Skip to comments.Flight 93 victims honored with Muslim Crescent?
Posted on 09/10/2005 1:14:53 PM PDT by wagglebee
A Pennsylvania pastor is fighting the newly approved design of the Flight 93 National Memorial, contending its crescent pattern is a symbol of Islam.
Rev. Ron McRae, head of the Bible Anabaptist Church near Jerome, Pa., about 55 miles from Pittsburgh, said a private group he formed might go to court to block the "Crescent of Embrace" memorial designed by Paul Murdoch Associates of Los Angeles.
"This is a memorial to the terrorists who killed those people, not a memorial to the folks who died there innocently," McRae told the Tribune-Democrat newspaper in Johnstown, Pa.
McRae of Conemaugh Township, Pa., is director and founder of the Lancaster-based Street Preachers Fellowship.
The heart of the memorial is a mile-long semicircle of red maples surrounding the place near Shanksville, Pa, where the flight's 40 passengers and crew were killed when the hijacked plane plunged into the ground Sept. 11, 2001.
The designer maintains he used the term crescent only in the architectural sense of a curved line.
"This is not about any religion per se," Murdoch told the Tribune-Democrat. "It's a spiritual space, and a sacred place, but it's open to anyone."
But McRae vows to fight it.
"They wouldn't dare put up the Ten Commandments or the cross of Christ, but they're going to put up a red crescent," he said. "We're not going to stand idly by and allow this to happen."
Several weblogs raised similar concerns about the design.
Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs asked: "Is this a coincidence, an example of amazing cluelessness, or something more deliberate?"
Ed Morrissey at Captain's Quarters said, "Can you imagine the outcry from the multiculturalists and the ACLU had the design incorporated a cross or a Star of David in honor of the victims? Why should we tolerate the Crescent that, inadvertently or deliberately, honors the terrorists?
Model of Flight 93 memorial
I have a feeling that the heroes who brought down the plane would want to see this travesty burned to the ground.
I would say that anything that could be twisted into a cresent would be in bad taste.
Give the trees a few years to grow and then take an arial picture in the fall. That picture would be all over the Arab world mo-ricky-tick.
The heroes of that flight do not deserve this slap in the face.
Posted on Fri, Sep. 09, 2005
"Preacher vows fight over Flight 93 memorial design"
ARTICLE SNIPPET: "SOMERSET, Pa. - A Somerset County preacher vowed to fight the design of the Flight 93 National Memorial, insisting that the crescent pathway used in the design is a symbol of Islam.
"This is a memorial to the terrorists who killed those people, not a memorial to the folks who died there innocently," said the Rev. Ron McRae, leader of the Bible Anabaptist Church near Jerome, about 55 miles southeast of Pittsburgh.
"The crescent is as much connected to Islam as the cross is to Christianity," said McRae of Conemaugh Township, also listed as director and founder on the Web site of the Lancaster-based Street Preachers Fellowship.
McRae said the group may go to court to try to block the "Crescent of Embrace" memorial designed by Paul Murdoch Associates of Los Angeles. The design centers around a mile-long semicircle of red maples surrounding the point of impact, where 40 passengers and crew were killed when the hijacked plane crashed near Shanksville on Sept. 11, 2001.
Though not accepted by all Muslims, the crescent moon and star is an internationally recognized symbol of Islam and appears on the flags of many Muslim nations."
When the bullcrap starts at the top, don't be surprised how far it splatters when it rolls downhill.
"This is a memorial to the terrorists who killed those people, not a memorial to the folks who died there innocently," McRae told the Tribune-Democrat newspaper in Johnstown, Pa."
"Makin' a list. Checkin' it twice."
Now where's my little black book..... P A U L M U R D O ... etc...
THIS IS NOT A MISTAKE
THIS IS 100% INTENTIONAL
I BET THIS WAS SUBMITTED AND APPROVED BY THE BLAME AMERICA FIRST CROWD.
THIS IS DISGUSTING.
Unbelievable! The UN would likely want to make this a World Heritage site and demand we keep those trees protected.
I say let the victims kinfolk have their say...
Paul Murdoch Architects
5150 Wilshire Blvd., #504
Los Angeles, CA 90036
This is a joke, right? How have the families of those heroes on board that plane allowed this to happen?
Let the National Park Service know how we feel about this outrage:
Superintendent - Flight 93 National Memorial
The families of Flight 93 need to stand up. The designers and the committee that approved the design need to be told exactly where to stick it.
This is disgusting. I'm not sure contacting the architects - the idiots who thought this up - will work. Is there anybody else we can contact?
I am totally aghast. Why memorialize the killers? I honestly can't think of a more inappropriate memorial.
Look like this is Teresa Heinz' doing...
The Flight 93 National Memorial Design Competition has been funded through the generous support of the Heinz Endowments and the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation.
This is what happens when our government insists that our enemies (who are trying to kill us) are members of a "religion of peace."
Right like these guys.
India town buries U.S. Muslim soldier slain in Iraq
Reuters ^ | 9/4/04
"I Punched Saddam in the Mouth"
River Front Times ^ | April 13, 2005 | CHAD GARRISON
Thanks! I'm writing to the Park Service. Is there anybody else in charge of this?
You're trying to make exceptions seem like the rule. Get over it already, chump.
Not analogous. The Germans making a holocaust monument in the shape of a swastika and calling it "Swastika of Embrace" would be analogous though.
THIS IS NOT A MISTAKE
THIS IS 100% INTENTIONAL
Years ago, on Boston's Southeast Expressway, a natural gas tank was repainted with a modernistic set of irregular stripes. Some claimed that the leftmost stripe (the dark red one, if I recall correctly) bore a striking resemblance to a profile of Ho Chi Minh.
It would be interesting to look further into the background of the artist who thought this up. This in a day when the NCAA has seen fit to examine all sports team names for PC implications.
Islamonazis don't care what is built there. So long as the ground is marked in some way so that they can build a mosque on this "holy site" once they dominate America.
I believe that it still remains.
Then move the crescent. Keep the memorial with the windchimes for each victim of that flight.
I suppose having an aerial cross, or flag, or 93 was too simple an idea.
FL's motorcycle rights plate is three verticle stripes of red white and blue.
Any surprise if I tell you it was designed by a frenchman?
This was approved by committee, there is ZERO chance this was not intentional.
THIS IS 100% AN EFFORT TO SPIT AT THE USA AS A NATION.
My overreaction was uncalled for. I'm sorry.
Yup, we got some homework to do!
This is just too creepy
That said, it is still one of the odd coincidences I can imagine. And it will probably be changed once the connection to Islam is pointed out to the families.
This pastor definitely has a good point. We all know how artists want to hide behind their creativity, while at the same time promoting their biases. Whether the artist did this or not, deliberately or without thinking, it needs to be changed. I'm sure the Islams are laughing in the streets about this one. Wow!
You're more charitable than me. I seen and heard so many domestic enemies and traitors my suspicians are raised over anything like this. The Heinz Foundation connection heigthens my incredulity. Awaiting further facts, suspiciously...
Do we put swastika's on memorials for soldiers who have died in World War II?
Apples and oranges.
So everything that has a cresent shape to it should be banned?
True enough, in fact we would not be able to prosecute the war against the terrorists without our Muslim Allies.
That said, those who executed the 9/11 attacks against the US did so under the banner if Islam. I believe that it is wrong to memorialize the victims of 9/11 with what looks for all the world like the symbol of their murderers.
The design needs to be changed.
Right after we win the battle against French Toast.
The fact is that a significant minority of Muslims do want to kill us. A siginificant portion of Muslims do not actively and loudly denounce that minority.
The militia of Flight 93 fought and died heroically against members of that hate-filled minority, and for the USA. Anything resembling a red crescent at their memorial would be flatly inappropriate. The shape crescent is okay for many other purposes, the moon, croissants, whatever, just not for this purpose, and certainly not the color red.
A quick lookup and I see that the following Islamic countries have seen fit to honor the crescent moon and star(s) design by featuring it in their flags:
Azerbaijan, Kazakstan, Malaysia, Maldives, Pakistan, Singapore, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Algeria, Angola, Mauritania, and Tunisia.
Here is Pakistan's flag:
On TV tomorrow night:
Flight 93 The Flight That Fought Back
Presented without commercial interruption
Sunday, Sept. 11, 9 p.m. ET/PT. Discovery Channel