Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Bush Forgives Sandy Berger?
NewsMax.com ^ | Sept. 9, 2005 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 09/09/2005 2:37:36 PM PDT by Carl/NewsMax

If President Bush is upset that former national security advisor Sandy Berger destroyed top secret terrorism documents in a bid to obstruct the 9/11 Commission investigation, he sure has a strange way of showing it.

In June, two months after Berger pled guilty to what some say is the most serious crime ever committed by a senior White House official - Bush invited him to the White House, where, according to the Associated Press, the disgraced former Clinton advisor was trotted out to voice support for CAFTA legislation.

Yesterday D.C. Magistrate Judge Deborah Robinson rejected a plea worked out for Berger by the Bush Justice Department, saying the $10,000 fine and 3-year security suspension arranged by Public Integrity Section chief Noel Hillman was way too lenient.

Robinson quintupled the fine and sentenced Berger to 100 hours of community service, saying that Hillman's recommendation didn't "sufficiently reflect the seriousness of the offense."

President Bush, however, apparently didn't agree. Two months after Mr. Hillman filed the ridiculously light plea bargain, Bush rewarded him with an appointment to the federal bench.

Good thing Judge Robinson's sentence left Mr. Berger's security suspension in place. Otherwise he might be on the short list for FEMA director.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: berger; bush; sandyberger; topsecret
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-109 next last

1 posted on 09/09/2005 2:37:37 PM PDT by Carl/NewsMax
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

It's a strange world we live in, indeed.


2 posted on 09/09/2005 2:38:55 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

Amen to all that.


3 posted on 09/09/2005 2:39:43 PM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
ANOTHER ABSOLUTE INSULT FROM OUR PRESIDENT TO ANYONE WHO STANDS FOR JUSTICE. If that were a Republican he would get 50 years and you would never hear the end of it. It fell off of the radar so fast it was embarrassing even to the New York Slimes standard.
4 posted on 09/09/2005 2:39:47 PM PDT by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

NSA knows where the bodies are buried...among both parties. No way Berger was going to spend time in prison.


5 posted on 09/09/2005 2:40:05 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

I suspect that at that level, everyone knows where every one else's bodies are buried. So unless you are prepared to deliver a knockout punch, its probably best to be polite.


6 posted on 09/09/2005 2:40:54 PM PDT by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

7 posted on 09/09/2005 2:42:07 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Lowell

and with this Katrina stuff now, we will never get to the bottom of Able Danger.


8 posted on 09/09/2005 2:42:39 PM PDT by oceanview
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

Politicians suck. Hasn't anyone inside DC ever heard of doing what is RIGHT for the nation first and foremost?

They'd better learn, and quick. "We the people" have about had our fill of this crap.


9 posted on 09/09/2005 2:44:17 PM PDT by datura (Molon Labe)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

Occam's razor.
They're all on the same team.


10 posted on 09/09/2005 2:45:51 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Yorktown!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

President Bush's refusal to say anything bad about anyone, no matter how richly deserved, puzzles me. Of course, it's not often a good idea to slam people (no matter how hard they're begging for it)--you can too easily end up looking like the bad guy. And, of course, slamming a liberal is risky since they have absolutely no scruples about escalating the situation.

I think President Bush is taking the high road. And he's so genuinely nice himself that he appears to believe most people will respond reasonably to his kindess. Come to think of it, that's a trait he shares with Ronald Reagan.


11 posted on 09/09/2005 2:45:51 PM PDT by American Quilter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

It's all about money and power. Nothing surprises me regarding these elitists anymore.


12 posted on 09/09/2005 2:47:06 PM PDT by afnamvet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: American Quilter

HE can be nice and more effective, like what about a veto!!!


13 posted on 09/09/2005 2:48:12 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: peyton randolph

You know I hadn't put it in that context before now, but with all he knows jail is not a place you would want to put him.

It almost like the 15 year old computer hacker that when cought he was hired by the company whose system he hacked.

They did not want him in jail teaching what he knows to others.


14 posted on 09/09/2005 2:48:52 PM PDT by stockpirate (If you are a John Kerry fan check out my about me page, you'll toss your lunch.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

They all protect there own in order to protect themselves.


15 posted on 09/09/2005 2:51:37 PM PDT by Revel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

This is such Bullshi!t!


16 posted on 09/09/2005 2:52:19 PM PDT by CommieCutter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
He may be the most decent, kind hearted and forgiving man in American Politics today. He isn't about destroying his enemies even as they bring full force to bear in trying to destroy him.
He is a better man than all the democrats (and quite a few Republicans) put together.
17 posted on 09/09/2005 2:52:38 PM PDT by msnimje (CNN - Constant Negative Nonsense)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
Good thing Judge Robinson's sentence left Mr. Berger's security suspension in place. Otherwise he might be on the short list for FEMA director.

LOL...Nah, they'd rather nominate him to replace O'Connor.
18 posted on 09/09/2005 2:52:43 PM PDT by RetroSexual
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

Bush and the Republicans are looking more and more like the old Democrats.


19 posted on 09/09/2005 2:53:24 PM PDT by Snoopers-868th
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: iopscusa
HE can be nice and more effective, like what about a veto!!!

Very true. He's also a real company man, isn't he? He seems to want to support everyone, even criminal creeps like Sandy Berger.

I think George Washington, who valued his personal integrity so highly, would have declined to meet with Berger. Not so long ago, people would shun someone who'd been convicted of a crime. Today criminals get book and movie deals. Makes me want to go home and push the TV out onto the driveway.

20 posted on 09/09/2005 2:53:30 PM PDT by American Quilter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: marron

It is a simple back scratching technique used by all administrations. Clinton did not probe Bush #1 and left it alone. Bush # 2 will not start picking at the Clinton goons. The pairing of Bush #1 and Clinton is creepy. I agree with Peggy Noonan. Berger is ready to serve again. He will be on tap to work with the next Democrat administration. He is a true soldier for the left.


21 posted on 09/09/2005 2:53:34 PM PDT by oldironsides
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
Bush invited him to the White House, where, according to the Associated Press, the disgraced former Clinton advisor was trotted out to voice support for CAFTA legislation.

Bush is running with the Builderberg crowd. People without borders. Marx would be proud.

22 posted on 09/09/2005 2:54:53 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

Sorry, Carl, but I had this pegged as a NewsMax crap-piece from the headline alone. There's nothing here but innuendo so pathetic that even a Democrat would be ashamed to use it.


23 posted on 09/09/2005 2:55:16 PM PDT by r9etb
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
Just another case of the Ruling Class taking care of the Ruling Class.
I can assure you that Magistrate Judge Deborah Robinson has gone as far up that career ladder as she will be going. How dare she do this to a member of the exalted Ruling Class. I voted for Bush twice, but little things like this are souring me on him.
24 posted on 09/09/2005 2:55:57 PM PDT by Bar-Face (The Embassy helicopter is warming up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

Sandy Berger also co-chaired a committee which criticized the postwar planning in Iraq. It's a strange World when people like Berger are held up as persons we should respect.


25 posted on 09/09/2005 2:56:07 PM PDT by popdonnelly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
This sentence was a disgrace!

The worst looter of all!


26 posted on 09/09/2005 2:57:54 PM PDT by FOXFANVOX (Freedom is not free!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Bar-Face

Magistrate Judges are usually the newbies in the Federal judiciary. I would have liked to have seen what a more experienced Judge might have asked old Sandy.


27 posted on 09/09/2005 2:58:25 PM PDT by popdonnelly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: oldironsides
The pairing of Bush #1 and Clinton is creepy.

I agree, it makes my skin crawl.

And Berger should be in prison.

28 posted on 09/09/2005 3:00:26 PM PDT by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

29 posted on 09/09/2005 3:02:39 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
It isn't up to Bush to forgive Berger. He committed a crime against the United States of America, not against Bush. His invitation to the White House is no surprise to me. Consider these historical facts:

1. Bush did nothing to investigate Clinton for ANY of his crimes while in office, especially China-gate and Pardon-gate, as well has Clinton's people trashing the White House as a nice little parting gift that cost the taxpayers money. Bush is obligated to pursue Justice for the American people not himself.

2. I was disgustted by Bush's patronizing of Bill Clinton at the opening of the Clinton libarary recently. Bush held Clinton up as a great President and wonderful man to be admired and respected -- a man who set the "oral sex is not sex" example for America's children, and besmirched the office of President of the United States. Yet, not a peep out of any of the pundits on that one.

If you or I did what Berger did, we would be in jail for years! But, because Berger is one of the Washington elite, he gets off scott-free! So much for Justice!

30 posted on 09/09/2005 3:03:27 PM PDT by SmartCitizen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

Does anyone still think Terrence Reed's Book; "Compromised, Bush, Clinton, Cocaine" is tin foil hat stuff?


31 posted on 09/09/2005 3:04:27 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: datura
They'd better learn, and quick. "We the people" have about had our fill of this crap.

Absolutely.

32 posted on 09/09/2005 3:07:19 PM PDT by softengine (The revolution will be televised.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
This is one if the strangest aspects of W's administration. He simply refuses (and has from day one) to purge all the Clintonistas from his administration. They are all corrupt and do nothing but work to prevent evidence of Willie's guilt from surfacing. Berger stole documents that proved that Willie, OBL and Saddam did business in the 90s.

Sure, civil service rules might prevent some clintonistats from being terminated. But, at the senior levels, they all serve at the pleasure of the president. From Gorelick to Wilson to Berger, EVERY time W has put trust in a Clintonista, that scumbag has done exactly what Willie would have wanted. And, why W is giving Willie a federal platform to raise Katrina funds is beyond me. Willie only works for Willie and, sometimes, Hillie.

Do we have a record of the Clintonistas who stayed who have been caught?

33 posted on 09/09/2005 3:09:37 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
IBBB! (In Before BushBots!)
34 posted on 09/09/2005 3:11:58 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: datura
Politicians suck. Hasn't anyone inside DC ever heard of doing what is RIGHT for the nation first and foremost? They'd better learn, and quick. "We the people" have about had our fill of this crap.

Amen, FRiend.

It's getting so that you can't tell one side from the other anymore. Goddamn the political ruling class anyway! They are scarcly more tolerable than that we overthrew in 1776.

35 posted on 09/09/2005 3:13:44 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

Oh no. :( I mean...really....oh no.


36 posted on 09/09/2005 3:13:48 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Ya know?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: American Quilter
I think President Bush is taking the high road. And he's so genuinely nice himself that he appears to believe most people will respond reasonably to his kindess. Come to think of it, that's a trait he shares with Ronald Reagan.

Stop right there! Bush is NO Ronald Reagan, period!

37 posted on 09/09/2005 3:14:19 PM PDT by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SmartCitizen
If you or I did what Berger did, we would be in jail for years! But, because Berger is one of the Washington elite, he gets off scott-free! So much for Justice

So much for this "Two-Party Cartel" that until it is broken up we will get this kind of justice & this lousy type of government.

38 posted on 09/09/2005 3:16:54 PM PDT by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
Par for the course so to speak. Remember the FBI files and Craig Livingstone, Ruby Ridge Weaver murders and Laun Horiochie(spell?), Waco Texas masacre of the Branch Dividian Church members and Janet Reno? No justice in those crimes either. Berger is a piker in comparison.
39 posted on 09/09/2005 3:20:10 PM PDT by drypowder
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: American Quilter
I think President Bush is taking the high road.

It's a road paved with gold paid for by us. He hasn't done a single veto. The rate of spending is inexcusable. He did warn us, though, about the "new tone in Washington." A nice phrase that really means the incumbents (of both parties) versus the American people. The president's job is to be an effective manager and leader, not a nice guy at our expense.

40 posted on 09/09/2005 3:21:37 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: marron
"I suspect that at that level, everyone knows where every one else's bodies are buried. So unless you are prepared to deliver a knockout punch, its probably best to be polite."

I think that the President knows that he did it after being asked by someone else - whether it was for loyalty or because someone had something hanging over his head. Maybe he was boxed into a corner and the WH knows what really happened. It is still wrong of course, but I don't think we know the whole story either.

41 posted on 09/09/2005 3:25:40 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax
Bush seems to have extra affection for the most criminal of the rats like Kennedy, Clinton and Berger. Sometimes I think it's his intention to demoralize conservatives.
42 posted on 09/09/2005 3:27:02 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: investigateworld
Does anyone still think Terrence Reed's Book; "Compromised, Bush, Clinton, Cocaine" is tin foil hat stuff?

This book started me on the total corruption of top government. There is no doubt that GW is compromised. There is no doubt that the next president & the next & so on will be compromised. The exception was Ronald Reagan & he was feared by many because of that. That was the reason when Pat Buchanan ran that just when his campaign got going these elites shut it down. They didn't own him. Just as the book mentioned & will be proven correct in later years, the fact Bubba got off with nothing & the Hildabeast is on tract to become the next president & totally ruin this nation for the sake of the One World Order.

43 posted on 09/09/2005 3:31:31 PM PDT by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Digger
That was the reason when Pat Buchanan ran that just when his campaign got going these elites shut it down.

Talk about compromised, Buchanan was actually employed by CNN at one time.

44 posted on 09/09/2005 3:37:41 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Digger
Thanks, Sheeple still buying the two party system, so what ever the pol's are doing it's working jus' fine.
45 posted on 09/09/2005 3:37:52 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Abortion stops a beating heart.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

At times, I agree - Bush is an IDIOT!

Not to mention the extreme stupidity of issuing debit cards of $2000 ??

WTF!?!?!?!


46 posted on 09/09/2005 3:40:50 PM PDT by hombre_sincero (www.sigmaitsys.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Carl/NewsMax

I'm sorry, but that's the last straw. The republican party and it's leaders are cowards and really no different than the democrats by how they protect each other (the political class). Maybe it's true what the left says about Bush that he's drinking again, cuz his actions make no sense.


47 posted on 09/09/2005 3:44:43 PM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL (Why didn't Dr. Howard Dean not offer his services for hurricane victims? Cuz he hates blacks.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: datura
They'd better learn, and quick. "We the people" have about had our fill of this crap

Couldn't agree with you more. The political class needs to be reminded who signs their paychecks.

48 posted on 09/09/2005 3:54:22 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: investigateworld
Sheeple still buying the two party system, so what ever the pol's are doing it's working jus' fine.

"working jus' fine"? I see your 1st of the month check is still not spent & your free meds haven't yet run out. (just kidding)

49 posted on 09/09/2005 4:00:51 PM PDT by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: popdonnelly
Magistrate Judges are usually the newbies in the Federal judiciary.

On another thread, I suggested that a Magistrate was somewhere between a Meter Maid and a Justice of the Peace. This case was handled as a misdemeanor instead of a felony which was a travesty of justice. Words cannot express my contempt for everyone involved in this whitewash.

50 posted on 09/09/2005 4:03:19 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-109 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson