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Mike Brown's experience in hurricane and storm disaster relief.
FEMA Website - Federally Declared Disasters by Calendar Year ^ | 10 Sep 2005 | PhilipFreneau

Posted on 09/10/2005 11:00:06 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau

Since becoming FEMA director in January 2003, Michael Brown had organized the the relief efforts of 165 federally declared disaster areas, including the following hurricane and tropical storm emergency and major disasters (with initial dates and affected states):

Year 2005

09/07    New Mexico     Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/07    Oregon         Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/07    Washington     Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/07    Dist of Col.    Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/07    Michigan     Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/05    Colorado     Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/05    Utah         Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/05    North Carolina    Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/05    West Virginia    Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/05    Florida        Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/05    Oklahoma    Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/05    Georgia        Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/05    Tennessee    Hurricane Katrina Evacuation
09/02    Texas        Hurricane Katrina
09/02    Arkansas    Hurricane Katrina
08/28    Alabama        Hurricane Katrina
08/28    Mississippi    Hurricane Katrina
08/27    Louisiana    Hurricane Katrina
08/23    Louisiana    Tropical Storm Cindy
07/10    Florida        Hurricane Dennis
07/10    Mississippi    Hurricane Dennis
07/10    Alabama        Hurricane Dennis
02/18    American Samoa    Tropical Cyclone Olaf, including High Winds, High Surf, and Heavy Rainfall

Year 2004

11/15    Delaware     Severe Storms, Tornadoes, and Flooding from the remnants of Hurricane Jeanne
10/18    Virginia    Severe Storms and Flooding from the remnants of Hurricane Jeanne
10/07    US Virgin Is.    Tropical Storm Jeanne
10/07    South Carolina    Tropical Storm Frances
10/01    New York    Tropical Depression Ivan
10/01    New Jersey    Tropical Depression Ivan
09/26    Florida        Hurricane Jeanne
09/24    Georgia        Tropical Storm Frances
09/19    Pennsylvania    Tropical Depression Ivan
09/19    Pennsylvania    Severe Storms and Flooding associated with Tropical Depression Frances
09/18    Georgia     Hurricane Ivan
09/18    North Carolina    Hurricane Ivan
09/17    Puerto Rico    Tropical Storm Jeanne and Resulting Landslides and Mudslides
09/16    Florida        Hurricane Ivan
09/15    Mississippi    Hurricane Ivan
09/15    Alabama        Hurricane Ivan
09/15    Louisiana    Hurricane Ivan
09/15    South Carolina    Tropical Storm Gaston
09/10    North Carolina    Tropical Storm Frances
09/04    Florida        Hurricane Frances
09/03    Virginia    Severe Storms, Flooding and Tornadoes Associated with Tropical Depression Gaston
09/01    South Carolina    Hurricane Charley
08/26    Mariana Islands    Flooding, High Surf, Storm Surge, and High Winds as a result of Super Typhoon Chaba
08/13    Florida     Hurricane Charley and Tropical Storm Bonnie
07/29    Guam        High Winds, Flooding, and Mudslides as a result of Tropical Storm Tingting
07/29    Mariana Islands    Flooding, High Surf, High Winds, and Wind-Driven Rain associated with Typhoon Tingting
04/10    Micronesia    Typhoon Sudal
01/13    American Samoa    High Winds, High Surf and Heavy Rainfall Associated With Tropical Cyclone Heta

Year 2003

12/19    Micronesia    Typhoon Lupit
09/26    Pennsylvania    Tropical Storms Henri and Isabel, and Related Severe Storms and Flooding
09/23    Delaware    Tropical Storm Henri
09/20    Delaware    Hurricane Isabel
09/20    Dist of Col.    Hurricane Isabel
09/19    Maryland    Hurricane Isabel
09/18    Virginia    Hurricane Isabel
09/18    North Carolina    Hurricane Isabel
07/17    Texas        Hurricane Claudette
01/06    Micronesia    Typhoon Pongsona


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fema; hurricane; michaelbrown; mikebrown; tropicalstorm
This does not include Brown's oversight of floods, wildfires, tornados, earthquakes, and snow-related disaster areas totalling about 100.
1 posted on 09/10/2005 11:00:08 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: PhilipFreneau
I think if the death toll from Katrina comes in at anything short of Ray Nagin's figure of 10,000, W should give Brown the Medal of Freedom, just like he did for George Tenet.

10,000-x= number of lives saved by Brown. QED.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/12/20041214-3.html


2 posted on 09/10/2005 11:12:51 AM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: Sooth2222

>> I think if the death toll from Katrina comes in at anything short of Ray Nagin's figure of 10,000, W should give Brown the Medal of Freedom <<<

And at the ceremony the President should declare, "Michael Brown is the most experienced hurricane and tropical storm disaster relief expert on the planet, and his experience paid off in the Katrina disaster".


3 posted on 09/10/2005 11:16:48 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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To: PhilipFreneau

I keep asking and so far haven't had a satisfactory answer...what was the failure of FEMA and Michael Brown? I'm looking for chapter and verse of regulations where the failures supposedly occurred, not just the claims of the MSM. The dems are not after Michael Brown. They got him as a way to put blood in the water and get to George W. Bush.


4 posted on 09/10/2005 11:21:33 AM PDT by Binghamton_native
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To: PhilipFreneau; Chieftain

Gosh! why didn't I see this list in the NY Times?


5 posted on 09/10/2005 11:21:47 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (George W. Bush...a Real Leader for Perilous Times !)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

>>> Gosh! why didn't I see this list in the NY Times? <<<

Because this is news. The New York Times is a left-wing propaganda outlet.


6 posted on 09/10/2005 11:25:26 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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To: Binghamton_native
M Browns failure was not in following his mandate, but in not bending the rules, going to the press and castigating the Governor and Mayor for malfeasance early on.

It just goes to show, being nice and playing by the rules with DemocRATS doesn't pay. At least he would have gone down swinging. Maybe he would have generated some action sooner.
7 posted on 09/10/2005 11:29:14 AM PDT by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: PhilipFreneau

Yes! And to top it off we should start a thank you thread to
Michael Brown to let the dems know that some of us appreciate his knowledge and expertise.


8 posted on 09/10/2005 11:46:42 AM PDT by trustandobey (Delay 2008)
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To: PhilipFreneau
I'm sorry, but anyone on that Thursday night of the disaster who says everything is O.K.in N.O. obviously was not on top of his game.

I'm sure Micheal Brown is a great guy, but Bush did the right thing in taking away operational control from him of FEMA on the ground

9 posted on 09/10/2005 11:50:30 AM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Popman

>>> I'm sorry, but anyone on that Thursday night of the disaster who says everything is O.K.in N.O. obviously was not on top of his game. I'm sure Micheal Brown is a great guy, but Bush did the right thing in taking away operational control from him of FEMA on the ground. <<<

You keep spouting those DNC talking points and the media will be interviewing you instead of Hagel.


10 posted on 09/10/2005 11:53:43 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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To: PhilipFreneau
I never realized that Micheal Brown himself was spouting DNC talking points when he told the CNN that statement

I think you found a mole in the bush administration. < / sarcasm >

Look, I'm not bashing the guy. He obviously isn't cut out for the leadership role FEMA needs at this moment. Most people aren't.

Bush needed to fish or cut bait.

11 posted on 09/10/2005 12:08:17 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: PhilipFreneau

Bump


12 posted on 09/10/2005 12:25:50 PM PDT by jdhljc169
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To: PhilipFreneau
Thank you. I've asked the question since I couldn't understand the Democratic hit squad ratting down on Director Brown. Quite frankly I find that FEMA is doing a fantastic job under Brown. For a Director and only about 2500 employees, wow! This department of the Government is doing an outstanding job.
13 posted on 09/10/2005 12:27:37 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Popman

Commanders who suffer defeats--and that includes propoganda defeats--tend to be removed.


14 posted on 09/10/2005 12:28:11 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Logical me

He looked inept. That matters.


15 posted on 09/10/2005 12:29:08 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Binghamton_native

Liberals and Big Media need a scapegoat for the disaster. They obviously can't blame an incompetent Dem, female governor and an incompetent Dem, Black mayor. By default the blame goes to Bush and Brown. I'm sure Big Media (BM) if they could, would like to blame Bush and Rove for creating the hurricane with an evil conservative hurricane machine, dynamiting the levees, shackling Blanco and Nagin while giving them muscle and brain paralyzing drugs, and preventing relief workers from entering NO. Actually they are trying to do that. I'm only slightly exaggerating.


16 posted on 09/10/2005 12:31:29 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Sooth2222

That would be a disaster. Medal of Freedom? PULEEZE! You are seriously delusional. George Tenet didn't deserve it either.


17 posted on 09/10/2005 12:33:50 PM PDT by Feiny (I am not mean. You're just a sissy.)
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To: driftless
"Liberals and Big Media need a scapegoat for the disaster..."

You are correct.They are looking for an opening in the door to impeachment.

The point is the MSM/LIBS & demented Dems have been pushing for a Bush Scalp since he took office in 2000. They don't care who it is, it would seve as a beginning for them to continue to scalp heads, to demoralize Republicans, the Christian right, conservatives and sink this presidency.

By the steady drumbeat of MoveOn and DU, they've called for or questioned the competence of:

Ashcroft, Rummy, Dr. Rice, Bolton, Rove and anyone with responsibility in the WH or Administration.

As I said on another thread, next is Laura Bush!
18 posted on 09/10/2005 1:14:08 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Popman

>> Look, I'm not bashing the guy. He obviously isn't cut out for the leadership role FEMA needs at this moment. Most people aren't. <<<

Excuse me, but you are bashing him. Where did you get the notion that he is not cut out for the job, the New York Times? In approximately a week Brown and his 2500 employees turned 90,000 square miles of disaster area, including a major city that is approximately 80% under water, into a manageable project. In 10 days he was ready to turn the job over to subordinates and move on to planning for other potential disasters.

Of course, I am certain you or someone you know could have done a better job, right?


19 posted on 09/10/2005 2:00:18 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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To: Binghamton_native
I'm looking for chapter and verse of regulations where the failures supposedly occurred, not just the claims of the MSM.

That was pretty much the problem -- following the rules and regulations instead of stepping up to the job and getting it done.

20 posted on 09/10/2005 2:00:53 PM PDT by Lessismore
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To: PhilipFreneau; Popman

I just saw a news conference on Fox News. Coast Guard Vice-Admiral Thad Allen is the new head of relief and rescue in New Orleans. I don't know what his new title is--I was hoping someone would post a new thread; I don't have enough information to do that. So Michael Chertoff hasn't sat by quietly--appointed a can-do man.

Admiral Allen said that there are so many organizations trying to help in New Orleans, from the military--National Guard, Coast Guard, Marines, etc. to the Salvation Army, Red Cross, and many others. That it's important that they not duplicate each other's efforts, that the most benefit is derived from each, and that the massive resources of the Navy and Coast Guard--boats--be put to use on the Mississippi to fight fires, etc. That much more can be done to speed up the recovery.

Looks like we finally have a manager to coordinate everything--leave it to our military!! :)

I'm hoping the President appoints General Gus Pagonis to be the master planner for disaster relief. He did a phenomenal job during the first Gulf War.


21 posted on 09/10/2005 2:15:39 PM PDT by GoldwaterChick
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To: GoldwaterChick

>>> Looks like we finally have a manager to coordinate everything--leave it to our military!! <<<

So, Allen arrives and finds more than enough assets to do the job. Brown did his job well.


22 posted on 09/10/2005 2:40:15 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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To: PhilipFreneau
Is it or is it not true that on Thursday when asked about N.O. he basically said everything was O.K.???

If he didn't my ears are lying when I heard him say it.

If he did, all he had to do was turn on the freaking T.V. to see it was total anarchy in the city.

If the guy is that tone deaf to what was happening on the ground, it would seem he was not in the loop.

That is not leadership.

As for FEMA turning the "2500 employees turned 90,000 square miles of disaster area, including a major city that is approximately 80% under water, into a manageable project".

I would say the military played a major role which Mike Brown had very little to do with.

Are you implying Bush made a mistake in removing him from the operational aspect of it.

To quote you:

"Of course, I am certain you or someone you know could have made a better decision, right?"

23 posted on 09/10/2005 3:13:46 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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To: Popman

>>> Is it or is it not true that on Thursday when asked about N.O. he basically said everything was O.K.??? <<<

Personally, I think you heard what you wanted to hear. To a planner, "everything going Okay" would mean something entirely different to someone looking for a soundbite. Brown was baited by the Bush-Haters in the MSM, and you bought into it. Unbelievable.

>>> I would say the military played a major role which Mike Brown had very little to do with. <<<

A DOD press conference that discusses the relationship between the military response and FEMA, dated Wednesday, August 31, 2 days after the hurricane hit, states (excerted):

"We in DOD understand that commander's intent. Secretary Rumsfeld, Department Secretary -- Acting Deputy Secretary England have communicated to our Department at all levels a requirement that we pro-actively lean into the mission, and that we be fully prepared to assist DHS, FEMA, and our interagency partners in supporting their lead efforts in responding to this natural disaster." . . .

"Lieutenant General Honore has for the past several days been at Camp Shelby, Mississippi, where he is closely coordinating with his FEMA counterparts." . . .

"We ultimately expect that we will make available a fleet of approximately 50 helicopters to support FEMA's operations. That would include aerial assessment of damage, movement of FEMA personnel and other interagency partners who, for reasons that are obvious, had difficulty achieving ground transportation." . . .

"Some of you may have seen media broadcasts that relate to the movement of United States Naval Forces. That reflected again the proactive, very aggressive message given to us by the Secretary of Defense that we are not to merely be passive in our response to FEMA requests for assistance, but as a fully cooperating partner to anticipate the kinds of needs that FEMA may bring to our attention, and to put in place in a forward-deployed status those kinds of DOD capabilities that will likely be called upon." . . .

"For that reason, we are moving to the area approximately eight ships that have various competencies in terms of medical support, humanitarian relief, transportation in a maritime environment. We are forward-deploying everything that we think might be required by FEMA. And we'll be fully prepared to respond to FEMA's request for assistance when they inevitably are forthcoming. " . . .

"We're looking toward the possibility of medical surge capabilities. We've had to provide that kind of support in the past, for instance, during the hurricanes last year in Florida. We are identifying medical specialties that FEMA may call upon us to present. We've also been working very closely with HHS on those issues."...

"GENERAL SCHERLING: Yes, the National Guard would be able to assist the states at the Governor's request. I would also add that the active duty military and the National Guard provide a deep bench for any of the missions that are requested by FEMA and the Department of Homeland Security. And so we are prepared to anticipate those requests."

....

From http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/2005/tr20050831-3842.html


24 posted on 09/10/2005 3:44:21 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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To: Binghamton_native
>>.what was the failure of FEMA and Michael Brown?

Good question but immaterial.
Katarina was a disaster and it was ugly from top to bottom.
Mike Brown at his previous job as"Judges and Stewards Commissioner" for the International Arabian Horses Association was fired for cause.
Maybe he didn't do anything wrong , but I'll tell you this if he was a Klintoon appointee no one here would be defending him
25 posted on 09/10/2005 4:12:48 PM PDT by grjr21
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To: grjr21

>>> Mike Brown at his previous job as"Judges and Stewards Commissioner" for the International Arabian Horses Association was fired for cause. <<<

You have been deceived. Brown was asked to leave the IAHA after eleven (11) years as its commissioner because he did his job as rules enforcer too well. As it turned out, some of those he sighted for rules and ethics violations had deep pockets with which to sue the IAHA, causing the organization financial hardship. [sarcasm] Brown should have known that as a rules enforcer the last thing he should have done is enforce the rules [/sarcasm].

Further, that job was over 4 years ago. Brown's first job at FEMA in 2001 was not as its director. He held several subordinate positions before he was appointed to the head of FEMA in January 2003. Since being appointed director he has successfully organized 165 federally-declared disasters; and he has the more experience than anyone on the planet in organizing hurricane and tropical storm relief efforts. See:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1481839/posts


26 posted on 09/11/2005 6:57:51 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau ("Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." -- James 4:7)
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