: What do you need right now to get control of this situation?

NAGIN: I need reinforcements, I need troops, man. I need 500 buses, man. We ain't talking about -- you know, one of the briefings we had, they were talking about getting public school bus drivers to come down here and bus people out here.

I'm like, "You got to be kidding me. This is a national disaster. Get every doggone Greyhound bus line in the country and get their asses moving to New Orleans."

That's -- they're thinking small, man. And this is a major, major, major deal. And I can't emphasize it enough, man. This is crazy.

I've got 15,000 to 20,000 people over at the convention center. It's bursting at the seams. The poor people in Plaquemines Parish. ... We don't have anything, and we're sharing with our brothers in Plaquemines Parish.

It's awful down here, man.

WWL: Do you believe that the president is seeing this, holding a news conference on it but can't do anything until [Louisiana Gov.] Kathleen Blanco requested him to do it? And do you know whether or not she has made that request?

NAGIN: I have no idea what they're doing. But I will tell you this: You know, God is looking down on all this, and if they are not doing everything in their power to save people, they are going to pay the price. Because every day that we delay, people are dying and they're dying by the hundreds, I'm willing to bet you.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/


19 posted on 09/08/2005 12:56:49 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("When it's not easy pickings, they'll go somewhere else." -- NO property owner)
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To: doug from upland

Nagin, 9/2/05:

WWL: Well, you and I must be in the minority. Because apparently there's a section of our citizenry out there that thinks because of a law that says the federal government can't come in unless requested by the proper people, that everything that's going on to this point has been done as good as it can possibly be.

NAGIN: Really?

WWL: I know you don't feel that way.

NAGIN: Well, did the tsunami victims request? Did it go through a formal process to request?

You know, did the Iraqi people request that we go in there? Did they ask us to go in there? What is more important?

And I'll tell you, man, I'm probably going get in a whole bunch of trouble. I'm probably going to get in so much trouble it ain't even funny. You probably won't even want to deal with me after this interview is over.

WWL: You and I will be in the funny place together.

NAGIN: But we authorized $8 billion to go to Iraq lickety-quick. After 9/11, we gave the president unprecedented powers lickety-quick to take care of New York and other places.

Now, you mean to tell me that a place where most of your oil is coming through, a place that is so unique when you mention New Orleans anywhere around the world, everybody's eyes light up -- you mean to tell me that a place where you probably have thousands of people that have died and thousands more that are dying every day, that we can't figure out a way to authorize the resources that we need? Come on, man.

You know, I'm not one of those drug addicts. I am thinking very clearly.

And I don't know whose problem it is. I don't know whether it's the governor's problem. I don't know whether it's the president's problem, but somebody needs to get their ass on a plane and sit down, the two of them, and figure this out right now.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/nagin.transcript/


20 posted on 09/08/2005 12:59:21 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("When it's not easy pickings, they'll go somewhere else." -- NO property owner)
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To: doug from upland

Rev "Hymietown" Jackson blames Bush:

" Racism is partly to blame for the deadly aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, the Rev. Jesse Jackson said, calling President Bush's response to the disaster "incompetent." "

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050902/ap_on_re_us/katrina_jackson_hk4


21 posted on 09/08/2005 12:59:45 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: Al
Sean Penn, nitwit actor
On the scene in New Orleans (just after barely escaping his leaking boat adventure)
LINK

"There are people that are dying right now and I mean babies and old people and everybody in between - they're dying. There are people dying and (the US government are) not putting the boats in the water, I think that's criminal negligence. I don't think anybody ever anticipated the criminal negligence of the Bush administration in this situation."

BONUS QUOTE from a few moments earlier - HELP!

22 posted on 09/08/2005 1:00:09 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: DonPaulJonesII

You REALLY need to read more carefully.


23 posted on 09/08/2005 1:01:52 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("When it's not easy pickings, they'll go somewhere else." -- NO property owner)
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To: doug from upland; hole_n_one
Aaron Broussard
President of Jefferson Parish, Louisian
Meet the Press
September 4, 2005

MR. BROUSSARD: ...that have worked 24/7. They're burned out, the doctors, the nurses. And I want to give you one last story and I'll shut up and let you tell me whatever you want to tell me. The guy who runs this building I'm in, emergency management, he's responsible for everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard nursing home and every day she called him and said, "Are you coming, son? Is somebody coming?" And he said, "Yeah, Mama, somebody's coming to get you. Somebody's coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebody's coming to get you on Wednesday. Somebody's coming to get you on Thursday. Somebody's coming to get you on Friday." And she drowned Friday night. She drowned Friday night.

MR. RUSSERT: Mr. President...

MR. BROUSSARD: Nobody's coming to get us. Nobody's coming to get us. The secretary has promised. Everybody's promised. They've had press conferences. I'm sick of the press conferences. For God sakes, shut up and send us somebody.

MTP 9/4/05

24 posted on 09/08/2005 1:01:59 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: doug from upland

Ping for later
Great Work


25 posted on 09/08/2005 1:10:43 PM PDT by Leofl (I'm from Texas, we don't dial 9-11)
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To: doug from upland

http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis&etMailToID=648038550

Pelosi: Bush 'oblivious' (1:04)
Senate Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi calls President Bush 'oblivious' to aid efforts for Hurricane Katrina. (September 7)


26 posted on 09/08/2005 1:11:05 PM PDT by granite (I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.)
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To: nutmeg

bookmark


27 posted on 09/08/2005 1:11:14 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: doug from upland

There are several quotes in the posts here:

http://katrinacoverage.com/

Click the tags to the right to see, for instance, posts about Howard Dean. Many of those are probably above, but some might not be.


28 posted on 09/08/2005 1:11:58 PM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: doug from upland
Great article in today's Washington Post on Hillary piling on: Clinton Draws Heat in Role of Conspicuous Critic
29 posted on 09/08/2005 1:21:03 PM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (2,4,6,8 - a burka makes me look overweight!)
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To: doug from upland
Did anyone notice Nazi Pelosi said the rats will not participate in the investigation of the hurricane. They know this will turn out poorly for their position. Their lies will be exposed. They are pulling back to mount a new charge.
30 posted on 09/08/2005 1:32:27 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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To: doug from upland
Fellow Freepers:

At the suggestion of writer Michelle Malkin last Friday, I have cobbled together a blogsite called Texas Clearinghouse for Katrina Aid to serve as a clearinghouse for refugee efforts in Texas.

Texas is getting more refugees than any other state -- that's fine, we'll take them all -- but we need help providing them with food, clothing, medicine, and shelter. We need help taking care of their pets, too.

If you are a refugee, you can information that will help you find relief. If you want to donate or volunteer, you can find someone who needs you. Believe me, there are a lot of organizations who need your help.

Right now the site mostly covers Houston, San Antonio, and Dallas but I'm adding more every night. My wife was down at Reunion Arena in Dallas Tuesday handing out care packages and spiritually ministering to the refugees as a representative of her employer. She says that the situation is tragic and that there's a lot of work to be done. There are so many children who don't know where their parents are or even if their parents are still alive.

There are a lot of churches and other organizations in Texas that need help in dealing with the problem and I would appreciate it if you would get the word out.

Many thanks,

Michael McCullough

Stingray blogsite

31 posted on 09/08/2005 3:51:15 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: doug from upland

bookmark


32 posted on 09/08/2005 4:06:09 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: doug from upland

archive


33 posted on 09/08/2005 5:40:07 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (The radical secularization of America is happening)
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To: doug from upland
Old Drudge Headlines:

Democrats' anti-Bush petition also seeks political contributions
Dean: Race Played a Role in Katrina Deaths
Dems Blast Bush Over Hurricane Response
FEMA Head Bears the Brunt of Katrina Anger
Actor Brosnan says Bush 'has a lot to answer for'
Sean Penn Slams 'criminal negligence of the Bush administration'
KRISTOF: 'Bush administration's ongoing reluctance or ineptitude in helping the poor'
Hillary calls for 9/11-type 'Katrina Commission'
Rice says race had nothing to do with Katrina aid
Sean Penn's rescue bid sinks
Katrina and the Political Echoes of 9/11: The president faces another leadership challenge amid national tragedy.

34 posted on 09/08/2005 6:20:57 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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Kanye West Rips Bush During NBC Concert
Camille Paglia: Hurricane Katrina has demolished this administration's mask of confidence
Bush's belated visit fails to appease his critics as estimated death toll tops 10,000
Jackson Blasts Bush Over Katrina Aid
CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER: 'It is reported that black hurricane victims in New Orleans have begun eating corpses to survive'
World stunned as US struggles with Katrina
Newsview: Politicians Failed Storm Victims
Kuwaiti: 'The terrorist Katrina' is a 'soldier of Allah'
35 posted on 09/08/2005 6:38:04 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: alessandrofiaschi; doug from upland
OMG is that funny.

Excellent idea, Doug! Bookmarking.

36 posted on 09/08/2005 6:40:23 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: FairfaxVA

yes, thanks


37 posted on 09/09/2005 7:08:15 AM PDT by camas
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To: doug from upland
This link has some imbedded info:

Cops trapped survivors in New Orleans

38 posted on 09/09/2005 5:24:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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