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Illegal Immigrant License Bill Advances in Calif.
LA Times ^ | 9/8/05 | Nancy Vogel

Posted on 09/08/2005 4:49:44 PM PDT by Crackingham

After a late-night debate on the politically sensitive issue of immigration, the California Assembly on Wednesday passed a bill to extend driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. The measure would clear the way for California to create a distinct driver's license, with a unique design and color, for people who cannot prove legal citizenship in the United States. The license could be used only for driving and would not be valid identification for other purposes such as opening a bank account or boarding an airplane.

The bill, SB 60 by Sen. Gil Cedillo (D-Los Angeles), would also allow roughly 800,000 people in California who have applied to federal immigration officials for legal residency to get a California driver's license starting as soon as March 2006. The bill passed 42 to 34.

Cedillo's bill passed the Senate in June on a 22-16 partisan split. Now the Senate is expected to approve recent amendments and send it to the governor, who is under pressure from Republicans to veto the measure. Cedillo said he included several elements in the bill aimed at overcoming objections from Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who last year vetoed a Cedillo driver's license bill. But before the state Assembly took up the new bill Wednesday, there were no indications that the changes would satisfy the governor.

The governor's office has consistently said Schwarzenegger does not want to take any action until the federal government finishes deciding its requirements for state licenses — changes spawned by concern that terrorists or other criminals could get such documents. Congress gave states the option to create distinct driver's licenses for illegal immigrants under the Real ID Act passed in May.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; cedillo; driverslicense; immigrantlist; sb60

1 posted on 09/08/2005 4:49:45 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham

I hope other states respond by refusing to recognize them as legal ID.


2 posted on 09/08/2005 5:01:04 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Crackingham

Referencing earlier thread from today:


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1480503/posts
CA Senate Again Approves Drivers License for Illegals 21-15 (goes to the Governor now)


3 posted on 09/08/2005 5:03:18 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: Crackingham

The ones who voted for this, have admitted to a Fed. Crime!! Lock em up.


4 posted on 09/08/2005 5:03:34 PM PDT by Waco
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To: Crackingham

If someone comes to your house with a duffelbag full of money fresh from a bank robbery and you don't notify authorities, you can be charged as an accessory to the crime. Now here we have illegal aliens crossing into California (across state lines) being provided with legal documents by the state, knowing full well of the recipients' illegal status. What prevents the federal government from sending marshals to Sacramento and removing said legislators in leg irons and orange jumpsuits for accessory to abet illegal immigration and conspiracy to do so in violation of federal law?


5 posted on 09/08/2005 5:03:45 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Crackingham

Where does the bill say they have to have insurance for when they run into a family and place two or three in a hospital? Replacement costs for their auto and time off from work. Drivers without insurance are accidents looking for a place to happen.


6 posted on 09/08/2005 5:14:20 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: calcowgirl; Carry_Okie; SierraWasp; FOG724
It looks like Cedillo is trying to one-up Arnie by taking away his most recent reason for taking exception to SB-60. Too bad the reason for opposing it isn't the most basic: Illegals are lawbreakers; they have no right to a license.

From the article:

The governor's office has consistently said Schwarzenegger does not want to take any action until the federal government finishes deciding its requirements for state licenses ... Congress gave states the option to create distinct driver's licenses for illegal immigrants under the Real ID Act passed in May.

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In an attempt to head off Schwarzenegger's concern that California should wait until the federal government details the requirements of the Real ID Act, Cedillo amended his bill last week to incorporate such a delay.


7 posted on 09/08/2005 5:16:57 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
Cedillo is playing Arnold for the weasel that he is.

They do have something in common.

8 posted on 09/08/2005 5:19:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Crackingham

We don't need a new law as immigrants to the US can already obtain an international driver's license before they immigrate.

This new bill is unnecessary.


9 posted on 09/08/2005 5:22:26 PM PDT by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: thoughtomator
Would the illegal alien drivers licenses be useful for following the driver until he went 1 mile over the speed limit and then charge him with speeding, bald tires, no light on the license plate, dirty windows, nine passengers in a 3 passenger vehicle, open bottles of tequila and other hight crimes and misdemeanors?
10 posted on 09/08/2005 5:23:20 PM PDT by street_lawyer
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To: street_lawyer

As if he would pay the ticket, or be held in jail once he was found to be illegal.


11 posted on 09/08/2005 5:25:15 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: Carry_Okie
"Cedillo is playing Arnold for the weasel that he is."

Easy to trap yourself with your own words when you have only politics but no real principles.

12 posted on 09/08/2005 5:26:28 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: SpaceBar
What prevents the federal government from sending marshals to Sacramento and removing said legislators in leg irons and orange jumpsuits for accessory to abet illegal immigration and conspiracy to do so in violation of federal law?

Nothing but cojones.

13 posted on 09/08/2005 5:44:24 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; FOG724; ElkGroveDan; NormsRevenge; Amerigomag; tubebender; hedgetrimmer; ...
"Cedillo is playing Arnold for the weasel that he is.
They do have something in common."

C.O., That is such a priceless and perfect comment that is deserves repeating!!!

Hey Norm! Does that boat driver of your crusin boat have an illegal alien license??? WATCH OUT FOR THAT ICE BERG!!! Is it time to re-arrange the deck chairs yet???

14 posted on 09/08/2005 6:04:09 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: Czar

>>Easy to trap yourself with your own words when you have only politics but no real principles.

So true. But there seems to be an abundance of teflon in Sacramento.


15 posted on 09/08/2005 6:44:38 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: SierraWasp
Waspman, you're just full of good news today!

When are they going to issue them commercial pilot's licenses?

16 posted on 09/08/2005 7:22:26 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well... Stuff Happens!!! And some of it really, REALLY STINKS!!!


17 posted on 09/08/2005 9:19:20 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: thoughtomator
If an illegal has a valid drivers license in CA then I'm sure CA will accept Mexican Paso's. In fact CA may decide to make the Mexican Paso the official monetary exchange standard for paying Motor Vehicle fines.
18 posted on 09/09/2005 6:16:34 AM PDT by street_lawyer
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To: SierraWasp

Our captain is Italiano,, so Im not going to ask him for ID. lol


Hang in there, Kalleforniyah.. This can only get better, right?

Off to Sitka for the day. :)


19 posted on 09/09/2005 10:36:30 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Off to Sitka for the day"

Sitka on it, Norm! I'm jealous!!! (grin)

20 posted on 09/09/2005 11:39:53 AM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
There are no longer any illegal aliens in the US, only New Orleans refugees. Please send them all documents lost in the hurricane. Thank you Mexico for solving that problem.
21 posted on 09/09/2005 11:47:08 AM PDT by one more state
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