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BACKTRACKING (TIME source backtracking on comments re: Brown's resume)
NRO ^ | 9/9/05 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 09/09/2005 10:44:29 AM PDT by frankjr

Some of Time's sources are revising and extending their remarks. An excerpt:

Claudia Deakins, Edmond's director of marketing and public relations, was quoted in the Time article as saying that Brown was not a manager but more like an intern. Brown was assistant to the city manager in Edmond from 1977-80.

However, this morning, Deakins disputes Time's quotes attributed to her.

"I spoke with two reporters from Time Magazine Thursday. I answered questions about the City of Edmond, the organizational structure and role of the city manager and his staff. My comments were in the context of the organization as it functions today. I explained that my employment with the city of Edmond began in 1997, several years after Michael D. Brown's employment by the city and that I could not speak to the specifics of the organizational structure as it was during that time. I also explained that I could not I speak to the details of Mr. Brown's role within the organization.

"The only people who can speak with authority with regard to Mr. Brown's position in the organization are those who were at the City of Edmond during that time and worked with Mr. Brown, such as the city manager or members of the city council.

"I regret any misunderstanding that may have occurred as a result of my comments."


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: correction; fema; katrina; mediabias; mikebrown; timemag
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Mmmm, imagine that, TIME misquoting sources.
1 posted on 09/09/2005 10:44:34 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: frankjr
So they ran with a story from a source who was even employed with the city at the time of Brown's employment.

This was reckless reporting.

2 posted on 09/09/2005 10:46:55 AM PDT by Dog ( We haven't forgotten you Capt. Michael Speicher)
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To: Dog

WASN'T EMPLOYED.


3 posted on 09/09/2005 10:47:22 AM PDT by Dog ( We haven't forgotten you Capt. Michael Speicher)
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To: frankjr

As a FOX news commentator pointed out, Mike Brown oversaw FEMA's efforts in four hurricanes last year and received mostly praise for his work.


4 posted on 09/09/2005 10:47:42 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: frankjr

I knew something was up with that Edmond story...for some reason it just did not sit right with me.....


5 posted on 09/09/2005 10:48:11 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: frankjr
Time just smeared mud all over itself for nothing.
6 posted on 09/09/2005 10:48:42 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Dog

I knew Jason Blair would show up again.


7 posted on 09/09/2005 10:48:53 AM PDT by Blessed
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To: yellowdoghunter; Howlin; Mo1; Miss Marple

Rathergate all over again.


8 posted on 09/09/2005 10:49:09 AM PDT by Dog ( We haven't forgotten you Capt. Michael Speicher)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
As a FOX news commentator pointed out, Mike Brown oversaw FEMA's efforts in four hurricanes last year and received mostly praise for his work.

That can't be repeated enough. I think it was a mistake for Bush to cave to the press.

9 posted on 09/09/2005 10:49:36 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

"As a FOX news commentator pointed out, Mike Brown oversaw FEMA's efforts in four hurricanes last year and received mostly praise for his work."

I agree that is probably true. And Brown probably did as best he could for Katrina and response may not have been any different than for earlier hurricanes. However, Katrina was probably the biggest disaster in U.S. history. Brown keeps Director job (for now), he is just not leading the Katrina rebuilding efforts. It is a huge job going forward and Bush is putting the best person is place for now.


10 posted on 09/09/2005 10:51:00 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: frankjr
Hmmm. Did they also source this through a Kinko's in Texas?
11 posted on 09/09/2005 10:51:00 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: Dog
The long knives are out for Brown and he's screwed no matter what. He has shot himself in the foot. I don't think he deserves quite the amount of scorn be heaped on him, but that's because I understand FEMA's role--unlike the media.

I can't wait till reporters start digging into Nagin and Blanco. Still waiting......Still waiting.....

12 posted on 09/09/2005 10:51:14 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Dog

When I was growing up, my Dad wouldn't allow Time in our house. Nothing has changed in 40 years.


13 posted on 09/09/2005 10:51:17 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Dog

"Rathergate all over again."

Well, we can all get some pleasure from knowing that for the past week, Gunga Dan has been sitting in the dark in his home punching the wall over and over because he does not get to cover Katrina.


14 posted on 09/09/2005 10:53:12 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: Callahan

Time used a source who didn't work for the city when Brown was there...


15 posted on 09/09/2005 10:53:34 AM PDT by Dog ( We haven't forgotten you Capt. Michael Speicher)
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To: frankjr

Misquoting? Or maybe just "making it up out of wholecloth"?


16 posted on 09/09/2005 10:54:36 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Problem was that Brown was being crucified by media and becoming the face of the government. The press was not concentrating on any other story accept Brown. Brown was actually becoming a major distraction from the recovery effort.

Very unfair and not deserved but it is what it is.

I don't even know where to go anymore to complain. I just got hung up on by ABC Newsroom when asked why they don't report on the State of LA not letting in the Red Cross. The hurricane is only about Bush and Brown.

ABC Newsroom - 1-212-456-3742


17 posted on 09/09/2005 10:55:06 AM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: bonfire

"my Dad wouldn't allow Time in our house"

And consequently, none of you ever got any older. :)


18 posted on 09/09/2005 10:55:10 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: Brad from Tennessee
How odd the press over look his previous work in the aftermath of hurricanes. /sarcasm

OTOH, I have heard very negative comments about Brown from officials in Florida in regards to his managing those disasters.

19 posted on 09/09/2005 10:55:10 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (( ))
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To: Pessimist

badabing!


20 posted on 09/09/2005 10:55:35 AM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Dog
This was reckless reporting.

Journalists are lazy and sloppy.

21 posted on 09/09/2005 10:55:42 AM PDT by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: frankjr
Brown keeps Director job (for now), he is just not leading the Katrina rebuilding efforts. It is a huge job going forward and Bush is putting the best person is place for now.

Thanks for that clarification. If that is the case, I think that is a smart move by Pres. Bush...never know what may happen tomorrow or the next day.

22 posted on 09/09/2005 10:55:42 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: YaYa123; McGruff

Ping


23 posted on 09/09/2005 10:55:59 AM PDT by Springman
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To: Dog; Soul Seeker; kcvl

Dog ... we figured this out last night that this story was BS


I can't tell you how PO'd I am about all this



CNN reporting FEMA Director Michael Brown online biography contains false information
wwl.tv ^ | 9/7/05 | wwltv



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1480706/posts


24 posted on 09/09/2005 10:56:03 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: frankjr

Oops, the knee-jerkers are left with their tails between their legs again.


25 posted on 09/09/2005 10:56:08 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mo1

If ONLY the media has been half as interested in the Clinton appointees as they are in this one man.


26 posted on 09/09/2005 10:57:15 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Republican Red
Very unfair and not deserved but it is what it is.

Very true....once again the media ruins the reputation of an honorable and decent man.

27 posted on 09/09/2005 10:57:40 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: GOP_1900AD

Will you still say that removing Brown was "harsh and correct"?

I hope not. Turns out this may have been another of those "fake but accurate" reports the MSM is so fond of.


28 posted on 09/09/2005 10:58:54 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Trust but Verify
OTOH, I have heard very negative comments about Brown from officials in Florida in regards to his managing those disasters

It''s actually a thankless job. His 'customers" are people that are traumatized and utterly devastated. They are concerned with "what can you do for me yesterday"? When your life is on hold you are not about to take it calmly when told that you must wait for help.
29 posted on 09/09/2005 10:58:57 AM PDT by Republican Red (''Van der Sloot" is Dutch for ''Kennedy.")
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To: yellowdoghunter

" Thanks for that clarification."

That was my take. Don't rely on me too much...I am about as good as a TIME source. Chertoff is have a news conf shortly, so we should be getting more info soon.


30 posted on 09/09/2005 10:59:26 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: Trust but Verify

Could you post some links to the negative quotes? I have not read them.

Thanks!


31 posted on 09/09/2005 10:59:55 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: frankjr

Michelle Malkin put it just right:

"Now is not the time to give a weak performer the benefit of the doubt"


32 posted on 09/09/2005 11:00:19 AM PDT by bigbob (2)
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To: Dog
This was reckless reporting

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT

The Today show with Joe Scarsbough was riiping Brown about this today

News Presser on Now

33 posted on 09/09/2005 11:00:33 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: frankjr

Heh, check out my comment (post 2) on the thread on the original story. How'd I know?


34 posted on 09/09/2005 11:00:40 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. - Patrick Henry)
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To: frankjr
I am about as good as a TIME source.

That witty reply is one of the reason I love FR....always a funny remark to be had or a witty observation to be made....:)

I will wait and see what Chertoff has to say.....

35 posted on 09/09/2005 11:01:14 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

4 last year and 2 already this year (Dennis and Katrina's first strke in Florida). The guy has dealt with 6 hurricanes in just over 12 months with a full-time staff of 2600 people.


36 posted on 09/09/2005 11:01:43 AM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *asses)
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To: yellowdoghunter
LOL, and some here think that this will solve any FEMA problems? Hilarious.

The MSM reports only the bureaucracy problems when a Republican is Pres.
37 posted on 09/09/2005 11:02:10 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: frankjr

DemocRAT girlymen would have never sacrificed one of their people like this. Blanko and Nagin are home free. I'm ashamed of the party I'm affiliated with. Like their Al Qaeda mentors, the DemocRATS and their toadies in the Leftist "media" wanted somebody's head to roll. The GOP gave it to them. The ditz on FOX news channel is having an orgasm over this she's so excited. Disgusting. FNC also declared that we all should have listened to Hillary when "she fought so hard" to keep FEMA as an independent agency. Looks like FNC is trying to become Hillary 2008 Campaign Headquarters.


38 posted on 09/09/2005 11:02:48 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Google: 09-11-01.)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Chertoff says now moving from initial reaction phase to next phase. Wants Brown to administer FEMA nationally for normal ongoing emergency monitoring. For new phase of Katrina will have Vice Admiral leading it.

He is praising Brown's work so far and the workers of FEMA.

Again, this is more of entering the rebuilding phase and putting the best person in charge. However, we know how Dims will spin it. But at least Brown was not canned. And Katrina investigation begins, Brown may take heat, but local and state should feel much much more heat.


39 posted on 09/09/2005 11:04:05 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: frankjr
Two reporters phone the current director of public relations about an employee from twenty years ago, quote her, call her a "source" and fail to back up their "facts".
40 posted on 09/09/2005 11:04:41 AM PDT by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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To: frankjr

Thank you....great reporting.....even better than TIME. :)


41 posted on 09/09/2005 11:05:11 AM PDT by yellowdoghunter (Liberals should be seen and not heard.)
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To: Mo1

Yet it's all over "Paul Harvey" segment today....so, it's not just Time. The media machine keeps repeating inaccuracies long enough until everyone believes it. Then their retractions are on page 12 of section D - or worse, non-existent. I hate them.


42 posted on 09/09/2005 11:06:33 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
I hate them.

Me too!!

I am ticked about this

43 posted on 09/09/2005 11:08:32 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: yellowdoghunter

Well, Chris Wallace just blew my spin apart.


44 posted on 09/09/2005 11:12:31 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: frankjr

Again this clearly illustrates that a ‘Ten day background check’ should be applied to the first amendment also!!!


45 posted on 09/09/2005 11:13:24 AM PDT by PushinTin
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To: yellowdoghunter

But wait, Chris Wallace just also repeated the (potentially) bogus claims from this TIME story. Maybe Chris's dad gave him his talking points for the day.


46 posted on 09/09/2005 11:14:29 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: yellowdoghunter

Chris Wallace is still reporting this as true from Time


47 posted on 09/09/2005 11:14:56 AM PDT by navysealdad
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To: frankjr

Chris Walace just reported the dang lie for the Time Article


48 posted on 09/09/2005 11:15:18 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: bonfire

When I was growing up, my Dad wouldn't allow Time in our house. Nothing has changed in 40 years.

My Dad did, but when he got fed up with them he cancelled. That did not stop them from sending it. Finally he went to Time HQ and told the circulation manager to stop sending him their GD magazine. Or so he told me once, years ago.


49 posted on 09/09/2005 11:15:37 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux ("I'll have the moo goo gai pan without the pan, and some pans.")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Actually reviews of FEMAs work in general are mixed for last year. Mostly there is a lot of criticism for massive overpayments.
I was reminded today that a bunch of people raised a fuss when Jeb Bush was appointed to a task force for tsunami relief and recovery, instead of Mike Brown. It sounded familiar and I'm trying to find some documentation of that. Just scratching my head for the right words to use in google.


50 posted on 09/09/2005 11:17:40 AM PDT by elc
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