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Fewer Bodies Than Expected Found in Sweeps
AP ^ | September 9, 2005 | DON BABWIN

Posted on 09/09/2005 11:05:16 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

Authorities said Friday that their first systematic sweep of the city found far fewer bodies than expected, suggesting that Hurricane Katrina's death toll may not be the catastrophic 10,000 feared.

"I think there's some encouragement in what we've found in the initial sweeps that some of the catastrophic deaths that some people predicted may not have occurred," said Terry Ebbert, New Orleans' homeland security chief.

Ebbert declined to give a new estimate of the dead.

Authorities turned their attention to counting and removing the dead in a grid-by-grid search of the city after spending days cajoling, persuading and all but strong-arming the living into leaving the shattered city because of the danger of fires and disease from the filthy, corpse-laden floodwaters.

"Numbers so far are relatively minor as compared to the dire projections of 10,000," Ebbert said.

Mayor Ray Nagin had suggested over the weekend that the death toll could climb that high, and authorities ordered 25,000 body bags as they started gathering up the dead across a landscape awash in corpses.

Separately, Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell, commanding general of 82nd Airborne Division, said the last of the bodies at the convention center would be taken out on Friday. Thousands of people took shelter there after the hurricane for days with little or no food or water, in what became an increasingly chaotic and violent situation.

In a small sign of progress, authorities said the New Orleans airport will reopen to commercial flights on Sept. 19. Caldwell said water and power are functioning at the airport.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: katrina; neworleans
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1 posted on 09/09/2005 11:05:17 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

>>In a small sign of progress, authorities said the New Orleans airport will reopen to commercial flights on Sept. 19<<

"Miss, is there something you're not telling us?"
"Yes, we're out of coffee."


2 posted on 09/09/2005 11:06:57 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

>> In a small sign of progress, authorities said the New Orleans airport will reopen to commercial flights on Sept. 19. Caldwell said water and power are functioning at the airport. <<

Umm, come to think of it: I guess that means the evacuation is off?


3 posted on 09/09/2005 11:07:36 AM PDT by dangus
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To: West Coast Conservative
DIMS: "WE TOLD YOU NAGIN AND BLANCO WERE SAINTS!"

OR

DIMS: "This has nothing to do with BUSH"

4 posted on 09/09/2005 11:08:04 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Hopefully it stays this way. I worry because the deepest parts have not been drained yet. Are those houses also part of the sweeps? Checking attics?

Still this is very good news indeed if it shows the trend.


5 posted on 09/09/2005 11:08:07 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: West Coast Conservative

...said the last of the bodies at the convention center would be taken out on Friday. ....

They are still there???????????????????????


6 posted on 09/09/2005 11:08:55 AM PDT by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I predict that total body count will be <1000

They were estimating 30,000 on 9/11.


7 posted on 09/09/2005 11:09:24 AM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: dangus

Waiting for Major Owens to claim that 20,000 blacks were eaten by sharks in the Gulf after Katrina washed them away.


8 posted on 09/09/2005 11:09:33 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: West Coast Conservative

they sound disappointed.


9 posted on 09/09/2005 11:14:57 AM PDT by IrishGOP
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To: Alouette

I've been saying the same thing for days, less than 1,000. Even though the media isn't allowed (for now) to show the bodies, there would have been stories all over about the massive numbers of bodies. It's all BS, the higher the number, the more it tarnishes Bush and the GOP. How disgraceful!


10 posted on 09/09/2005 11:15:30 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: dfwgator
On DU, they are already congratulating each other on how smart they are, because only they have figured out that the Bush Administration is just going to hide all the bodies.

I guess the condescending paternalistic scumbags over there believe that poor black people don't bother to notice when their relatives just disappear into thin air.

When they don't get a death certificate or collect on any insurance for their disappeared relatives, they'll just shrug and do nothing, unless some caring white liberal flies down from New England and explains the world to them.

11 posted on 09/09/2005 11:15:31 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dangus
"Umm, come to think of it: I guess that means the evacuation is off?"

No. They are kicking them out, right down to the old ladies that took the 'cane by the balls. The airport's just going to open for clown Nagin's good buddies to come in to split up the spoils.

12 posted on 09/09/2005 11:16:40 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: Alouette

What about the buildings still underwater?


13 posted on 09/09/2005 11:16:52 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I posted a week ago that I predict as many dead as one thousand, Not near what the incompetent Mayor predicts. Probably a few more in Mississippi and Alabama .


14 posted on 09/09/2005 11:16:59 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: West Coast Conservative

Michael Brown's fault!


15 posted on 09/09/2005 11:17:01 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: West Coast Conservative

And in a related story:

N.O Alligators demand immediate shipment of Alka-Seltzer.


16 posted on 09/09/2005 11:24:01 AM PDT by Pessimist
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To: dead

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. . . the Bush Administration is just going to hide all the bodies.
<<

Dumb ole DUmmies! We all know Bush and Cheney love a hearty stew made from poor dead black people's bodies. They aren't hiding anything.


17 posted on 09/09/2005 11:24:33 AM PDT by noblejones
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What?? No zombie stories to blame on Bush?


18 posted on 09/09/2005 11:26:18 AM PDT by Cougar66 (The only liberal movement is what's in their diapers. .)
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To: West Coast Conservative
No bodies, just "content-lookin' an' fat" gators, yes?
19 posted on 09/09/2005 11:26:34 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I sure hope this is true. There were still too many deaths at the Superdome.


20 posted on 09/09/2005 11:29:48 AM PDT by tiki
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To: West Coast Conservative

This has to be very disappointing news to the 'RATS and their toadies in the Liberal "media." We may need to put the NYT and WaPo on suicide watch.


21 posted on 09/09/2005 11:30:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Google: 09-11-01.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
SO all this hysteria was for what?

I mean, I understand it is not comfortable waiting on an bridge a few days to be rescued.
I grew up on the water and had to leave via a boat several times as a kid when a bad storm hit. However, there does not appear to be the hundred of deaths caused by lack of food and water and flooding as suspected at first.

That means most people either left before the hurricane hit or they were rescued.

Now can people calm down with all the "OMG! WHY! WHY!"

sheesh.
23 posted on 09/09/2005 11:40:56 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: FlingWingFlyer

dont for get nancy"i need more make-up" pelosi.......she will blame every death on "w'.....where is the spineless gop?????? anybody out there ????


24 posted on 09/09/2005 11:43:28 AM PDT by fatteddy
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To: West Coast Conservative
New Orleans airport will reopen to commercial flights on Sept. 19

Very peculiar things going on down there. Mandatory evac was illegal before the hurricane, before the flood; but it's fine and dandy now. Cops are getting vacations in Vegas while someone else confiscates weapons from homeowners who will later be forcibly evacuated. Commercial flights will resume in about a week, yet nobody can LIVE there, so what's with the commerce? Hired security may keep guns to protect those who can afford to hire them. Reporters may stay, as long as they make no trouble, but not residents. It really looks like the President is giving them enough rope to hang themselves, but in the process they're hurting the people, the law, the respect for the law; and the President's reputation is being tarnished while the Democrats' stock is rising.

25 posted on 09/09/2005 11:45:41 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: West Coast Conservative

Are they searching inside the homes, or just counting the floaters in the streets?


26 posted on 09/09/2005 11:45:55 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: NYC Republican

I've been saying the exact same thing.


27 posted on 09/09/2005 11:47:19 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: shanscom
New Orleans International Airport...probably be safe to maneuver in and out of there at least for flights by that time.

What for? No residents, no businesses.
I take it there'll only be flights to and from Las Vegas?

28 posted on 09/09/2005 11:50:31 AM PDT by Graymatter
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To: West Coast Conservative
authorities said the New Orleans airport will reopen to commercial flights on Sept. 19.

Ummm, am I missing something? Who wants to go there right now?????

29 posted on 09/09/2005 11:51:55 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Greyhound Ray must have been sandbagging (pun definitely intended) with that 10,000 number...


30 posted on 09/09/2005 11:52:36 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: dangus

MSM must be deeply saddened.

I heard a rumor that things were so "normal" at the Astrodome the reporters started going into the line and saying stuff like "did you hear what that dude behind you just said about your girl?" to see if they could raise a little ire for the cameras.

/kidding
//sorta


31 posted on 09/09/2005 11:53:56 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: tiki

How many deaths were there at the Superdome? I didn't see a number anywhere.

I read somewhere that they found 12 dead bodies at the convention center, but I never saw a number for the superdome, and I don't know whether the number for the convention center was accurate.


32 posted on 09/09/2005 11:57:13 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: conservativehusker

Yes, they are still there. What is your point?


33 posted on 09/09/2005 12:02:00 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Dog Gone

They are searching inside the houses. After each house is searched, they are marked if they have a body inside or that it was searched and no one was found.

When the time comes to collect the bodies, most of the houses have already been identified.

They don't have enough refrigerator trucks or coroners yet to do identification. That time will come.


34 posted on 09/09/2005 12:05:18 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Numbers so far are relatively minor as compared to the dire projections of 10,000," Ebbert said.

I'm sticking with my initial prediction of around 2500 in NOLA. Someone else suggested 25000, but I doubt it will get that high.

35 posted on 09/09/2005 12:05:25 PM PDT by konaice
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To: Dog Gone
Are they searching inside the homes, or just counting the floaters in the streets?



Hmm Good question. Either way I am sure the total will amount to a few of hundred at most, not thousands.


I bet if the dead have autopsy's performed all but a small handful will have died from the hurricane and not lack of food and water.

Again...all this hysteria was about what really?
The hurricane is an act of nature, a weather event no man can control.
The people were left a little too long without help and there is no denying that, but lets face it. If the people who were left in NO would have behaved themselves a little better this story would not have been what it is now.
When the looting and shooting and the people screaming at the TV cameras started..then I knew the country was in for the news version of the Jerry Springer show. JMO
36 posted on 09/09/2005 12:07:49 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: BushisTheMan
I thought the reason things where so bad in the Superdome was lack of electricity...I expected the bodies would be hauled out to those freezer trucks...
37 posted on 09/09/2005 12:09:12 PM PDT by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: dead

ROFL


38 posted on 09/09/2005 12:09:20 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: kinghorse

1000 - didn't Cammile kill 3000?

Yep - press won't like that. Takes some of the wind out of their sails


39 posted on 09/09/2005 12:09:28 PM PDT by Glacier Honey
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To: snarkytart
Are they searching inside the homes, or just counting the floaters in the streets?

They've done a grid search of some of the flooded zones, and this includes looking inside homes. They've found plenty of roofs with holes cut in them, where people used axes to escape their attics. They haven't found many bodies. But they haven't searched the neighborhoods that were flooded first; where the flooding was worst.

Has anyone seen anything like an estimate of missing persons (lists of names of persons unaccounted for)?

40 posted on 09/09/2005 12:12:03 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: frogjerk

Brown secretly moved the bodies out in order to save face.

None of these dead folks will miss their next opportunity to vote for Nagin or Blanco, however.


41 posted on 09/09/2005 12:13:09 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Liberalism is an ill fated luxury that we cannot afford at this time; it does not work in a crisis.)
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To: Alouette
I predict that total body count will be <1000

It'll be less than predicted. It's common to overestimate. After hurricane Charlie last year some said there were bodies stacked up on the trailer parks. It never happened.

42 posted on 09/09/2005 12:13:31 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Thank God for that. :-/

I assume by "sweeps" they are referring to what is plainly visable street-to-street. I'm fearful of what will be found when houses are entered.

Hoping for the best,
-U.

43 posted on 09/09/2005 12:14:48 PM PDT by Unsh8kableFaith
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To: Glacier Honey
1000 - didn't Cammile kill 3000?

The official death toll from Camille was 256, if memory serves. The present storm has already exceeded this. I've been afraid that a lot of people died in houses that "survived Camille". I hope that's not correct, and the latest information is that perhaps the death toll will be hundreds not thousands, outside of New Orleans.

44 posted on 09/09/2005 12:14:59 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: West Coast Conservative

NOOOO?? You don't say?

Let's hope that the number stays lower than $1000 and I bet it will.


45 posted on 09/09/2005 12:18:34 PM PDT by Halls (Terri Schindler Schiavo was murdered legally in our country, NEVER FORGET!!!)
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To: Graymatter

Very peculiar things going on down there. Mandatory evac was illegal before the hurricane, before the flood; but it's fine and dandy now. Cops are getting vacations in Vegas while someone else confiscates weapons from homeowners who will later be forcibly evacuated. Commercial flights will resume in about a week, yet nobody can LIVE there, so what's with the commerce? Hired security may keep guns to protect those who can afford to hire them. Reporters may stay, as long as they make no trouble, but not residents. It really looks like the President is giving them enough rope to hang themselves, but in the process they're hurting the people, the law, the respect for the law; and the President's reputation is being tarnished while the Democrats' stock is rising"

WHERE IS THE FED DA OF NO?????




46 posted on 09/09/2005 12:32:37 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: West Coast Conservative
SOFLOFREEPER SAID 3 DAYS AGO:
"Call me a cautious (optimistic) skeptic, but I am beginning to doubt whether there are really 10,000 dead in New Orleans. I bet the number is much lower than that."

source: Israeli Divers Thread on FR

47 posted on 09/09/2005 12:33:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: CharlesWayneCT

"How many deaths were there at the Superdome?"

None - they had better NG presence and food/water


48 posted on 09/09/2005 12:33:52 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: konaice

see post 47.


49 posted on 09/09/2005 12:34:03 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: spanalot
None - they had better NG presence and food/water

Do you have a definitive source for that NONE claim?

50 posted on 09/09/2005 12:35:47 PM PDT by konaice
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