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[CA] Same-sex marriage bill stalled by backers
Contra Costa Times ^ | 9/9/5 | Aaron C. Davis

Posted on 09/09/2005 10:20:39 AM PDT by SmithL

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's vow to veto a landmark same-sex marriage proposal this week -- saying it violated the will of the people -- has prompted the bill's authors to delay delivering the bill to the governor to give gay-rights advocates two weeks to bombard him with calls, e-mails and protests in a last-ditch effort to win support.

"The governor has said he supports the will of the people," said Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, one of the Legislature's six openly gay members. "Well, let the people call him, let the people e-mail him, let the people be heard. Then he can say he's following the will of the people."

The question of how Schwarzenegger, who for years had given mixed signals on his beliefs about same-sex marriage, declared so quickly he would veto the bill dominated the Capitol on Thursday.

After it was approved late Tuesday night, the bill, AB 849, was still being processed Wednesday and had not even been printed when Schwarzenegger's press secretary issued a statement that the governor would veto it. Schwarzenegger press secretary Margita Thompson said the late-day revelation should have come as no surprise because the governor has consistently said he believed voters had spoken when they approved Proposition 22 in 2000 that defined marriage as between a man and a woman.

Schwarzenegger, she said, had come to truly believe that approving same-sex marriage went against voters' desires.

Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, who authored the bill, dismissed that explanation. Stunned by the announcement, Leno on Thursday blasted Schwarzenegger's decision as a shrewd political move to protect right-wing support for his Nov. 8 special election initiatives.

"It's transparent as can be," Leno said. "He is politically pandering to the very far right of this state. ... We would have appreciated the respect of having an opportunity to have him talk to our families and children so he could hear from their mouths the suffering they experience because of the current law."

Leno lobbied lawmakers Thursday to support a rare parliamentary procedure to hold the gay marriage bill from going to the governor's desk until next year. That effort appeared destined for failure late Thursday, but lawmakers did say they were prepared to delay the bill going to Schwarzenegger until Sept. 23, which could be done without any further action by the Assembly.

Among others, Leno said, Benjamin Lopez, Sacramento lobbyist for the Traditional Values Coalition, tipped the governor to act against the bill. "They threw a public tantrum and the governor jumped," Leno said.

Indeed, Lopez on Wednesday had threatened that if Schwarzenegger signed the bill many conservatives would stay home in protest and not vote on Nov. 8.

"It's an honor to be singled out," Lopez said, referring sarcastically to Leno's comment, "but it's not me who is out of the mainstream, it's Mark Leno and his fellow same-sex marriage advocates."

Lopez, who said he last spoke with the governor's office on Tuesday about the bill and at that time had no idea which way the governor would vote, had his own theory why the governor's office came out against gay marriage so quickly.

"I've been told the governor's phone lines literally shut down because they could not take the volume of calls coming into his office from both sides," Lopez said. The governor's office said it was unaware of any interruption in phone service and declined to say how many phone calls the office received, citing the calls as privileged communication with the governor.

Eddie Gutierrez, spokesman for Equality California, the state's largest gay-rights lobbying group, said Thursday the group is planning protests in Los Angeles and San Diego this weekend.

"One man cannot terminate the civil rights movement," Gutierrez said. "He will go down in history as the 'discriminator.'"

While speculation swirled about why the governor's office acted so quickly, the long-term political impact on a group of three Assembly Democrats who cast the deciding votes for gay marriage came sharply into focus Thursday.

Assemblyman Simon Salinas, D-Salinas, who along with Tom Umberg, D-Santa Ana, and Gloria Negrete McLeod, D-Chino, faced mounting criticism from conservative and religious groups in their districts.

The Monterey County Republican Party issued a statement saying Salinas' vote violated the will of his constituents, who overwhelmingly supported Prop. 22.

Salinas is termed out of the Assembly next year and planning to challenge Republican Sen. Jeff Denham of Merced. A Denham campaign consultant said Thursday he has no doubt Salinas' vote will become a campaign issue.

Salinas didn't either.

"I don't have any illusion that the opposition will certainly use this as a wedge issue to say that I'm too far out there," Salinas said. "But this is part of the job. ... People will have to look at who I am and what I stood for."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab849; callthegovernor; homosexualagenda; markleno; playinghouse; samesexmarriage; willofthepeople
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They're still trying to subvert Prop 22 and thwart the will of the people.
1 posted on 09/09/2005 10:20:40 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

Freepers better counter the cries to support with calls and emails to veto!


2 posted on 09/09/2005 10:22:24 AM PDT by mosquitobite
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To: SmithL
You would think California would be vastly different if "pandering to the far right", meant the 61% that voted for prop 22, were far right.
3 posted on 09/09/2005 10:33:54 AM PDT by roylene
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"The governor has said he supports the will of the people," said Sen. Sheila Kuehl...

Zelda... is that you?

4 posted on 09/09/2005 10:37:12 AM PDT by Blue Champagne (Quomodo cogis comas tuas sic videri?)
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To: SmithL

Nothing is more vicious or more devious than an angry homosexual.


5 posted on 09/09/2005 10:38:20 AM PDT by squirt-gun
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To: SmithL

Rush was saying yesterday that the backers were saying that the bill was really only symbolic.

I hope Arnold stands firm.


6 posted on 09/09/2005 10:42:18 AM PDT by thompsonsjkc
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To: Brad's Gramma; doodlelady

It ain't over until it's over.

BG: Still got those contact numbers handy?

It looks like more phone calls, emails, and faxes are in order.


7 posted on 09/09/2005 10:43:08 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: SmithL

Someone please remind us...what was the vote tally for Prop 22?


8 posted on 09/09/2005 10:43:14 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (Ethiopia: The New Happiest Place on Earth.)
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To: SmithL
I called Cedillo's office yesterday and read whoever answered the phone the "riot act."

Also emailed the clown and informed him that we removed the Dimwit Davis, we can sure as hell remove him. LOL

With all the problems we have including the war in Iraq & Afghanistan and the aftermath of Katrina, whether or not a bunch of queers can obtain a marriage license is definitely not on the list of "things to do" any time in the near future...if ever at all...
Let the queers move to Canada if they want to go some where where people actually give a damn about their immoral lifestyle because 85% of Americans couldn't care less about legitimizing their "partnerships!"
9 posted on 09/09/2005 10:49:08 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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"It looks like more phone calls, emails, and faxes are in order.

Done!

10 posted on 09/09/2005 10:49:48 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: BaBaStooey

4,579,386 / 61.2% Yes votes
2,897,689 / 38.8% No votes


11 posted on 09/09/2005 10:53:21 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: All

Contact the Governor

Governor's Office

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
State Capitol Building
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Phone: 916-445-2841
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12 posted on 09/09/2005 11:12:08 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: SmithL
"The governor has said he supports the will of the people," said Sen. Sheila Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, one of the Legislature's six openly gay members. "Well, let the people call him, let the people e-mail him, let the people be heard. Then he can say he's following the will of the people."

That's a laugh. The Rats are reactionaries who yearn for the days before the revolution of "We The People". The last thing Rat leaders want is to be ruled by the people. This bill is a case in point.

13 posted on 09/09/2005 11:19:46 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: calcowgirl

done ";^)


14 posted on 09/09/2005 11:40:18 AM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady

Me too! I guess there aren't too many supporters calling as I got a human on the phone after 2 rings.


15 posted on 09/09/2005 12:00:22 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl
I'd like to have heard that conversation!
16 posted on 09/09/2005 12:16:59 PM PDT by b9
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To: calcowgirl

veto email sent


17 posted on 09/09/2005 12:24:41 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: SmithL

CA bump!!!


18 posted on 09/09/2005 12:40:58 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: SmithL
"Well, let the people call him, let the people e-mail him, let the people be heard. Then he can say he's following the will of the people."

Yeah, right. As in "POWER TO THE PEOPLE!"

19 posted on 09/09/2005 12:43:04 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: SmithL

"Stunned by the announcement, Leno . . ."

I call BS. I heard Leno the morning after the vote interviewed on the Armstrong & Getty show. He said there was a 50-50 chance that Arnold would sign the bill. Why would he then be "stunned" that he didn't?

Could he be a liar?


20 posted on 09/09/2005 12:47:48 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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