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CA Senate Again Approves Drivers License for Illegals 21-15 (goes to the Governor now)

Posted on 09/08/2005 3:05:52 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan

Senate just passed Cedillo's SB 60 - Drivers Licenses for Illegals. Assembly passed it last night. It now goes to the Governor


TOPICS: Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: cedillo; dejavu; driverslicense; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; invasionusa; kalifornia; mexifornia; onebillgil; openborders; sb60
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Really dumb of them. Arnold has vetoed it before and he will veto it again. It just makes him look good again going into the November special election.
1 posted on 09/08/2005 3:05:53 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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Only Democrat voting against was Machado (Stockton area).


2 posted on 09/08/2005 3:06:29 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Gov needs to also overturn the ruling of the Judge who ignored the will of the people on Prop 187 some 10yrs ago.

I can't wait to leave this crappy state.


3 posted on 09/08/2005 3:10:46 PM PDT by jw777
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To: ElkGroveDan

What did California do to deserve this kind of boneheaded "leadership"?


4 posted on 09/08/2005 3:12:04 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: ElkGroveDan
Really dumb of them.

Hello, we're talking about liberals. What else is new? I can't imagine someone being so stupid as to encourage illegal immigration by such moronic proposals, but apparantly, legislators in California are.
5 posted on 09/08/2005 3:12:24 PM PDT by DoraC (To insist on strength is not war-mongering. It is peace-mongering.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Really dumb of them. Arnold has vetoed it before and he will veto it again. It just makes him look good again going into the November special election.

3. Makes them look like they're doing something to white "progressives."

2. Brings in the insurance company money. They want to sell insurance.

and number one

1. Brings in the transportation lobby money. They want to depress wages of truckers, cab drivers. Good for America the ultra free traders will tell you.

6 posted on 09/08/2005 3:14:05 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: ElkGroveDan
The Ca. senate voted for this and this is what their constituents want?

Do you know how Texas would react if legislation was even proposed!

7 posted on 09/08/2005 3:15:14 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Shermy

It was dumb for the Democrats because it's not going anywhere and everyone knows it. It only gives Arnold another chance to do the right thing in the minds of the vast majority of Californians It brings in NO money, because it doesn't become law and never will.


8 posted on 09/08/2005 3:24:31 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired!)
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To: My2Cents

You let the hippies stay and you didn't listen to Ronald Reagan.

Instead, y'all went back to sleep and let the insanity take over.


9 posted on 09/08/2005 3:28:03 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Borax Queen; Brad's Gramma

ping


10 posted on 09/08/2005 3:29:27 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: TexasCajun

Someone proposes it every legislative session in TX. It never goes anywhere, and 2/3rds of the time that person isn't in office after the next electoral cycle.


11 posted on 09/08/2005 3:29:33 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: My2Cents

""What did California do to deserve this kind of boneheaded "leadership"?""

Hey! It's those idiots, fags, and hippy losers out there who voted these guys into office. They have no one to blame except themselves. I think all the conservatives should leae Cali, and cripple its economy. Send a message. Ah, but something that sounds so simple is hardly ever so.


12 posted on 09/08/2005 3:29:44 PM PDT by metalmanx2j (Eric Cartman: Democrats piss me off.)
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To: My2Cents
What did California do to deserve this kind of boneheaded "leadership"?

Sell out to the money grubbing state employee's unions?

14 posted on 09/08/2005 3:32:44 PM PDT by 386wt
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To: nicmarlo

Morons.


15 posted on 09/08/2005 3:37:44 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

morons, they are. I don't get it; the voters vote against what they vote for....yet they continue with their march.


16 posted on 09/08/2005 3:43:19 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: ElkGroveDan
Schwarzenegger on Driver Licenses for illegal aliens during a January 2004 Interview with Univision:

We are right now in the middle of working very hard with Senator Cedillo. My staff and his staff. Everyone is working together. And we are absolutely positive that we will come up with a great bill. With his help and with my team's help, I think we will work it out. So there's, uh, really a good move forward.

Interviewer: How would you deal with more conservative members of the legislature...?

Schwarzenegger: Again, it's one of those things where we all have to get together and see that this is a good idea and this is the way to move forward. So, I am talking to my Republican friends all the time about it, and also to my Democratic friends. We will do it.

Washington Times, 3/02/04

"Our staffs have met, and they're working on this together,"

said Vincent Salido, spokesman for the Republican governor


17 posted on 09/08/2005 3:45:16 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: My2Cents
The list is too long....
18 posted on 09/08/2005 3:46:39 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: pointsal

It almost like the dems are trying to help Aronld poll numbers out with the Gay Marrige and now this.


19 posted on 09/08/2005 3:51:14 PM PDT by Paul8148
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To: ElkGroveDan

Anyone wishing to send an e-mail to the Guv, here is the URL:

http://www.govmail.ca.gov/


20 posted on 09/08/2005 3:56:44 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: My2Cents
What did California do to deserve this kind of boneheaded "leadership"?

They elected them. That's the short answer.

21 posted on 09/08/2005 4:06:48 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: nicmarlo

I'm about to throw the towel in. It's clear "the people" don't have much say in the country anymore.


22 posted on 09/08/2005 4:10:58 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: ElkGroveDan
Kalifornicate's State Legislature is angry that Louisiana is getting all the attention as the stupidest Democrat controlled state --- so Sacramento is attempting to regain that position.....

There is little doubt that the Communists, Unionists, Faggots, Criminals, Racists and certifiable morons in Sacramento will win....

Semper Fi
23 posted on 09/08/2005 4:13:16 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

These DumRats are like kids who keep bugging their parents for what they want until the parents give in and say "yes".

Happens all the time in Cali. If the governor says "no", and the Calif voters say "no". They can always count on the Calif courts to say "yes".


24 posted on 09/08/2005 4:15:58 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Paul8148

Rush made this observation today as well. He's betting by vetoing the gay marriage bill Arnold's approval ratings will go up significantly.

Now with this opportunity to veto another bill THAT FLIES IN THE FACES of the MAJORITY of Californians who VOTED on these issues already, it has to go up even further.


25 posted on 09/08/2005 4:19:30 PM PDT by Breyean
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To: Carry_Okie

Schwarzenegger on Driver Licenses for illegal aliens during a December 2003 Interview with Weintraub:

http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/insider/archives/000955.html

Reporter:
"You did say that to me when we talked one on one (Sept. 6, 2003) that you would consider a package deal that would have included a requirement of insurance for those people that are going to get the drivers license. That I know is something that you believe in. Do you also believe that all undocumented immigrants will be able to get a drivers license if they present insurance, if they have a background check, fingerprints?

Governor:
"Absolutely...yes. This is what we are going to work on. This is what we are going to talk about, but right now the most important thing is to get this passed (the repeal of SB 60) so we can move to other issues. I think Senator Cedillo was extremely gracious and helpful with this whole thing. He is a great leader, he understood what would be the best thing for California; rather than just doing an immediate fix, but to make everybody happy. It doesn't make sense if the majority of Californians run around and hate the idea of undocumented immigrants having drivers licenses because there is no background check, because it doesn't solve the problem with insurance. Let's do it the right way, let's make every Californian happy and let's make the undocumented immigrants happy."


26 posted on 09/08/2005 4:20:48 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Borax Queen

No towel-throwing!

Just get even (somehow). : )


27 posted on 09/08/2005 4:21:14 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Sad and dejected *ha*


28 posted on 09/08/2005 4:22:55 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: calcowgirl

Ooops... Weintraub just published the text of that interview.
It also was an interview with Univision:
--"In an interview Monday with Univision 19 anchor Pablo Espinoza..."


29 posted on 09/08/2005 4:23:42 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Borax Queen

Keep your chin up....and keep the faith....

maybe the answer's right around the corner.

Maybe people will wake up before it's too late.

No towel-throwing allowed....unless it's at the idiots. : )


30 posted on 09/08/2005 4:26:24 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: jw777

prop 187 was the will of the people. Arizona recent prop #___?? has so far been upheld by court. Anyone know if a suit was filed? California is hopeless. He is going to veto the gay marriage bill isn't he or is he going to cave in on it at the last minute.

I too can't wait until we leave this state. Just trying for find a nice conservative state with smallest amount of illegals,liberals. If we could just carve out our city and move it out of CA.


31 posted on 09/08/2005 4:27:09 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: ElkGroveDan

Maybe the legislators are just attempting to cater to the illegal vote -they know they can party like its 1994 because Ahhhnuld is the designated driver...


32 posted on 09/08/2005 4:29:02 PM PDT by DBeers ()
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To: calcowgirl
Those who credit Schwarzenegger for signing a veto proof rescision of SB60, when there was a referendum on the way anyway, are really digging deep for sign of any accomplishment.
33 posted on 09/08/2005 4:30:07 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: newfrpr04; nicmarlo

Prop 200, approved by 57% of the voters, including huge percentage of Hispanic voters, dragged thru courts and liberal gov office, diluted and watered-down so much that it is still easier to vote than to rent a movie.


34 posted on 09/08/2005 4:30:39 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: ElkGroveDan

Boy, the Legislature's really going for the jackpot: homogamy and illegal alien driver's licenses in the same week.


35 posted on 09/08/2005 4:31:24 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: newfrpr04; nicmarlo

And I can't seem to find a state without illegals - thought Indiana had hope but apparently one town near Notre Dame is completely overrun. Every sign was in Spanish, locals can't find work, and day laborers and criminals hanging out in public....


36 posted on 09/08/2005 4:32:20 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: ElkGroveDan

Veto in 5...4...3...2...


37 posted on 09/08/2005 4:36:39 PM PDT by Kluster (FIRE DREIER)
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To: Carry_Okie
San Diego Union-Tribune, August 2004:
Schwarzenegger has consistently claimed that he supports driver licenses for illegal immigrants.

"I have said it during my campaign. I've said it to Sen. Cedillo and I have said it ever since I got into office that I want every undocumented immigrant to have a driver's license," the governor told reporters earlier this month.

"But," Schwarzenegger cautioned, "we have to solve the security issue – the problem we have of identifying who the people are."

Schwarzenegger, a legal immigrant, said security is his priority.

"It has nothing to do with a mark, or with a Jewish star, or any of that. It has to do only with one thing and this is to make it different so it's acceptable to the California people and it is also just for driving legally and not for anything else."


38 posted on 09/08/2005 4:37:22 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Borax Queen

lovely.


39 posted on 09/08/2005 4:38:43 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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I wonder if Mel Gibson ever purchased that island? maybe he interested in bringing in some Christian conservatives. We're getting desperate (ha) We'll have to buy our own town . The only thing I think California (southern) has going for it is the weather. It gets worse every year
40 posted on 09/08/2005 4:40:14 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: ElkGroveDan
Don't understand the occasional reference that granting illegals drivers license will require more insurance. I pay my insurance to obtain vehicle registration renewal, not my license. Am I wrong?
41 posted on 09/08/2005 4:42:27 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: newfrpr04
maybe he interested in bringing in some Christian conservatives. We're getting desperate (ha) We'll have to buy our own town . The only thing I think California (southern) has going for it is the weather. It gets worse every year

Totally desperate. I'll move to the new town! I don't know what else to do. And a lot of people are fleeing CA and coming here - on top of the hundreds of thousands of illegals we have living here, not to mention the millions just passing through. We don't have the hospitals (closed due to illegals), road structure (at least in Tucson), or many other things to support the influx... Not to mention there are way too many libs, druggies, welfare recipients, and winos around here.

42 posted on 09/08/2005 4:46:17 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Carry_Okie

Maybe the Kool aide drinkers will start spitting out their Kool aid if he signs it.


43 posted on 09/08/2005 4:49:37 PM PDT by FOG724 (RINOS - they are not better than leftists, they ARE leftists.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

V E T O


44 posted on 09/08/2005 4:55:05 PM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: newfrpr04

We are checking out Iowa (Des Moines), Southern Illinois and and Northern Texas. CA is not a place we would like to raise our kids or be further jaded by. Everytime we visit another city, state, we find that people by far are more conservative, more friendly, the real estate is more affordable, (granted, appreciates slower) and the quality of living seems much more geared towards family and away from BMW's and designer clothes.


45 posted on 09/08/2005 4:55:43 PM PDT by jw777
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To: Logical me

Law requires that if you have a valid california license you must have insurance. If you do not own a car and plan to drive, you must have "Non-Owned Automobile Liability"


46 posted on 09/08/2005 4:56:05 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: ElkGroveDan

http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/postquery?bill_number=sb_60&sess=CUR&house=B&site=sen


47 posted on 09/08/2005 4:59:19 PM PDT by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: Borax Queen

sometime I wonder why we bother to vote on a state and national level. I think next election I am going to vote regarding issues in our community ( hopefully will remain conservative). IF GOP doesn't get their heads out of the sand, Dems are taking over. They whine the loudest,blame, lie hoping anything sticks, and we keep letting them get away with it. Our representatives have no backbone


48 posted on 09/08/2005 5:02:25 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: Shermy

2. "Bring in the insurance companies- they want to make money"... Problem with them is that as soon as they start losing money they pull out and they do alot of redlining. State insurance programs already cater to the poor


49 posted on 09/08/2005 5:04:48 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: ElkGroveDan

The current immigration system isn’t “broken” or “failed;” it's just unenforced. Not unenforceable, mind you, just ignored. Americans don’t want so-called “immigration reform, they want strict enforcement of immigration laws, an end to illegal immigration and amnesties, and an end to the rampant lawlessness engendered by politically-correct refusal to enforce our civil laws.

There's free food, subsidized housing, reduced mortgages, food stamps, free medical and education, reduced tuition and suspension of out of state tuition fees--all of this is your reward for breaking the law, but only if you aren't already an American. If you're an American, forget about it; you have to pay your way through life. This is your reward for obeying the law.

Americans have to pay full price for their education, medical care, homes, and on top of that, our taxes go to pay for criminals--that is what illegal aliens are, make no mistake: they are criminals--who get all of that for little or even for nothing. This makes it possible--even easy--for them to work for $10 an hour or less. How many of us could afford to work for peanuts IF our homes, medical, food and education were all paid for? I know that the bulk of our bills are student loans and medical; take away those bills and you take away 90% of our debt. And I know too many people my age in the same boat...so calling it a national epidemic is probably an understatement.

Whooever wrote that read my mind.


50 posted on 09/08/2005 5:07:41 PM PDT by sheana
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