Police made their storm misery worse

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | September 9, 2005 | Chip Johnson

[mosquitobite]

Sounds like the problem is they stayed at the Hotel Monteleone instead of the Hilton ;)

[razorback-bert]

Members of the guest organized and operated Hilton Katrina EMS team take a time out for a photo with Eric Janecke, Director of Marketing and Sales for the Hilton New Orleans Riverside. Eric was just one of the many staff of the Hotel that went above and beyond during the Hurricane and its aftermath.

Photo Courtesy of Author This is an example of some of the damage the Hilton New Orleans Riverside sustained on the inside as a result of Hurricane Katrina.

Now contrast this man's story with the other one.

[joesnuffy]

Like ole Joe Goebels used to say..."repeat a lie often enough
and most people will believe it"

And since the commies always stated one of their main goals
in their never ending war against free America was to take
over the media and education...

Expect this offal to be published in all of their papers and aired on all their radio and tv..

By now this theme is probably being written into hip hop songs for the MTV Anti Bush/conservtives Rant aka Katrina benefit show...

imo

[cake_crumb]

"Ahh, so they stayed behind to party, and got stuck. Move along. No sympathy here! They should have left on Friday! But plane, train or automobile!"

And they didn't. I didn't know CA EMS made so much money they could afford to pay for posh hotels in the French Quarter of NO for two extra days just to have a hurricane party.

[cake_crumb]

This is a much different story than the one about the brave EMSes looting a Walgreens, calling to order bus service in a city without phone service and being oddly unacceptable to first responders and Narional Guard.

[onef]

Thanks.

I notice that this story doesn't have the "bush's" fault and talks about how they came together and the "evil corporation (TM)" did try to help the people.

Left coast vs East coast values?

[netmilsmom]

>>Also, while water might have been a problem in the hotel, why did food become a problem in less than 14 hours? As for the charge that if they could get to a phone and order buses FEMA should have been able to...how the heck did they manage to use a phone when all the phone lines were down and cell towers out?<<

Hmmmmmmmm.

[sandbar]

I challenge you on that statement Sir! When did I say it (whatever "it" is, because I do not recall discussing bussing out of there, you are putting words in my mouth) couldn't be done?

All I ever said was that if I were left destitute (our office has adopted a family that consists of an engineer father and nurse mother who cannot access their money in their bank because the bank's computers are underwater and they are penniless and away from home) I would accept the debit card offered to me for my kids. You are the one skewing things (as usual) and wanted to spout your bravado about how you would hunt some toxic squirrels and call Walmart and ask them politely if you could loot their store. And stated that if someone accepted this card given to them by FEMA that they were stealing and accused me of thinking that looting TV's was ok because I said accepting the debit was ok. Twisted logic you have.

[PAR35]

Their left-wing rant was already posted in full here:

EMS & Hurricane Katrina
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1479856/posts

And welcome to Free Republic.

[MediaMole]

Where in the hell did they get C-rations?

They must have looted the D-Day Museum.

[PAR35]

A mile or so down the freeway, an army truck lost a couple of pallets of C-rations on a tight turn.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1479856/posts

[57chevypreterist]

Sorry--didn't see that thread. Much better detail in that thread anyway.

[PAR35]

I didn't know CA EMS made so much money they could afford to pay for posh hotels in the French Quarter of NO for two extra days just to have a hurricane party.

I recall from the other story that he was a union official.

[Shalom Israel]

I challenge you on that statement Sir! When did I say it (whatever "it" is, because I do not recall discussing bussing out of there, you are putting words in my mouth) couldn't be done?

Here's when:

You mean to tell me in a natural disaster that left most of the city without power (including the cell phone towers...) you would know for certain that you have a cell phone? ... And let's just assume that you did have a cellphone that worked, and you could get in touch with the Walmart headquarters...

Your response to my mention of telephone technology was the ridicule quoted above. I was referring to calling Wal*Mart and asking for supplies, of course, while the people in this article called a bus company and ordered ten buses. Much more dramatic than calling Wal*Mart, don't you think?

So while you did not comment specifically on hiring buses, you did reply with consistent ridicule to my assertions that people have options, and you reserved particular scorn for any suggestion involving communication out of the city, on your supposition that phone contact was impossible. What makes this case even more interesting is that I didn't even have the nerve to propose an idea as audacious as the one these people actually carried out: just imagine your scorn if I said, "They can pool their money, get on the phone and charter ten buses"!

All I ever said was that if I were left destitute... I would accept the debit card offered to me for my kids.

No, that isn't all you said; see the quote above. While we're on the subject of "destitution", however, let me point out that "destitution" means more than being strapped for cash: it means being without options. The above illustrates just one option that people made for themselves--there are as many possibilities as people to dream them up. Your overall replies on this topic have been of consistent defeatism. Nothing will ever work; any possible action is a wild scheme; etc., etc.

[PhatHead]

Except this person also says the "c rations" were confiscated at the airport because they set off the metal detectors. C-rations were indeed canned (we switched from c to mre 20 or so years ago when I served.) But MRE's are in plastic bags (at least they were when I was in the Army.) No metal. And besides, they don't confiscate all metal items at airports. Plus, who had the can opener?

There is just something weird about the c ration references, and I also find it unlikely that a NG truck was careening around corners so fast that several pallets of rations would have been flung off. The trucks have sides, and roofs, for one thing.

[Shalom Israel]

There is just something weird about the c ration references, and I also find it unlikely that a NG truck was careening around corners so fast that several pallets of rations would have been flung off...

A fair caution. We need confirmation before getting carried away by this story.

[HateBill]

"They told us that there would be no Superdomes in their city,'' the couple wrote. "These were code words that if you are poor and black, you are not crossing the Mississippi River -- and you weren't getting out of New Orleans.''

But this couple made it a point that they were white EMS workers and spent the hurricane and aftermath huddled with the other *white* people who were staying at their hotel.

So why would police officers from Gretna mistake this group of affluent white tourists for poor black NO natives who were itching to turn Gretna into the Superdome?

[sandbar]

Once again, you show your obvious lack of common sense and an arrogance that I assure you will one day bite you in the proverbial hiney.

They PONIED UP $25,000. Good for them that they had access to that kind of money. Unfortunately, most people living week to week wouldn't have access to that if THEIR HOUSE WAS UNDER WATER. Or if their bank was out of power, could not obtain it through the typical means.

Please stop pinging me to continue a debate that I eventually grew tired of on another thread.

[Enterprise]

Taking this account at face value, it's certainly astonishing! If true, the police have committed any number of local and federal felonies by this type of action. The people involved should at least get an attorney and file a civil rights action in Federal Court. And, their attorney should press for Federal Criminal violations as well.

[Enterprise]

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