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Cease Fire on Animals Streets of New Orleans (Please Sign Petition)
Petition Site ^ | 9/10/05

Posted on 09/10/2005 11:21:16 PM PDT by BagCamAddict

Please sign the online petition to stop the killing of pets in New Orleans. Conflicting reports abound, regarding whether orders have been given to shoot abandoned pets. But just in case it is or becomes true, please sign the online petitions below to STOP the killing:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/366281507?ltl=1126417990

And the following petition adds the words "and their pets" to the order to evacuate people from New Orleans. Please sign it also:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/840979272?ltl=1126071044


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: abandonedanimals; amazinglydumbvanity; animalrights; antihunting; apigisaboy; companionanimals; dogfood; doggieping; fluffy; growaheartsometime; katrina; liberalwebsite; peta; pets; petsgonewild; petsnothumans; wildkingdom
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Thank you all in advance for signing these petitions. Thousands and thousands of pets are starving in New Orleans. People who have NOTHING left but their pets were forced to leave their pets when they were evacuated. Now those pets are trapped in sweltering houses with no food or water, or are chained up with no opportunity to scavenge for food or water, or are roaming the streets. My local news said packs of dogs are roaming the streets, killing smaller and weaker dogs, and eating them to survive (that information came from the Oregon Humane Society team that is performing search and rescue operations for animals in New Orleans).

Please sign the petitions. Thank you.

1 posted on 09/10/2005 11:21:18 PM PDT by BagCamAddict
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To: BagCamAddict

shooting them is the most humane thing that came be done.
They will just go to animal shelter and get euthanized anyways.
Save people, they are more important than animals.

For people with pets, they are providing animal cages for them now.


2 posted on 09/10/2005 11:26:25 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: BagCamAddict

Get your priorities straight.


3 posted on 09/10/2005 11:27:49 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: BagCamAddict

Let's start a petition to force world peace.

People can buy another dog, there's no shortage of them.


4 posted on 09/10/2005 11:32:20 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: BagCamAddict

As sad as it is, several of these abandoned pets are very likely infected to disease from the waste water and from wild animals in the area. Euthanizing, by shot or shooting, just may be in the best interest of all.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/218107_pets30.html

The link discusses a returning disease, caught by dogs from racoons and passed to humans. It is from the Northwest, but if it can be passed here, it can be passed elsewhere.


5 posted on 09/10/2005 11:33:49 PM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: BagCamAddict

THe coalition for Chinese Restaurants isn't going to like this.


6 posted on 09/10/2005 11:34:12 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: BagCamAddict

Done,thanks for the links.


7 posted on 09/10/2005 11:34:42 PM PDT by mrsmel ( Here lies David St. Hubbins... and why not?)
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To: ChadGore

Wow....they hated being called refugees....wait till they read this .....


8 posted on 09/10/2005 11:35:18 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: BagCamAddict

Several petitions signed, including this one! Thanks.


9 posted on 09/10/2005 11:37:18 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Nathan Zachary

I was talking to my husband about how cruel it seems to be shooting people's pets. He said that they have to now, that the dogs are running in packs and getting vicious, looking for food.


10 posted on 09/10/2005 11:37:35 PM PDT by Eva
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To: KingKongCobra

>>>Let's start a petition to force world peace.

I'd rather sign a petition to banish vanity posts on FR... :)


11 posted on 09/10/2005 11:37:59 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Looters: undocumented consumers || Looting: purchases with indefinite deferred payment plans)
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To: KingKongCobra
I don't know where these people think these dogs are going to go and get new homes. Don't they realize that a hurricane went through the area, NOBODY has a home, and NOBODY is going to adopt them?

Should we spend a grand flying them to another state just to have them euthanized for a final $100 fee.
Bullets are cheap, and done properly, instant. Diseased dogs that have began forming packs are not ideal pets.

12 posted on 09/10/2005 11:38:03 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Keith in Iowa

>>>Let's start a petition to force world peace.

I'd rather sign a petition to banish vanity posts on FR... :)

LOL - good one. It might even have a chance.


13 posted on 09/10/2005 11:40:29 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: KingKongCobra

>>>Let's start a petition to force world peace.

I'd rather sign a petition to banish vanity posts on FR... :)

LOL - good one. It might even have a chance.

OTOH, look at all the fun Opus posts we'd miss.


14 posted on 09/10/2005 11:41:42 PM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: BagCamAddict

Signed.

And just ignore the torrent of tired predictables who are sure to wade into this thread telling you a)it's not breaking news, b)the animals aren't worth saving, c)there's nothing wrong with shooting them, and d)some variation of the above. They're guaranteed to show up.

It's not a zero-sum game; there are plenty of volunteers who'll work to save these animals, thereby detracting nothing from the volunteers working to save people.

MM


15 posted on 09/10/2005 11:43:41 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Behold now behemoth...he moves his tail like a cedar. Job 40:17)
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To: BagCamAddict

It is sad that these animals have to suffer and that they have been separated from their owners but in the big scheme of things saving those animals is a very low priority.


16 posted on 09/10/2005 11:44:04 PM PDT by Avenger
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To: BagCamAddict
If people couldn't get their pets out, it's a sad thing but at this point we're likely getting into dangers of rabies, pack animal behavior and regression to decidedly non-domesticated behaviors and that's just the people (kidding, sort of).

When the people left the pets behind, they left them for dead.

There is no shortage of replacement companion animals when people return to the area.

17 posted on 09/10/2005 11:48:25 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA Freepers, HELP Enforce Our Border: http://www.CaliforniaBorderPolice.com/)
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To: MississippiMan
"there are plenty of volunteers who'll work to save these animals, thereby detracting nothing from the volunteers working to save people."

Really? Where are they then? No ay should we pay a crew with a machine that costs 18 million dollars, thjousands an hour to run and maintain, be flying dogs and cats out, only to pile them up and euthanize them anyways.

Bullets are NOT cruel. If you want to save one, by all means, go and get one then, pay the vet fees that will be required, take it home and feel good about yourself.

18 posted on 09/10/2005 11:49:36 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Many of the dogs were used for protection by their owners. They were trained to only be controlled by their owners. These dogs are totally unapproachable, even if you wanted to just rescue them.


19 posted on 09/10/2005 11:49:44 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: Elyse

They are a huge danger to rescue workers. But, whenever all these volunteers that are willing to rescue these animals and care for them arrive, (must have had a flat tire along the way or something) they are welcome to try save that starving pittbull, shepard or Rottie chained up in somebodies yard.


20 posted on 09/10/2005 11:57:53 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DakotaRed

Thanks for sharing this. I am going to look into vaccines.


21 posted on 09/11/2005 12:00:24 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: MississippiMan
"It's not a zero-sum game; there are plenty of volunteers who'll work to save these animals, thereby detracting nothing from the volunteers working to save people."

It is a distraction if rescue workers and cleanup crews are having to contend with packs of aggressive and possibly disease ridden dogs. There's no way volunteers are going to get in there and immediately remove those dogs, and the rescue workers and cleanup crews that are there right now shouldn't have to deal with the fear of getting attacked by dogs and possibly getting rabies, etc. while waiting for volunteers to catch and remove all those animals.
22 posted on 09/11/2005 12:00:34 AM PDT by Avenger
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To: BagCamAddict


23 posted on 09/11/2005 12:04:57 AM PDT by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Avenger
As it is, they'll never catch all the cats that have gone wild. NO will have a feral cat problem for years to come now. And cats a bad disease carriers.
24 posted on 09/11/2005 12:05:09 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ChadGore; KingKongCobra; Keith in Iowa; Nathan Zachary; Avenger; newzjunkey

My priorities are in order, thank you. And didn't your mother teach you that if you don't have anything nice to say, then don't say anything at all? If you don't like this thread, then stay off of it. SOME of us DO care about animals.

For people who have lost EVERYTHING, their pet may be all they have left, and their only source of comfort. To force them to abandon their pet after all the trauma they have gone through is additional unnecessary cruelty.

I would never leave my dog behind, but apparently most people who left their pets thought they would be back home in 2 days at the most. So they didn't "leave them for dead," they left them because hotels and shelters wouldn't take pets.

There wouldn't be so many dogs and cats in shelters in this country if so many people didn't think they were disposable!!


25 posted on 09/11/2005 12:09:56 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Prayers for the victims of Katrina)
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To: Nathan Zachary; ChadGore; KingKongCobra; Keith in Iowa; Avenger; newzjunkey

Homes are being volunteered in every state in this country to house these animal victims of Katrina, just like there are homes being volunteered to house the human victims. In Oregon alone, there are over 3000 foster homes registered to take Katrina pets.

And one other thing: Many HUMANS needed rescuing in the first place because they couldn't find hotels or shelters that would accept their pets when they wanted to evacuate. If hotels and shelters had allowed pets, the HUMAN rescue effort wouldn't have been so HUGE. I'm sure many humans died because they stayed behind because of their pets. Additionally, I'm sure some humans died because valuable rescue resources were spread too thin. Perhaps the 36 people from the nursing home could have been rescued if so much time wasn't spent rescuing humans who stayed behind to stay with their pets.


26 posted on 09/11/2005 12:12:46 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Prayers for the victims of Katrina)
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To: BagCamAddict; MississippiMan

Animals that are not with their people are no longer pets...they need to be culled.

Declaring "it isn't a zero-sum game" doesn't make it so. If there are rescue workers in the AO looking for abandoned pets their efforts are misplaced.


27 posted on 09/11/2005 12:13:22 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: BagCamAddict
We donated to the Louisiana SPCA, who are running around like mad right now trying to rescue the animals who were left behind and then reunite them with their humans. I am not sure that it is fair to ask government authorities to deflect time and resources from helping humans right now, but I don't see why we can't encourage private agencies such as the LA-SPCA to do all they can to help the animals. Here is a link to their site, where you can make a donation by PayPal: http://www.la-spca.org/
28 posted on 09/11/2005 12:14:48 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: BagCamAddict; HairOfTheDog

HOTD...can you put this on the Doggie Ping List?

[and thanks for the link BCA]...:)


29 posted on 09/11/2005 12:16:27 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: BagCamAddict

Now how much of your rationale is conjecture?

Citing 3000 homes in OREGON is fatuous. What kind of resources need to be expended to get 3000 LETTERS to Oregon from Louisiana?


30 posted on 09/11/2005 12:18:36 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: MississippiMan

For up to date info, check out BestFriends.org under special report. There are two threads like ours detailing what is going on in the parishes and phone numbers to call. BestFriends has it's own boats and has been rescuing pets for several days. They have been on Fox News-Neil Cavuto and Hannity & Colmes. They, along with many other groups have rounded up many pets.

Now, the problem is the LA state vet won't let the trucks and vans filled with pets go to the shelter in Gonzales because it is full AND won't allow the animals in that shelter go on to others waiting to accept them because of a 15 day quarantine law. There have been many phone calls to the Gov. office to cut the red tape and allow these pets to move to neighboring states who have shelters at the ready. They have received thousands of phone calls. BestFriends is also being contacted by evacuees with their addresses to ask them to rescue pets left behind.

Gen. Honoree has a number that can be called. This gentleman is assuring people that the military does not kill animals and that they are leaving food and water. From what others have been told, they might be cutting off all private rescues and only allowing state or military animal rescue. This is probably due to the water toxicity.

If you go to the BestFriends site, you can read the posts and the see all the conflicting information. Typical of what we've seen, nobody's quite sure of what they can do. On one hand, there was a huge appeal for flat bottomed boats by several national rescue groups. I don't know whether they will be allowed in anymore. I'm sure there is a concern for liability and disease.

Sorry for the long post. Can't seem to get that picture of the little boy having to leave his dog Snowball on the highway overpass and crying so hard he vomited. I guess we still don't know if the dog was rescued, but that child has and will have so much heartache to go through, it's just a shame his best friend couldn't be there to ease some of it.


31 posted on 09/11/2005 12:27:43 AM PDT by Bubbette
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To: papertyger

You greatly underestimate the convictions of those who foster abused and abandoned animals.

Several months ago 21 Ibizan Hounds were taken from horrible conditions in NE.
Within weeks, these rare and difficult to place dogs all had either loving foster homes or permanent homes.

Most of the dogs were "problem dogs" due to the mistreatment and neglect they'd suffered.

Not a single foster care provider griped or gave up on them.

The dogs went to every region in the US, all of it paid by those who rescued and fostered/adopted them.

Kipling warned us not to underestimate the power of the dog.

Starving dogs will revert from their temporary "pack behavior" once fed.

The few exceptions to the problem may be the "trained" pit breeds.
Those dogs were doomed for life by their owners right from the start.


32 posted on 09/11/2005 12:27:50 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: BagCamAddict

"If you don't like this thread, then stay off of it."

Sorry. No can do. When someone is wrong and advocates a costly and dangerous position, I feel obliged to inform them that they are misguided. Resources wasted on these now feral animals could be put to better use.


33 posted on 09/11/2005 12:27:55 AM PDT by KingKongCobra
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To: Bubbette

http://www.noahswish.org/Hurricane%20Katrina.htm


34 posted on 09/11/2005 12:30:20 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Salamander
You greatly underestimate the convictions of those who foster abused and abandoned animals.

It's not their convictions I'm underestimating...

36 posted on 09/11/2005 12:34:09 AM PDT by papertyger
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To: BagCamAddict

Thank you for the link. I have signed the petition. Just ignore the comments of the ‘shoot’em all’ crowd above. I grew up on a ranch and stood by when my father was forced to shoot farm animals that had been badly injured. My father was as tough as they come and an avid hunter, but it bothered him a great deal to kill an animal raise to trust humans. There is no sport in it.

I always prayed that I would never be called upon to shoot of an animal in my care, and that I would be strong enough to do so if the need arose.

I believe that you rescue humans before animals. However, in N.O., it is not, at this time, an either/or choice. Nearly all the humans have been rescued and door to door searches are being conducted by those trained to do that job.

So what is wrong with allowing animal rescuers to pick up the animals left behind? Nothing, IMO. And it is not like it is being done at taxpayer expense.


38 posted on 09/11/2005 12:35:20 AM PDT by goldfinch
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To: papertyger
Conjecture? Which part? I personally know people who did not evacuate because they couldn't find hotels that would allow their pets.**

There are dozens and dozens of postings on petfinder by people who said the same thing. Then they needed to be rescued by helicopter. They were not allowed to take their pets with them.

If they had not been there in the first place, then the time spent rescuing them could have been spent rescuing someone else - perhaps someone infirm. That's not conjecture, that's fact. The only conjecture is that some people may have died because valuable rescue resources were spent rescuing healthy, able-bodied people who stayed behind BECAUSE of their pets. But it is not conjecture that some people died when they stayed behind due to their pets.

**(In my opinion, they should have taken their pets with them and slept in their cars if necessary, since they expected it would be 2 days at the most. But that's a separate topic altogether.)

39 posted on 09/11/2005 12:35:23 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Prayers for the victims of Katrina)
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To: papertyger

And they're ALL paying to do it out of their OWN pockets, risking their own lives and wasting their own time so what's it to you?



40 posted on 09/11/2005 12:36:40 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: goldfinch

We got us a whole bunch of "compassionate conservatives" burning the midnight oil tonight, don't we?...;)


42 posted on 09/11/2005 12:38:33 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: Salamander

One or two dogs is a whole lot different than the entire population of a CITY and STATE.
Every shelter in every state is full. Most of them will end up euthanized. Have you ever tried putting a scared, unfamiliar dog into a helecopter with no doors? guess what happens when it bites the soldier and he lets go of it at a few hundred feet above the ground.


43 posted on 09/11/2005 12:39:22 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: benjaminjjones
Every pet nut I'm ever met is just a pussie.

The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.

44 posted on 09/11/2005 12:41:08 AM PDT by Black Tooth (The more people I meet, the more I like my dog.)
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To: papertyger

Yet another gutless keyboard gunslinger.


45 posted on 09/11/2005 12:41:54 AM PDT by Salamander (There's nothing that "MORE COWBELL!" can't fix.......)
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To: benjaminjjones
The animal rescue boats followed behind the 82nd airborne. Then they searched a house, they rescued the people and any animals were picked up by the privately funded rescue groups. Or the soldiers would make note of animals and radio the info back to animal rescue boats.

I have not heard that they are saving pets before trying to recover dead human bodies. As they grid search, they are aiding and rescuing whatever they can find in that godforsaken place.
46 posted on 09/11/2005 12:42:04 AM PDT by Bubbette
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To: Salamander
I'll pay you $50 to say that to my husband's face.

Given the choice, would your husband save you or your children before he saved your pet?

That's what I meant by pet nut.

I've loved my pets and have cried over them when I burried them. But they're just not worth a human's life.

I'll take you bet, but you might have to wait 'til next month when I collect some more client's checks and my collarbone has fully fused.

47 posted on 09/11/2005 12:42:16 AM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: BagCamAddict

Thank you for the link to the petition. And please ignore all of these defeatist naysayers. We Americans are quite capable of saving the people AND the animals. It's the humane and right thing to do.


48 posted on 09/11/2005 12:43:43 AM PDT by djreece ("... Until He leads justice to victory." Matt. 12:20c)
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To: BagCamAddict

Jefferson County is killing them, not New Orleans. Those pets have already been eaten.


49 posted on 09/11/2005 12:44:55 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: papertyger
Citing 3000 homes in OREGON is fatuous. What kind of resources need to be expended to get 3000 LETTERS to Oregon from Louisiana?

No it's not. The point is there is enough money, enough resources, enough homes, enough love to go around.

And part of my point was that if the pets had been allowed to be evacuated in the first place with the humans (and if hotels and shelters had allowed pets), then the HUMAN rescue effort NOW wouldn't be nearly as great, and the human losses wouldn't be as great. People chose not to evacuate because they loved their pets so much that they wouldn't leave them. As a result, the HUMAN rescue job was bigger than it needed to be, which cost more money than it needed to cost, and more people died than needed to die.

You think it doesn't take money to clean up all the dead animals that will be left in another week or two? If they could have been evacuated in the first place, we wouldn't have all the "dangers" and expenses we are going to have due to "packs of wild dogs" and "feral cats" and "rabies" (overblown myth) and rotting animals, etc.

50 posted on 09/11/2005 12:45:02 AM PDT by BagCamAddict (Prayers for the victims of Katrina)
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