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Liar, Liar, Resume on Fire! [FEMA Director gets "thrown under the bus"]
PunditGuy ^ | September 9, 2005

Posted on 09/09/2005 12:07:04 PM PDT by John Jorsett

FEMA head Michael Brown has had a tough couple of weeks. Politicians are in front of cameras calling for his resignation, petitions are being signed for his removal, bloggers want him to assume room temperature, and the talking heads on cable repeat his name no less than 30 times in an hour.

And if you think things can't simply get any worse for this man, think again.

A TIME investigation reveals discrepancies in the FEMA chief's official biographies

TIME has found discrepancies in his online legal profile and official bio, including a description of Brown released by the White House at the time of his nomination in 2001 to the job as deputy chief of FEMA.

And just what are those discrepancies?

Michael Brown has been officially 'thrown under the bus'.

But even if he did 'fudge' a little on his credentials, he's not the only one who has made themselves out to be something they're not.

Lying about military records have been a favorite among cheaters, particularly because no one wants to challenge the honor of someone who fought to defend our country.

Executives at major corporations have been embroiled in scandals by misstating earnings, taking kickbacks, and...lying on their resumes.

Know someone with a degree from Columbia State University? It's probably a fake, federal authorities say.

And it doesn't end there. A review of 2.6 million job applications in 2002 revealed that 44% contained a lie or two.

Wondering what the most common resume lie is? Compensation, job tenure, and reasons for leaving your last job.

What does your resume look like?

UPDATE: Recalled


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: checkthefacts; fema; katrina; michaelbrown; sucker; timemag; timemisquote; timesucks
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1 posted on 09/09/2005 12:07:05 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

The TIME stuff is bogus...


2 posted on 09/09/2005 12:09:20 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: John Jorsett

Didn't I just read on another thread that lady said she was misquoted?


3 posted on 09/09/2005 12:10:12 PM PDT by hawkaw
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To: John Jorsett
Claudia Deakins, head of public relations for the city of Edmond, Brown was an "assistant to the city manager" from 1977 to 1980, not a manager himself, and had no authority over other employees. "The assistant is more like an intern," she told TIME. "Department heads did not report to him."

Back tracking on this today. Said she never said that.

4 posted on 09/09/2005 12:10:49 PM PDT by MNJohnnie
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To: John Jorsett
But even if he did 'fudge' a little on his credentials, he's not the only one who has made themselves out to be something they're not.

That's the same excuse making libs make.  Reminds me of little kids . . . "Johnny does it!"  And Democrats, "Its only sex!"

Don't know whether or not Brown is a political casualty or someone in need of replacement, but in this day and age, he gets a prize for stupid.

Must have taken a whole couple hours to fact check that resume.

5 posted on 09/09/2005 12:13:52 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: John Jorsett

I don't believe President Bush would have removed Brown without cause. President Bush is too loyal to do that.


6 posted on 09/09/2005 12:13:59 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: John Jorsett
discrepancies in the FEMA chief's official biographies

So? Didn't make any difference for Ward Churchill.

7 posted on 09/09/2005 12:14:08 PM PDT by American Quilter
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To: John Jorsett
Time is now pulling a Rosanne Rosanna Danna. "Nevermind."

Unfortunately, the damage they set out to do has already been done. Scumbags.

8 posted on 09/09/2005 12:14:27 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Google: 09-11-01.)
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To: John Jorsett
he lists "Outstanding Political Science Professor, Central State University". However, Brown "wasn't a professor here, he was only a student here," says Charles Johnson, News Bureau Director in the University Relations office at the University of Central Oklahoma (formerly named Central State University). "He may have been an adjunct instructor," says Johnson, but that title is very different from that of "professor."

This sounds like a student-vote award, which probably was named that, and used the term "professor" generically, as college students often do, to refer to anyone teaching a course at the college.

The nursing home thing is weird and needs explaining. The other two aren't worth discussing.

9 posted on 09/09/2005 12:16:04 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: John Jorsett
What does your resume look like?

It looks like reality. If the guy lied, I'm not going to defend him just because he's a Republican. Get a conscience!

10 posted on 09/09/2005 12:16:04 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: MNJohnnie

His resume puts him there before her, she said that as well. Also others are pointing out that assistants to managers are people who do work, and people remember him doing work on emergency planning.

So this part of his "fake" resume has been pretty much put to bed.

The stuff about his college part of his resume also seems to have taken a beating.

About the only part of the story which hasn't been directly refuted yet was his listing himself as a directort of some nursing home. Have no idea why he would lie about that, so I am presuming that will turn out to be false as well.


11 posted on 09/09/2005 12:16:11 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I think Brown's quote sums it up

"Asked if he was being made a scapegoat for a federal relief effort that has drawn widespread and sharp criticism, Brown told The Associated Press after a long pause: "By the press, yes. By the president, No.""


12 posted on 09/09/2005 12:17:28 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: American Quilter
Didn't make any difference for Ward Churchill.

True.

Since we're wallowing in sh!t, what's up with the ol' Wardster? Now would be the perfect time for CU to finally slap him on the hand and put their "investigation" to bed. They have, after all, been waiting until no one's looking. Worked for Sandy Burglar.

13 posted on 09/09/2005 12:17:28 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: gondramB

He was taken out of the line of fire. Bush is too loyal to allow his faithful people to get slammed without cause.


14 posted on 09/09/2005 12:19:19 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming

"He was taken out of the line of fire. Bush is too loyal to allow his faithful people to get slammed without cause."


I don't know about that.... Lots of Bush loyalists have taken unfair fire over an extended period of time.

If Brown was doing a first class job at FEMA I can't believe President Bush would remove him at this critical time because of press criticism.


15 posted on 09/09/2005 12:21:47 PM PDT by gondramB
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To: John Jorsett
Source for Time's Hit Piece on Brown Disputes Quotes Attributed to Her

Some of Time's sources are revising and extending their remarks. An excerpt: Claudia Deakins, Edmond's director of marketing and public relations, was quoted in the Time article as saying that Brown was not a manager but more like an intern. Brown was assistant to the city manager in Edmond from 1977-80. However, this morning, Deakins disputes Time's quotes attributed to her.

I spoke with two reporters from Time Magazine Thursday. I answered questions about the City of Edmond, the organizational structure and role of the city manager and his staff. My comments were in the context of the organization as it functions today. I explained that my employment with the city of Edmond began in 1997, several years after Michael D. Brown's employment by the city and that I could not speak to the specifics of the organizational structure as it was during that time. I also explained that I could not I speak to the details of Mr. Brown's role within the organization.

The only people who can speak with authority with regard to Mr. Brown's position in the organization are those who were at the City of Edmond during that time and worked with Mr. Brown, such as the city manager or members of the city council.

I regret any misunderstanding that may have occurred as a result of my comments.

End of Quote

Source: NRO (The Corner - 1:17PM)

17 posted on 09/09/2005 12:22:19 PM PDT by Stajack
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To: gondramB
If Brown was doing a first class job at FEMA I can't believe President Bush would remove him at this critical time because of press criticism.

He's still in the job the president appointed him to.

18 posted on 09/09/2005 12:23:50 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: gondramB
Lots of Bush loyalists have taken unfair fire

Of course. What's your point? Brown also is taking unfair fire. His continued presence in NO will keep the fire going.

Bush took him out of the fire so the politicos would no longer have a target. However, Bush knows the attack is undeserved. Therefore, Brown is retained in his job as national administrator of FEMA. Better Brown is in DC if another disaster hits elsewhere in the country. He has a big responsibility.

Now James Lee Witt and Hitlery no longer have a target. They will have to concentrate on NO itself.

19 posted on 09/09/2005 12:26:59 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: John Jorsett

Doesn't anyone check these people out before they are hired?
What we must look like to the world. The great Superpower brought to their knees because of a hurricane.


20 posted on 09/09/2005 12:27:33 PM PDT by stopem
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To: John Jorsett

Bush got rid of a guy who apparently failed -- but only slightly. He's cleared the decks for the hose down that will wash Nagin and Blanco out to sea.


21 posted on 09/09/2005 12:29:37 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

That is not what is being reported on CNN , FOX, MSNBC
there is nothing made up about any of this. He is about to resign and he should.


22 posted on 09/09/2005 12:29:50 PM PDT by stopem
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To: John Jorsett

Wonderhow they felt about the Democrat Governor of NJ appointing his GAY LOVER as head of thr states Homeland Security Office

They really covered that story


23 posted on 09/09/2005 12:31:16 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: stopem; CharlesWayneCT
That is not what is being reported on CNN , FOX, MSNBC there is nothing made up about any of this. He is about to resign and he should.

Nothing close to that is being REPORTED on CNN, Fox, and MSNBC.

That's all wishful thinking, utter rubbish, and just plain out and out lies.

I'm surprised you fell for it.

24 posted on 09/09/2005 12:31:54 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: frogjerk

I hope he sues TIME for libel.


25 posted on 09/09/2005 12:32:21 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: John Jorsett
Here's a little more from another source.....
1. FindLaw web site bio: "It said he was a professor at Central State University in political science. We called Central State (now known as the University of Central Oklahoma, in Edmund). They said he had never been a professor there, that he had been a student. … But his FindLaw bio says he had been an outstanding professor in political science." [FEMA has issued a statement challenging Time's findings. It reads in part, "Time's misleading online report on Undersecretary Mike Brown's background is based on online information Mr. Brown has never seen. The Web site used as a primary source by the magazine states clearly: 'We try to provide quality information but we make no claims, promises, or guarantees about the accuracy.' ... It's disappointing this magazine relied on unconfirmed information."]

2. "His bio, the White House press release, and a number of sources list him as assistant city manager in Edmund, Okla.," Miranda says. " When we called the folks in Edmund, they told us that, no, his position in fact had been assistant to the city manager, which is a purely administrative job, a very different job. He was an administrative assistant. It's sort of an entry-level, intern-type job for somebody who's interested in learning about government. …When he began that job in 1977, he was still a college student. He didn't graduate with his B.A. until 1978."

Click


26 posted on 09/09/2005 12:35:05 PM PDT by deport
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To: Rumsfeld is a Genius; Howlin
Since Sep 9, 2005

Don't get too comfortable, you will not be here long.

Seems your side lied again.

Source for Time's Hit Piece on Brown Disputes Quotes Attributed to Her Some of Time's sources are revising and extending their remarks. An excerpt: Claudia Deakins, Edmond's director of marketing and public relations, was quoted in the Time article as saying that Brown was not a manager but more like an intern. Brown was assistant to the city manager in Edmond from 1977-80. However, this morning, Deakins disputes Time's quotes attributed to her. I spoke with two reporters from Time Magazine Thursday. I answered questions about the City of Edmond, the organizational structure and role of the city manager and his staff. My comments were in the context of the organization as it functions today. I explained that my employment with the city of Edmond began in 1997, several years after Michael D. Brown's employment by the city and that I could not speak to the specifics of the organizational structure as it was during that time. I also explained that I could not I speak to the details of Mr. Brown's role within the organization. The only people who can speak with authority with regard to Mr. Brown's position in the organization are those who were at the City of Edmond during that time and worked with Mr. Brown, such as the city manager or members of the city council. I regret any misunderstanding that may have occurred as a result of my comments. End of Quote

27 posted on 09/09/2005 12:38:11 PM PDT by MNJohnnie
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To: stopem
The great Superpower brought to their knees because of a hurricane.

Not by Michael Brown.

28 posted on 09/09/2005 12:39:58 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Siena Dreaming

While Time seems to have been wielding a rusty hatchet, does anyone here really believe that Brown was well qualified for his position, let alone the best that could be found? Kinda like Barney Fife heading up the FBI.Hey - he has law enforcement experience!


29 posted on 09/09/2005 12:40:17 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Rumsfeld is a Genius; Admin Moderator

Troll alert.


30 posted on 09/09/2005 12:40:44 PM PDT by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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To: diogenes ghost

No complaints with the hurricanes last summer. Of course the media was busy with Plame gate.


31 posted on 09/09/2005 12:42:31 PM PDT by listenhillary
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To: John Jorsett
Your post is late. It has been proved false by the very lady who was interviewed by the ragwipe that calls itself a news organization.
32 posted on 09/09/2005 12:43:38 PM PDT by PeteB570
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To: diogenes ghost

Congress thought he was when "They" confirmed him.


33 posted on 09/09/2005 12:44:33 PM PDT by PeteB570
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To: American Quilter

Michael Brown needs to find a Creek ancestor pronto: "I'm proud to be a Muskogee from Central Okie..."


34 posted on 09/09/2005 12:45:12 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: listenhillary

Have you heard of any horrible bombings in Iraq? Could it be because they don't have their cheerleaders there rooting them on?

Seriously tho, have you heard of any horrors there lately?


35 posted on 09/09/2005 12:45:46 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: PeteB570

Just heard on local cable Dallas news. Laura Miller Dallas Mayor is furious, she said that FEMA has not given one cent to help care for all the people that came into the city.

It just gets better and better.


36 posted on 09/09/2005 12:46:40 PM PDT by stopem
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To: diogenes ghost
From FEMA website

Snip...

Under Secretary Brown has led Homeland Security’s response to more than 164 presidentially declared disasters and emergencies, including the 2003 Columbia Shuttle disaster and the California wildfires in 2003. In 2004, Mr. Brown led FEMA’s thousands of dedicated disaster workers during the most active hurricane season in over 100 years, as FEMA delivered aid more quickly and more efficiently than ever before. Previously, Mr. Brown served as FEMA's Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel. Shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks, Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&R Division. Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Brown practiced law in Colorado and Oklahoma, where he served as a bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme Court and as a hearing examiner for the Colorado Supreme Court. He had been appointed as a special prosecutor in police disciplinary matters. While attending law school he was appointed by the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee of the Oklahoma Legislature as the Finance Committee Staff Director, where he oversaw state fiscal issues. His background in state and local government also includes serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight and as a city councilman. Mr. Brown was also an adjunct professor of law for the Oklahoma City University. A native of Oklahoma, Mr. Brown holds a bachelor's degree in Public Administration/Political Science from Central State University, Oklahoma. He received his J.D. from Oklahoma City University’s School of Law

Either Brown or the Dinasour Media is lying. Considering all that we have seen in the last year it's a 50-50 chance either way.

37 posted on 09/09/2005 12:46:48 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism- the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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To: John Jorsett

Unfortunately, the damage they set out to do has already been done. Scumbags.



This is what the left (and to a lesser extent the right) ALWAYS does...get it some lies out there and in peoples minds, repeat them over and over via variouis media, then MAYBE make a retraction or correction a couple of weeks later...

They are the masters of overt disinformation.

1984


39 posted on 09/09/2005 12:48:18 PM PDT by Ribeye (Protective headwear courtesy of "Reynolds Aluminum Products - Implant Suppression Division")
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To: MNJohnnie
Either Brown or the Dinasour Media is lying. Considering all that we have seen in the last year it's a 50-50 chance either way

I am going revise my remarks and say its a 25% chance Brown is lying and a 75% chance Time is.

40 posted on 09/09/2005 12:48:59 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism- the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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To: John Jorsett; All
I think we are losing sight of the fact that all these positions...Mayor, Governor, and Director of FEMA...are JOBS.

How do we rate job performance...its not black and white...its a bunch of gray areas too.

Here are some job performance categories I would use...

OUTSTANDING / SUPERIOR
EXCELLENT
VERY GOOD
ABOVE AVERAGE
AVERAGE
BELOW AVERAGE
POOR
TOTAL INCOMPETENCE
WILLFUL NEGLIGENCE

I would rate Nagin and Blanco as total incompetence, maybe even a bit of negligence in the case of Blanco.

I would rate Browns performance as average at best, perhaps below average. He's not totally incompetent, nor did he 'screw up'...hes just not the best choice for a high stakes key position...or so it appears.

Bush needs excellent to outstanding people in ALL key positions to function effectively.
41 posted on 09/09/2005 12:49:32 PM PDT by Dat Mon (still lookin for a good one....tagline)
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To: Rumsfeld is a Genius

Under Secretary Brown has led Homeland Security’s response to more than 164 presidentially declared disasters and emergencies, including the 2003 Columbia Shuttle disaster and the California wildfires in 2003. In 2004, Mr. Brown led FEMA’s thousands of dedicated disaster workers during the most active hurricane season in over 100 years, as FEMA delivered aid more quickly and more efficiently than ever before. Previously, Mr. Brown served as FEMA's Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel. Shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks, Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&R Division. Prior to joining FEMA, Mr. Brown practiced law in Colorado and Oklahoma, where he served as a bar examiner on ethics and professional responsibility for the Oklahoma Supreme Court and as a hearing examiner for the Colorado Supreme Court. He had been appointed as a special prosecutor in police disciplinary matters. While attending law school he was appointed by the Chairman of the Senate Finance Committee of the Oklahoma Legislature as the Finance Committee Staff Director, where he oversaw state fiscal issues. His background in state and local government also includes serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight and as a city councilman. Mr. Brown was also an adjunct professor of law for the Oklahoma City University. A native of Oklahoma, Mr. Brown holds a bachelor's degree in Public Administration/Political Science from Central State University, Oklahoma. He received his J.D. from Oklahoma City University’s School of Law


42 posted on 09/09/2005 12:49:53 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism- the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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To: Rumsfeld is a Genius
uh-oh.....welcome to FR...NOT !
43 posted on 09/09/2005 12:50:32 PM PDT by stylin19a (In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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To: Howlin

IF what was said is true about him what do you think the President should do about it?

Who would you rather see take the fall for all the screwups, our President? I wouldn't.


44 posted on 09/09/2005 12:50:48 PM PDT by stopem
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To: John Jorsett

NOOOOO!!

Don't put the Coast Guard Admiral in charge!!!

It's time to put Jesse Jackson in charge!!!

Then he can fix all of the things he's been criticizing.
He'll have to PRODUCE something for the 1st time in his life!!!!!


45 posted on 09/09/2005 12:51:32 PM PDT by G Larry (Honor the fallen and the heroes of 9/11 at the Memorial Site.)
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To: Rumsfeld is a Genius
the CEO President.</i>

Considering one of his titles IS "Chief Executive" that exactly what he SHOULD be. I guess what you would want is a "Chief Marxist" President. Or maybe The Sexual Hassaser in Chief we had from 1993 to 2001 is more to your tastes?
46 posted on 09/09/2005 12:53:57 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Professional Journalism- the Buggy Whip makers of the 21st century)
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To: Rumsfeld is a Genius

47 posted on 09/09/2005 12:56:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: John Jorsett

Taking one for the team...hope he is getting some nice perks
outta this...

Just being able to make a living somewhere other than DC
and without the snakes who nest there whould be a major one

imo


48 posted on 09/09/2005 12:57:42 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: roses of sharon
"Seriously tho, have you heard of any horrors there lately?"

There has been a massive US offensive over the last 6 weeks rolling up terrorist capabilities. For a while anyway, the terrorist ability to cause harm has been seriously disrupted.

49 posted on 09/09/2005 12:58:59 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Ribeye
Yeah, seems to work pretty good among the intellectual midgets around here, too.

It just kills me that anyone would have the gall to sit around and pass judgment on these people so quickly. I can't remember a single thread from last summer during all those hurricanes that wrecked Florida condemning either FEMA's or Brown's performance. Yet today all the deep thinkers are ready to throw this guy under the bus with a moments notice.

Perhaps more people should keep in mind the old saying of "engage the mind before activating the mouth" (or fingers, in this case)!

50 posted on 09/09/2005 1:00:46 PM PDT by liberty_lvr (Those who stand for nothing fall for anything.)
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