Skip to comments.Subtle are Einstein's thoughts
Posted on 09/10/2005 4:56:18 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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Yep, pretty fascinating stuff and wasn't it Einstein who predicted this "spooky" action-at-a-distance? It is unreal how this man using only his mind and a chalk board conceived of these properties of nature that we now only have the technology to prove or telescopes to view as in black holes.
"To assume the existence of an unperceivable being ... does not facilitate understanding the orderliness we find in the perceivable world."This is not a God who pops in every once in a while to make a new species because microevolution can never become macroevolution. There are no miracles at all with this God. He got it as right as He needed it up front.
-- Albert Einstein, letter to an Iowa student who asked, What is God? July, 1953; Einstein Archive
I never had them, but I have some silly-looking pics of my Dad as a young man making them at the camera.
IMHO, the most truly remarkable thing about Einstein was the diverse range of subtopics in physics he contributed essential knowledge to. His 1905 paper included:
-a study of Brownian motion (the first self-contained empirical method of measuring molecular/atomic masses)
-the photoelectric effect (essentially the discovery of photons, which is actually the theory that won him the Nobel Prize)
- AND special relativity.
Later in life he contributed general relativity, important theories in quantum statistics and the specific heats of solids, and to the development of quantum mechanics and cosmology.
Any one of this vast number of contributions would have been enough for most physicists to say they had a successful career.
I think Einstein instead of allowing himself to accept something that might have been false in his religious beliefs instead opted for a childlike religion of possibilities?
Einstein, I believe, trusted in a Creator that would appreciate his courage of conviction. :-)
What part of your little plug did I miss?
Einstein never claimed to be a theologian. Ah, but aren't we all of necessity "amateurish" theologians in our own way?
Every human comes at least once to a place where we consider if there is not Something Bigger out there. Were this not so; if we could not grasp anything larger than our own needs, I doubt we would qualify as "conscious" entities.
Thus each of us determines our own theology - be it Paganism, Pantheism, Christianity, Atheism, Agnosticism, etc., etc,. And the spectrum of adherence to the tenets of each faith is equally as broad, and changes over the course of one's lifetime.
Quote-mining in order to prove or disprove Einstein's religious convictions is a futile endeavor...for none of us were privy to his conscious thoughts as he slipped from this life. I am however, immensely satisfied that Einstein, for all his brains, still retained a sense of wonder, awe, and mystery about the Universe.
This has about as much value as what Kwame West thinks about Bush.
Your thoughts were foresaw by God and He inspired Paul to clear things up for us.
Rationalizations and excuses about why people disagree with you... How handy, especially when it avoids having to think about the real reasons.
There are far more reasons why billions of people find your "proof" unconvincing, beyond dismissive labeling such as "lies", "corruption", or "debasement". Claiming otherwise is a classic exampleo of the "Straw man fallacy".
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
-- Hamlet, Act 1 Scene 5, by William Shakespeare
That the plug was written by: --H. O'Billovich
A review of the book on Amazon.com. :-)
The possibility of mirror-matter is something taken seriously by some physicists, and some of what is printed on the site in your link looks valid; I have to say though, that there's some stuff in your link that looks fishy, though (i.e. the whole deal about the Tunguska explosion - just as easily explainable by an ordinary comet impact). Always remember, the web is an incredibly vast repository of information with zero quality control; always check the sources of info before taking it too seriously.
In any case, mirror matter is an interesting concept - it may well be real (though once again, I'm not an expert on this).
"My father woke me late one October night in 1957, bundled me up and brought me out to our front porch."
Same thing happened to me except it was a meteor that lit up the whole sky in a yellow glow and cast shadows inside our house.
A little of both, I think. While Einstein clearly did not believe in the idea of a "personified" God -- one that was conscious or had "plans" or anything like that -- it also doesn't seem entirely accurate to say that he used "God" as a label for "just nature".
I get the impression that he envisioned some sort of thing underlying nature as we know it, or beyond it in some way, which was not a "being" in any sense of thw word, but which imbued nature as we know it with order and complexity. That which provided our universe with its "spark of magic", if you will, which could be found if we pulled away the curtain of our own universe and looked behind it. Even if it was just a "metauniverse" of a kind, operating by its own supranatural (as opposed to "supernatural") laws which spun off our own, Einstein would consider it the "God" of our universe, the "prime mover", the source which was even more awe-inspiring than our already awe-inspiring "bubble" of a universe within the larger.
As always, your thoughts are succinct. We will not "discover" God simply by reading what others have written...we must experience Him.
Because we have retained the wonder and awe of our unique experiences, we are both that much closer to God.
Yes it is, and I first heard about it approximately 2 years ago. The gentleman who's site I included seem to be one with the most knowledge and I believe he has articles in a few journals. I know however that there are many crackpot sites and theories floating about on the Internet.
What intrigues me most is that if true, a mirror world might exist with all the implications that would mean.
Where have you been?
The Intelligent Design movement perfectly coincides with this passage of Scripture.
Rom 1:20 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,
Thanks, I certainly feel a lot closer to God now after years of reading, and studying not only religious writings but also of the wonders of his creation. I never was able to make sense of the bible thumping preaching during my childhood.
I asked my Grandmother once, "Why would God need a rib from Adam to make Eve"? She almost had a heart attack! :-)
Deism seems to fit. "the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God," to use Jefferson's phrase. [His caps.]
Can you imagine submitting your perpetual motion machine model to that patent clerk?
I should have stated that it was a review of the book in my post. ;-)
I can certainly appreciate her reaction, for my Dad had a similar reaction upon learning that I believe in theistic evolution. It has taken years, but we've reached a resolution in that belief or disbelief in a literal six days of Creation is not a point of Salvation.
Perhaps farther down in the thread someone has already posted that Isaac Newton was a very devout Christian.
I have read that faith was so important to Newton that it guided his standards for seeking the truth in natural philosophy and to establishing practical technique and fact for civilization.
Many deep philosophers and scientists are guided by a humble approach to understanding the universe in scientific terms, in bowing their head in reverence that their investigations lead along a pathway to truth, even a glimpse of truth that shadows that which no one can ever know completely.
I am convinced God is of a higher dimension that we simply cannot sense within our own dimensional confines. For if could prove the existence of God, if we could gather 'physical' evidence of God's existence, then we would be aware of the hyperdimension of God's existence, and with that awareness we could elevate ourselves to be equal to God, which is impossible.
So, it's only for the lack of the Patriot Act, that Einsten remained in America.
Well. now I guess we know how you came to be.
Also heat capacity.
I commend you to read "Letter from the Recording Angel to Abner Scofield, Coal Dealer"
It is perhaps the funniest thing Twain ever wrote.
Thanks, I'll do that. His sardonic humor and wit are unsurpassed.
The FBI claimed Einstein was a member, sponsor, or affiliated with thirty-four communist fronts between 1937 and 1954. It was said that he served as honorary chairman for three communist organizations. He was never an agent of a foreign power and therefore I suspect the reason he was able to remain in the US among other reasons.
Intelligence made easier to gather by the patriot act today still would not have been a factor IMHO. I'm not an expert in the matter and I'm not even sure what constitutes a 'foreign power' as defined in today's USC.
Thanks. I tried reading like that online once and I just couldn't do it. I like the physical book in my hands.
I left out the omens, the portents, the angelic choir, the annunciation, etc.
But the teddy bear or sweetheart image that Americans formed of him in his last years wasn't the real man. Some people may have been misled by the image of the gentle shaggy genius in a sweatshirt into thinking that rejection of social norms makes one more humane. That doesn't always happen. It may simply make one more egoistic. Of course Einstein wasn't a Nazi, but that's a pretty basic requirement for humaneness.
For some scientists, though, "doing physics" can be a "religious experience." It can be their way of encountering the transcendent or divine. One can certainly quarrel with such a view and want all the canonical names and texts to have their place in one's world view, but it's not for nothing that a word like "consmology" has both physical/astronomic and metaphysical/religious connotations.
You fools! He was referring to The Great Old Ones!
So who will be next to penetrate Azathoth's babbling? The Lovecraft Code?
Do you live within the borders of the United States of America?
Carolina in your name seems to imply that you do. How do you stomach living amongst a majority of people (In the Carolinas) that believe in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ? Are they all just completely deluded psychos? How far do you have to drive to avoid a building that houses your fellow citizens who weekly are being taught and believing that Jesus rose from the dead on the third day?
There was a time in history when people believed based on tradition, but these United States of America changed all that. We can congregate with whomever we please, because there is no coercion. We are millions of rational, productive souls who contribute more to this society than any other group. Our free Christian heritage sets us apart from all other nations of the world and in history.
You must feel a foreigner. Talk with your local Christian that you find respectable. They may attempt to persuade you to change your mind on these things. Our Lord Jesus was persuasive, but never coercive; unlike other belief systems in this world, including Scientism.
It might be possible that he is more tolerant than your average Christian when it comes to accepting those with different views.
He was borderline a raving nutter in many other areas, so outside his very narrow specialty his opinions should be viewed in a dubious light.
Classic example of an appeal to improper authority.
Amen, sister! Amen!
I think your pictures demonstrate that men get better looking as they get older.
Until reach my age. Sigh.
From my casual readings of Einsteins non-science stuff, I get the feeling that he was way too much of an empericist to get a good hold on religion.
Which is a bit odd when you think about it, because alot of his theories themselves were not proven till we had the technology to do it.
I am in awe. Is it written in a 2000 year old book. Wow! That'll put a crimp in bondserve's tail.
That is also one my most favorites of Twain.
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